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Jun 4, 2024 • 1h 36min

209. Love With Limits, Spring Energy's False Nutrition Labels, Kilian's Unmatched Dominance, Running Club Romance, and The Future is Female Coaches!

We were emotionally hardened by some sleepless nights before recording this special episode! A couple months ago, a brilliant podcast listener on Reddit published her predictions that Spring Energy's Awesomesauce gel had incorrect calorie counts. Three weeks ago, those findings were confirmed by a German lab. This past week, everything exploded on social media with all of Spring's gels listing fraudulent calorie totals, roping us into a situation that we never hope to relive. This episode talks about our emotions. We are furious about the mislabeling. We wish we could go back in time and tell ourselves that nutrition labels can list fraudulent calorie totals, and we wish we could undo the health and performance struggles that so many runners have felt due to the egregious mislabeling. We are sorry for our connections to Spring years ago, and we love you all. At the same time, love has limits. This past week pushed us to our emotional edge. It demonstrated some of the problems with social media and a society that can chase clout and clicks over kindness and nuanced facts. Podcast listeners got us through, and we are emerging with more compassion, more courage, and fewer f's to give. As Megan wrote, "Love to you all, especially to any woman who has dealt with a small man: may you become larger in who you authentically are." And we threw in a bunch of fun topics! Other topics: reflections from sleepless nights, Pride Month joy, lessons from some of the highest energy expenditures ever studied, women in coaching, Unbound Cycling and the success of multisport athletes in bike races, Kilian's legendary dominance at Zegama, a study on CBD in runners, running club romantic connections, our love of Park Runs, and hot takes. We finish with some Listener Corner messages that kept us going in a really hard time. We love you all! Yes, ALL. The world can be dark and scary, especially on social media, and we hope that we can help fill your lives with as much light and as many calories as possible. PSA: empty your septic tanks and don't let the stank affect who you are. HUZZAH!!! Click "Claim Reward" for $80 at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Find Thorne Iron at The Feed: https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/iron-bisglycinate Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com/ (code "SWAP")
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May 28, 2024 • 1h 35min

208. Gel Controversy Grows, Courtney's Nutrition Strategy, Fueling Case Studies, World Record 10k, Trash Talking on the Track, and A Meaning of Life!

Professional ultra-runner, Courtney Dauwalter, shares her race-day nutrition strategy of consuming only 200 calories per hour. The podcast also delves into metabolic variance, misleading nutrition labels, case studies on race-day fueling, and the 10k world record. Other topics include trash talk in track, sodium bicarbonate usage, and the meaning of life.
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May 21, 2024 • 1h 35min

207. Core Strength, Controversy in a Gel's Calorie Total, Track Coaching Takeaways, Ketones and Hormones, Big Hope, and Coaching AI!

Topics include core strength in track athletes, controversy over gel carb count, hope for the future, ketones' effect on hormones, AI coaching in Strava, and raising the roof in training. A wild journey with sound effects and hot takes!
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May 14, 2024 • 1h 32min

206. Doing Hard Things, Longevity and Training, Fueling Short Workouts, The Power of Placebo, AI Bots, and Cocodona 250!

In this podcast, they discuss the benefits of hard training for longevity, vulnerability in tough times, and interesting topics like AI bots changing human interaction. Also, they talk about fueling workouts, placebo effects, multi-day ultras, and poetry readings. Stick around for Conan O'Brien's comedy and spontaneous poetry!
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May 7, 2024 • 1h 34min

205. The Mystery of Training Non-Response, Strength Work Approaches, Health Metrics, New Bike Day, and Track Going Mainstream!

Discussion on training response variability among athletes, leveraging health metrics data for recovery and pregnancy detection, new bike excitement, skepticism around AI, running economy studies, strength training benefits, a new track league, impacts of questionnaire response rates on study outcomes, and a mix of creatine, caffeine, and sodium bicarbonate for performance enhancement.
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Apr 30, 2024 • 1h 30min

204. Canyons 100k Breakthroughs, Why Megan Didn't Race, Carb-Loading Thoughts, Bloodwork Season, TikTok Ban, and Big Surprises!

We got the surprise of our lives before recording this dazed-and-excited episode! The main topic was the Canyons 100k. It was Megan's dream race, and you may have seen... she did not start. We had some incredibly surprising news right before we boarded our flight to California for the race, and we process it in real-time on the episode. Hopefully the discussion and Megan's openness helps you deal with whatever big surprises you face in life! Even though Megan didn't race, we cheered and crewed as ultra history was made at the race! This year's Canyons 100k had a performance for the ages from Katie Schide, plus a breakthrough from Rod Farvard, a selfless act from Drew Holmen, and so much more. We break down the dynamics, full of joy from seeing it all live! The big discussions revolve around training theory, fueling approaches, how cooling mattered even in temperate conditions, our complex thoughts on carb loading, hydration needs, and inspiration from the back of the pack. And we brought a giddy, delirious energy to some awesome topics! Other topics: why we were so surprised by the big news, how Megan feels about it all, societal expectations in early pregnancy, Allie Ostrander's wonderful reflections on crying after races, continuous lactate monitors, the 776 Invitational's huge investment in women's track and what it might mean for the future of the sport, why it's bloodwork season and what people should test, the new ruling making non-competes unenforceable and how it's relevant for endurance sports, the TikTok ban, and hot takes. Life comes at you fast. Maybe that's why we podcast fast! Knowing you all are along for the journey means so much to us. Into the great unknown we go! HUZZAH! Click "Claim Reward" for $80 at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Subscribe to AllieO's channel: youtube.com/@allie_ostrander Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
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Apr 23, 2024 • 1h 33min

203. Canyons 100k Pre-Race, Improving Power, Perils of Energy Availability Cycling, Wild Shoe Tech, and Crash Recovery!

We sipped on some of the finest, chalkiest electrolyte drink for this great episode! The main topic was gearing up for big events, spurred by Megan's upcoming adventure at the Canyons 100k. After the health issues, we were unsure whether we'd ever be able to have this sort of discussion on the podcast, and listeners have been there every step of the way. If there is any test, it's in training. Racing is a celebration. This episode celebrates the broken road to get to the race-day party! This one was also packed with fun science! The main study helped debunk energy availability cycling, where athletes intentionally reduce energy availability in an attempt to improve power-to-weight ratio. Running is a power sport, and it's all about improving that power! And we had tons of our favorite topics to discuss! Other topics: getting used to on-course nutrition options, the emotional process of getting to start lines, vibes-based earrings, David's up-and-down crash recovery, a new study on fasting metabolism, 3D-printed shoes winning the Boston Marathon, the new UTMB and HOKA partnership, an international doping scandal, a cool study on e-sports training, Dan Quinn's approach to coaching, a new menstrual cycle study, and hot takes. Thank you for helping us with the courage to do scary things! We love you all! HUZZAH! Click "Claim Reward" for $80 at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
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Apr 16, 2024 • 1h 28min

202. Process v. Competitive Fire, USA Jersey Scandal, Boston Marathon Hot Takes, Carbs and Central Fatigue, and Valby's Cross Training!

We got extremely hyped watching the Boston Marathon before recording this amazing episode! The main training topic was a new study connecting carb intake during exercise to reduced central fatigue, leading to the researchers theorizing a link between "excess" carbs and improved neuromuscular function. The study protocol was weird and wild! Does this mean we should consume mid-podcast gels to improve joke performance? We promise to edit out the slurps. We also answered an incredible question on balancing a focus on the process with the competitive fire to race at the limits. The answer gets to the core of why we think athletics can be such a powerful stimulus for personal growth. And this episode was one of our most fun recordings ever, full of fascinating topics! Other topics: Megan reaching the taper for the Canyons 100k, the USA Olympic jersey scandal, updates from David's crash, the perils of dictation apps, 6 instant reactions from the Boston Marathon, an intriguing study on ketones and cognitive performance, Parker Valby's cross training schedule and what it means for training theory, mental health and performance, and more controversies in track. Megan even made what she called a "David statement" (definition: excessively bold and likely wrong), which is how you know this one gets spicy. We love you all! Huzzah! Click "Claim Reward" for $80 at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
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Apr 9, 2024 • 1h 39min

201. Reflections From a Near-Death Experience, Getting Back on the Bike, Zone 2 Tutorial, Shoe Reviews, and Fueling Cheat Sheets!

The hosts discuss a near-death biking experience, recovering from injuries, love and consciousness, ketones in TBI recovery, high carb fueling for cyclists, new shoe reviews, NCAA basketball, Zone 2 training, Molly Seidel's race, April Fool's jokes, book recommendation, and hot takes.
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Apr 2, 2024 • 1h 34min

200th Episode Celebration! 5 Ways Our Approach Has Changed, Strength Work Evolution, Post-Race Recovery, and World XC!

Celebrating the 200th episode with reflections on 5 changes in training/coaching, intense carb fueling, strength work tweaks, less reliance on high mileage, dive into steady running, and the magic of double workouts. Topics include post-race recovery tips, the inspiring Allie Ostrander journey, World XC, and more hot takes on character, progressive overload, and coffee timing

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