Jocko Podcast
332: Influence & Ownership Over Your Physiological & Psychological Being w/ Andrew Huberman
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Quick takeaways
- Exposure to sunlight in the morning can improve mood, enhance sleep, and regulate melatonin.
- Cold exposure triggers the release of adrenaline and dopamine, improving mood and resilience.
- Non-sleep deep rest techniques like yoga nidra can promote relaxation and aid in falling back asleep.
- Understanding the balance between sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems is crucial for overall health.
- Managing dopamine release can help in managing motivation and avoiding addictive behaviors.
- Developing attention skills and detaching from chaos can improve decision-making and problem-solving.
Deep dives
Turning Point and New Direction
After a period of aimlessness, getting into fights, and experiencing low academic performance, the speaker decides to take a new direction in life. He takes a leave of absence from UC Santa Barbara, moves home, and enrolls in community college. He starts studying and working on self-improvement, focusing on weightlifting and training in Muay Thai. He realizes the need to make a change and takes his education seriously.
Discovering a Passion for Neuroscience
While at community college, the speaker develops a passion for neuroscience through his studies in psychology and biology. He becomes fascinated by the workings of the brain, neurotransmitters, and the effects of drugs on the brain. He becomes involved with a laboratory and is mentored by an influential figure who encourages him to pursue graduate school in neuroscience.
Achieving Academic Success and Personal Growth
With a newfound dedication to his studies and research, the speaker transforms from a CD student to a straight-A student. He completes his undergraduate degree with honors and goes on to pursue a PhD and postdoctoral training in neuroscience at Berkeley and Stanford, respectively. Through hard work, discipline, and focusing on his passion, he charts a new course for his life, leaving behind his reckless past and embracing personal growth and academic success.
Importance of getting sunlight in the morning
Getting sunlight in the morning triggers the release of cortisol and dopamine, increasing core body temperature and enhancing mood. It also helps entrain circadian rhythms for better sleep and regulates the release of melatonin.
Benefits of cold exposure and ice baths
Cold exposure, such as ice baths, triggers the release of adrenaline and dopamine, improving mood and providing a summer-like effect in the body. It also helps build resilience and can improve sleep.
Non-sleep deep rest techniques
Non-sleep deep rest techniques, such as yoga nidra or hypnosis, can help calm the nervous system and promote relaxation. These techniques are beneficial for falling back asleep during the night and downregulating the body's activation levels.
Understanding the Autonomic Nervous System
The autonomic nervous system consists of two systems: the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic system is associated with the fight-or-flight response, while the parasympathetic system is the rest and digest system. The balance between these two systems is crucial for a healthy functioning body. Going into the sun without sunscreen is dangerous due to the activation of the sympathetic system.
The Role of Dopamine in Pleasure and Motivation
Dopamine is a neurotransmitter that plays a significant role in pleasure and motivation. It is responsible for creating feelings of reward and desire in response to certain stimuli. Dopamine is not only released in anticipation of a reward, but also in response to the reward itself. Understanding the role of dopamine can help in managing motivation, avoiding excessive dopamine release, and finding a balance between effort and pleasure.
The Impact of Random Intermittent Reinforcement
Random intermittent reinforcement is a powerful reinforcement schedule that affects behavior in all species. This schedule, seen in activities like gambling, social media use, and video games, provides sporadic and unpredictable rewards. The anticipation of these rewards releases dopamine, creating a cycle of seeking and reward. However, too much unearned pleasure can be detrimental and lead to addictive behaviors and a lack of effort. Finding a balance between effort and pleasure is essential for well-being and personal growth.
Managing attention and spinning plates
When confronted with chaotic situations or problems, it's important to manage attention and avoid getting stuck on a single task. Instead, run different oodle loops, observing, orienting, deciding, and acting, in real time. This involves toggling between different attentional circuits and considering factors like time, motivation, priorities, and mission alignment. By learning to detach from the chaos and take a step back, one can see the bigger picture and make more effective decisions. Building focus and attention skills through practices like writing in complete sentences can also strengthen cognitive abilities and help navigate complex situations.
Harnessing limbic friction and effort
Limbic friction, the tension between the more primitive limbic system and the rational prefrontal cortex, is a natural part of human physiology. Rather than seeking to eliminate effort or discomfort, it is more beneficial to embrace them as opportunities for growth. Effort followed by reward is a key pattern for motivation and self-improvement. Building systems and routines that require deliberate efforts, like exercise or overcoming distractions, can help reinforce motivation. Deep relaxation, non-sleep deep rest, and good sleep replenish dopamine levels in the brain and support effective attention and decision-making.
Awareness, problem-solving, and detachment
Developing awareness and detachment are essential in problem-solving and decision-making. Detaching from emotions and biases can provide a clearer perspective and lead to more effective solutions. Techniques like writing down the problem and potential solutions can help detach from the immediate situation and see it from a new angle. By understanding that solutions are not inherently in the problem itself, individuals can focus on stepping back, observing, orienting, deciding, and acting to find innovative solutions. Training attention through tasks like writing in complete sentences strengthens cognitive abilities and attentional control.
Preparing for Sleep
To get ready for sleep, it is recommended to view some sunlight in the afternoon to adjust your retinal sensitivity. Dim the lights in the evening to signal your body that it's time to wind down. Try not to eat a big meal within two hours of bedtime. Stay hydrated, but avoid drinking a lot of fluids before bed. Create a dark sleep environment by keeping ambient lights to a minimum. If you wake up in the middle of the night, avoid looking at bright lights or screens. Consider using an app like Reverie for deep rest or listen to a sleep-focused hypnosis script. Some supplements that may aid in sleep include magnesium3 and 8 or magnesium bisglycinate, apigenin, and theanine. Inositol is another supplement that can promote sleep, but individual responses may vary.
Optimizing Sleep Timing
Finding the optimal bedtime that aligns with your natural sleep patterns is key. It's important to respect the innate alertness period that occurs approximately an hour before your usual bedtime. During this time, dim the lights, avoid bright screens, and engage in relaxing activities. Adjust your bedtime earlier if you tend to wake up in the middle of the night and struggle to fall back asleep. Experiment with different bedtimes to find the one that suits you best.
Supplement Options
Supplements like magnesium3 and 8, theanine, and inositol can aid in sleep. Taking magnesium3 and 8 or magnesium bisglycinate 30 to 60 minutes before bed can help speed up sleep onset and improve sleep quality. Theanine can provide relaxation and promote vivid dreams. Inositol, particularly myo inositol, is known for reducing anxiety and can be beneficial for those on a low carbohydrate diet. Personal experiences with supplements may vary, so it's important to find the one that works best for you.
Importance of Behavior and Supplements in Mental Health
It is important to prioritize positive behaviors, such as maintaining a healthy lifestyle and implementing effective coping mechanisms, to support mental well-being. Supplements, if necessary, should be considered as an additional support. The goal is to rely on as few prescriptions of any kind as possible by focusing on the right behaviors, avoiding harmful ones, and ensuring a balanced diet and supplement intake. This holistic approach helps reduce the need for excessive psychoactive medications, making use of them only in cases of vital importance such as severe depression or ADHD. The emphasis should be on seeking talk therapy, refining lifestyle choices, and creating a supportive and self-regulating environment.
Navigating Academic Pressure and Personal Growth
Young individuals often face intense academic pressure and high expectations, which can have a negative impact on mental health. Factors such as academic performance, demanding study sessions, and social pressure can contribute to increased stress and anxiety. It is crucial to create a balanced approach, allowing for breaks, time with friends, and self-care rituals. Developing the ability to self-regulate in both high-intensity and low-intensity situations helps individuals recognize when they are drifting off course and when they are on the right track. It is important for young people to understand that academic success does not define their worth, and that with time and effort, they can still achieve their goals and find their path in life.
Andrew Huberman, Ph.D., is a neuroscientist and tenured Professor in the Department of Neurobiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine. He has made numerous significant contributions to the fields of brain development, brain function and neural plasticity, which is the ability of our nervous system to rewire and learn new behaviors, skills and cognitive functioning.
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