

Jocko Podcast
Jocko DEFCOR Network
Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.
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Jan 12, 2026 • 13min
Jocko Underground: How To End Drama When You're Caught In The Middle.
Discover strategies to handle family drama, including how to stop in-laws from creating tensions. Learn about the 'gray rocking' technique to defuse drama and rein in attention-seeking behavior. Jocko encourages role-playing to practice boundary-setting responses. The duo advises on creating necessary distance from manipulative relatives and emphasizes consistency in maintaining boundaries. Plus, explore ways to get out of life’s slumps while dealing with feelings of inadequacy when comparing yourself to others.

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Jan 7, 2026 • 1h 46min
522: How Discipline and Leadership Will Make You Survive 40 Months as a POW.
Discover the remarkable wartime leadership of Air Commodore Leonard Burchill, who unified fellow POWs in the brutal conditions of WWII. Explore the essence of true leadership versus mere management, emphasizing integrity and trust. Learn how discipline, humility, and character shape effective leaders, even in dire situations. Burchill's experiences reveal the importance of shared hardship and camaraderie for survival. Finally, gain insights on applying these powerful lessons to enhance your personal and professional discipline.

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Jan 5, 2026 • 12min
Jocko Underground: Teamwork (Cover and Move) Does NOT Always Work.
The discussion dives into when traditional teamwork approaches can backfire, highlighting the dangers of overprotecting teammates. Jocko emphasizes the need for direct communication, offering strategies for addressing poor behavior in a team setting. They also explore the balance of allowing individuals to face the consequences of their actions while weighing their overall impact on the team. Household dynamics, like sharing chores, make for a relatable tangent, adding humor to the serious topic. Insights on personal challenges in career paths round out the conversation.

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Dec 31, 2025 • 1h 22min
521: Obey Your Own Orders. Discipline vs. the War in Your Head
Explore the intense struggle of discipline in daily life versus battlefield actions. Jocko and Echo discuss how small choices, like what we eat or how we spend our time, can accumulate into significant outcomes. They emphasize the importance of obeying your own orders and the psychological warfare we face. Through lessons from the military, they highlight that discipline isn't just punishment; it's a lifestyle that fosters long-term goals and personal freedom. Tune in for actionable tips to turn resistance into resilience!

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Dec 29, 2025 • 11min
Jocko Underground: Obsessing Over Your Spouses Past
The discussion delves into the pitfalls of obsessing over a partner's past, emphasizing the importance of focusing on the present and future. Jocko connects financial and custody stress to obsessive behaviors, advocating for confidence over insecurity. He encourages faking calmness as a tool to build genuine confidence, and highlights the necessity of making conscious choices to shape desired outcomes in relationships. Echo stresses the importance of self-discipline, especially in blended families, to navigate life's challenges.

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Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 2min
520: You Don't Get One More Minute. Time To Reset.
Join Jocko as he recounts his daughter Rana's intense BJJ match, where her desire for 'one more minute' inspires deep reflections on the importance of time. He emphasizes that wasted time is irreversible, urging a year-end audit to reassess priorities. Discover practical habits for a Discipline Equals Freedom (DEAF) Reset, including waking early, hydrating, and gratitude practices. Jocko highlights managing time like a precious resource, sharing tips to avoid cascading problems from deferred tasks. Remember, the clock won't wait!

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Dec 17, 2025 • 2h 26min
519: A Soldier’s Pain, Purpose, and the Brotherhood That Endures. Crazy Joe Claburn Pt.2
Crazy Joe Claiborne, a retired U.S. Army officer and combat veteran, shares his extraordinary journey from a catastrophic parachute injury to overcoming immense odds. He discusses the power of recovery, the importance of fatherhood, and the lasting bonds of brotherhood among soldiers. Joe reflects on the heart-wrenching loss of his friend, Seth Stone, and emphasizes the duty to honor fallen warriors. Now a teacher and advocate for veterans, he inspires with his insights on resilience, leadership, and finding purpose beyond military service.

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Dec 10, 2025 • 4h 7min
518: Six Days in Hell, And Why That Was Just Normal. With Army Ranger Crazy Joe Claburn
Retired U.S. Army officer Joe Claiborne, known as "Crazy Joe," shares his harrowing experiences leading the 'Gunfighters' in Ramadi during intense combat. He reveals how he transformed Charlie Company into a formidable fighting force amid daily firefights and ambushes. Joe discusses the challenges of operating under constant threat, the importance of tactical psychology, and the emotional toll on soldiers. He reflects on casualties, command accountability, and the lasting legacy of their sacrifices in Iraq. It's a gripping dive into frontline leadership and the realities of war.

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Dec 8, 2025 • 6min
Jocko Underground: You Gotta Be A Man. They Are WATCHING.
Explore how to become the role model your kids need, emphasizing actions over words. Discover strategies to toughen your children through healthy challenges and trauma. Learn practical reasons for improving physical and mental strength to fulfill responsibilities as a provider and protector. Jocko also dives into the nuances of leveraging nepotism effectively within groups. It's a rallying call for men to step up and lead by example in all aspects of life.

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Dec 3, 2025 • 3h 27min
517: Put Your Legs On. Zero Excuses. The Relentless Journey Rob Jones
Rob Jones, a retired Marine and double amputee, shares his incredible journey from injury to endurance athlete. He opens up about the ‘inner terrorist’ that challenged him post-injury and the powerful mindset shifts that helped him recover. Jones discusses his accomplishments in adaptive cycling and rowing, including his experience at the 2012 Paralympics. He emphasizes the importance of camaraderie, perseverance, and having role models. With his mantra of 'Put Your Legs On,' he inspires listeners to find purpose and overcome adversity.


