

164 How to be a Legendary Creator/Writer: Sachit Gupta & Christopher Lochhead Unpack #1 Bestseller Snow Leopard
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Realization about Monetization
- Christopher Lochhead consulted with Sachit Gupta about podcast monetization.
- This led to a realization about prioritizing meaningful contributions over direct monetization.
Monetization through Value
- Focus on quality content to build an audience organically, rather than chasing short-term viral trends.
- Prioritize creating value and trust over shallow engagement.
Content Pyramid
- Understand the Content Pyramid: consumption, curation, obvious connection, non-obvious connection, and category of one.
- Strive to create a category of one by combining these elements to offer unique value.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
The Creators NBA Podcast
02:08 • 5min
The Content Matrix
07:14 • 3min
The Consistency Pyramid
09:50 • 3min
The Third Level: Obvious Connection
12:30 • 2min
The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck
14:57 • 4min
The Unlock of the Content Pyramid
18:58 • 3min
Category Pirates - What Makes a Hit Record and What Doesn't
21:43 • 2min
Do I Want to Make a Giant Difference? Or Do You Want Followers?
23:21 • 3min
I Want to Make a Difference, but I Want to Make a Difference
26:26 • 2min
The Ultimate Question for Every Creator Market or Entrepreneur
28:10 • 2min
The New Way to Think
29:49 • 4min
Is Your Point of View for Creators?
34:11 • 3min
What Is Category First, Brand Second?
37:01 • 3min
The Category King of Tipping Point
39:55 • 2min
What Are the Four Circles?
41:36 • 3min
What Is Agency?
44:29 • 2min
Make a Living From Your Art Without Selling Your Soul
46:50 • 4min
The Big Brand Lies, the Big Product Lies and the Big Creator Lies
50:45 • 3min
Nonfiction Business Books - Why Did You Give This Away?
53:21 • 3min
What Kim Kardashian Does in Front of Lamborghinis Is Creating Enemies
55:55 • 2min
Instead of Monetizing Enemy, Monetize Insight
58:13 • 1min
The Difference Between Native Digital and Native Analogs
59:33 • 5min
Are You a Native Digital Entrepreneur?
01:04:58 • 2min
Is There a New Category of Human?
01:07:28 • 2min
What I Learned From Sotchit, the Creators MBA
01:09:51 • 4min
Snow Leopard - How to Tell Someone's a Snow Leopard
01:13:22 • 4min
Category Design Is the Biggest Superpower in Business
01:17:11 • 2min
The Power of Being a Vegan
01:19:12 • 4min
What's Your Favorite Category Designer?
01:23:29 • 5min
What Does It Mean to Be a Conscious Creator?
01:28:18 • 4min
Podcasting Is the Only Medium Where It Can Happen
01:32:45 • 2min
The Political Debate, Podcasting, and Snow Leopard
01:34:54 • 3min
Recently, I was a guest with the legendary Sachit Gupta on his fantastic podcast called Conscious Creators, which I highly recommend. During our conversation on his podcast, we unpack Category Pirates’ most recent book Snow Leopard. Our producer Jason DeFilippo heard this podcast and thought it'd be a great idea to drop it here for you.
What you're about to hear is me and Satya go deep on what it takes to be a successful native digital creator slash writer.
Welcome to Lochhead on Marketing. The number one charting marketing podcast for marketers, category designers, and entrepreneurs with a different mind.
The Reason for Podcasting
The conversation starts off with a discussion of how the two first met, and it was through the legendary podcaster Jordan Harbinger. Christopher was looking into getting sponsors and thinking about was to monetize his podcast, and was recommended to Sachit Gupta this way.
While he did get ideas on different styles of monetization, the biggest thing that Christopher got out of the conversation was the realization that monetization was not his primary focus on doing podcasts.
“I sort of had this aha that said, “Hey, wait a minute, dude, this was actually never about money”. And if I want to make money, I know how to go do that. So you sort of set my head straight, and that the emphasis was on the wrong syllable that if I wanted to make money, I knew how to go make money in a way that was much more exponential than being essentially an ad salesperson.
The real gift you gave me around podcasting, was that I’m not doing this to monetize.”
– Christopher Lochhead
Sachit Gupta on Monetizing Directly vs Indirectly
One of the things that Sachit wanted to share was that one doesn’t have to monetize directly. Focus on making good content first and foremost, so that you can reach out and cultivate an audience naturally, rather than going for cookie-cutter approaches for a short-term viral status.
“Here's what I see happening in this greater world right now: there's a stat that I think like 75% of youngsters want to be YouTubers, and the path most of them see in front of them is go on YouTube or something else and create content that's for the extremes, because that's what spreads. And then once you chase views and get to a certain level of audience, you can monetize in some way, right. And if you don't become big, you can't monetize. In your book, you call like the obvious content, which is not really the stuff that's useful.”
– Sachit Gupta
While there is merit to uploading consistent content, you don’t have to flood your audience with bit-sized content that is just a big nothing burger. Creating meaningful content, let’s say once every week or two is way better than just dropping portion-sized content that just adds to the collective brain-rot of society.
The Content Pyramid
The topic then shifts to the concept of the content pyramid, and what types of people thrive in each level.
Consumers, for example, are at base of the pyramid and consists of the largest section of it. In internet culture, there is something known as the 1% rule, which states that on social media platforms, 1% create while 99% consume.
Most people spend their entire lives being content consumers—not content creators. And that’s totally fine, so long as you understand you’re not “playing the game.” You’re sitting on the sidelines watching the game.
In order to “get in the game,” you must move out of consumption and up The Content Pyramid.
To hear more of the conversation between Sachit Gupta and Christopher Lochhead, download and listen to this episode.
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