
Owned and Operated - A Plumbing, Electrical, and HVAC Business Growth Podcast
The Owned and Operated electrical, HVAC, and plumbing business growth podcast is hosted by John Wilson and Jack Carr. These two Home Service Business owners bring you weekly podcasts and daily content with multiple perspectives, actionable advice, and info on an ever-changing industry revolving around advertising, lead generation, and more. Join us every Tuesday for topical conversations that unlock the potential for your business growth. Covering topics from top-tier talent recruitment to mastering marketing strategies and scaling your home service business, the podcast aims to be your guide on the path to entrepreneurial success.For more information, visit www.ownedandoperated.com.
Latest episodes

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Nov 12, 2024 • 41min
#151 - From Leads to Revenue: Maximizing Your Marketing ROI with Sam Preston
Sam Preston, CEO of Service Scalers, shares his expertise on maximizing marketing ROI for home service businesses. He discusses how to track lead sources effectively and the importance of a well-optimized website over a flashy one. Sam emphasizes the power of SEO and Google Ads in driving qualified leads, while revealing strategies that fueled his company’s explosive growth. He also covers measuring marketing performance, managing costs per lead, and adapting to Google's evolving landscape, ensuring businesses can scale efficiently.

Nov 5, 2024 • 59min
#150 - LEGENDS: From Bankruptcy to $75 Million with EcoPlumber and Aaron Gaynor
Aaron Gaynor, founder of Eco Plumbers, shares his incredible journey from bankruptcy to building a $75 million home service business. He stresses the importance of having a bold vision and focusing on one trade initially. The conversation dives into the critical role of customer reviews and social validation, as well as the value of strong vendor relationships. Gaynor also highlights the significance of mastering one service before expansion and discusses strategies for navigating competitive markets.

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Oct 29, 2024 • 1h 3min
#149 - Leadership Through Open Book Management with Ellen Rohr
Ellen Rohr, a plumbing entrepreneur and business consultant known for her roles at Zoom Drain and ServiceTitan, shares her journey from plumbing to business success. She delves into the transformative power of open book management and how financial transparency can elevate team morale. Ellen discusses strategic pricing and its role in overcoming debt, alongside practical advice for tracking financial metrics in the trades. Her insights on leadership and aligning personal and business goals are a must for anyone looking to thrive in service industries.

Oct 22, 2024 • 35min
#148 - Using Global Talent to Outpace Competition with Sagan's Jon Matzner
Jon Matzner, Founder of Sagan, discusses the revolutionary impact of global talent on business operations. He highlights how hiring overseas isn't just about cost savings but about enhancing efficiency and service delivery. The conversation dives into the evolution of Sagan’s system, emphasizing the interplay of remote work and automation. Matzner also explores the role of AI in business processes and strategies for optimizing workforce structures in the HVAC sector. His insights on decentralized leadership and innovative talent acquisition approaches are truly enlightening.

Oct 15, 2024 • 37min
#147 - From Customer to Owner: The Journey into Business Acquisition and Ownership
In this episode, Jack is flying solo and speaks with Rory Tyer, a new owner of an independent garden center in South Carolina, about his journey in entrepreneurship through acquisition. Rory shares his experiences and challenges in acquiring and operating a local nursery, discussing factors such as location, customer demographics, and the dynamics of retail vs. wholesale businesses. The conversation also touches on the significant learning curve, managing inventory, and engaging in new marketing strategies such as an SP club and local school partnerships. Thanks to Our Sponsor Supply House Need parts fast? Supply House Dot Com is fast, reliable, offers easy returns, and has a huge inventory of parts and supplies so that you're waiting less. Take a look at their TradeMaster program and start getting perks now!Episode Hosts: 🎤John Wilson: @WilsonCompanies on XJack Carr: @TheHVACJack on XEpisode Guest:Rory Tyer: @rorytyer on TwitterLearn more about Sagan Passport and what it can do for your business hiring needsSend Us Mail!More Ways To Connect with O&O John's YouTube Channel Weekly Newsletter Leave a Review John Wilson, CEO of Wilson CompaniesJack Carr, CEO of Rapid HVAC📌 Disclaimer:Some links may include UTM parameters for tracking. Episodes may feature paid sponsors, but all opinions are our own. Always do your own research before making business decisions.

Oct 8, 2024 • 60min
#146 -Peter Lohmann and Home Service Branding as Lead Generation
Explore the power of branding as a lead-generation tool in the home services industry. Hear about scaling challenges and insights that can unlock growth potential. Discover the importance of optimizing call centers and finding the right talent for specific problems. Learn how effective communication and innovative call management strategies are crucial during emergencies. Dive into measuring marketing effectiveness to boost brand visibility and ROI, ensuring sustainable lead flow and customer engagement.

Oct 1, 2024 • 59min
#145 - LEGENDS: Chris Hoffman and Home Service Financial Discipline at $100M and Up
Chris Hoffman, CEO of the $130M Hoffman Brothers, shares his remarkable journey of scaling a family business with John and Jack. He emphasizes the critical role of financial discipline and talent development for achieving sustainable growth. The conversation dives into managing competition, navigating high-growth challenges, and the importance of operational structure. Chris also reveals innovative strategies for handling diverse service areas and highlights the power of patience and simplicity in building a successful business.

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Sep 24, 2024 • 48min
#144 - Call Center Commission and Navigating HVAC Equipment Pricing
Join the conversation as industry experts dive into the evolving landscape of call centers and AI's impact on business efficiency. Discover innovative strategies for negotiating with vendors to boost profitability and gain insights on crafting effective compensation structures that motivate sales teams. The importance of networking and learning from peers is emphasized, along with adapting to market trends and seasonal shifts. Uncover tools like Hatch that streamline communication, helping home service businesses convert leads into loyal customers.

Sep 17, 2024 • 56min
#143 - Call-by-Call HVAC Growth Management with Service MVP Joe Crisara
Joe Crisara, Founder of Service MVP with 47 years in the trades, shares his journey from technician to entrepreneur. He dives into the power of call-by-call management and personalized customer service to boost business outcomes. Joe discusses leveraging technology like Hatch to enhance communication and engagement. He also emphasizes creative pricing strategies and building strong client relationships for significant growth. Tune in to discover how to transform your approach and become your own Service MVP!

Sep 10, 2024 • 49min
#142 - TR Miller's Brian Sloan and Scaling a Multi-Generational Business
In this episode of 'Owned and Operated,' John Wilson talks with owner Brian Sloan from TR Miller to discuss the nuances of business management and growth in HVAC and plumbing. What was the process for Brian of transitioning from a hands-on operator to a business owner mindset, learning the intricacies of multi-location management, and finding the importance of strategic partnerships? Brian shares his experiences with TR Miller’s growth trajectory, the lessons learned from slowdowns and operational challenges, and the significance of maintaining a balance between customer service, employee engagement, and financial performance. Learn more about Sagan Passport and what it can do for your home service business hiring needs:https://ownedandoperated.saganpassport.comEpisode Hosts: 🎤John Wilson: @TheWilsonCompanies on TwitterJack Carr: @TheHVACJack on TwitterEpisode Guest:Brian Sloan: @BSloan25 on TwitterLearn more about TR Miller HVAC and PlumbingService Scalers can help determine your PPC, SEO, and even LSA. Right now they’re running a special $99 digital marketing audit where they’ll take a look under the hood of your marketing, tell you what’s working, and where you can optimize. Schedule today!https://www.servicescalers.com/auditSend Us Mail!More Ways To Connect with O&O John's YouTube Channel Weekly Newsletter Leave a Review John Wilson, CEO of Wilson CompaniesJack Carr, CEO of Rapid HVAC📌 Disclaimer:Some links may include UTM parameters for tracking. Episodes may feature paid sponsors, but all opinions are our own. Always do your own research before making business decisions.