

Some Work, All Play
David Roche and Megan Roche
Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
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Mar 11, 2025 • 1h 43min
249. Heavy Lifting and Fatigue Resistance, Carbs After Exercise, Cramp Prevention, Cadence, and Health in Training!
Discover how heavy lifting can boost fatigue resistance for athletes, making a squat rack essential. The hosts dive into carb intake post-exercise with insights from a pro triathlete's health issues. Enjoy anecdotes about playful challenges in training, including humor around energy gels and grunting. They explore the dynamic between strength and endurance training and discuss the critical role of carbs in athletic health. Plus, tips on injury prevention, performance metrics, and the supportive culture in sports keep the conversation lively and engaging!

Mar 4, 2025 • 1h 35min
248. Zone 2 and Why It Matters, Heat Training Questions, Pre-Workout Carbs, and Trail Supershoe Follow-Up!
We brought some very sore legs into this great episode! The main topic was a new study on "Zone 2 Training," which gathered a panel of experts to review what Zone 2 means and why it matters. Our theory is that Zone 2 training is interacting with high-carb fueling to drive some of the performance revolution!We also talked about a new study on heat training. It shows that heat-induced adaptations and fitness improvements seem to mimic one another, but may come from different sources. Thus, stacking them could lead to outsized benefits!And get a big plate because there was a buffet of great topics! Other topics: leg soreness from downhill running, a follow-up study on trail supershoes, whether athletes without supershoes will be at a disadvantage on trails, weird heart rate zones, weird blood lactate curves, how athletes can vary from population averages, how we try to embrace pressure, pre-workout carbs, going for it at Western States, uphill treadmill workouts, feel v. metrics in harder workouts, joy in dark forests, and peeing in races.The hottest soundtrack in the club is going to be made up of the whale songs on this episode. Drop it like it's waaoaoooooooooooaoaoo.We love you all! HUZZAH!-David and MeganClick "Claim Reward" for $80 at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com/ (code "SWAP")For weekly bonus podcasts, articles, and videos (plus hat purchases): patreon.com/swapCheck out the SWAP video series: https://youtu.be/G_o4ZR1vwXQ?si=VRdyfQtzh-K4LpMV

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Feb 25, 2025 • 1h 40min
247. High-Carb and Health, Trail Supershoe Study, Racing Frequency, Pros and Cons of Stretching, and Building Toughness!
Delve into the health benefits of high-carb fueling during training and why it could be better than underfueling. Discover the implications of a study on carbon-plated trail shoes and the risks of drawing broad conclusions. Explore the world of competitive running, including a controversial shoe disqualification. The discussion covers the nuances of effective training, embracing mental toughness, and the humor surrounding frivolous lawsuits in the snack bar industry. Find inspiration in pursuing greatness, balancing ambition with authenticity.

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Feb 18, 2025 • 1h 35min
246. “No Secrets” Q+A on World Records, Kilian’s Fasted Workout, Health v. Performance, Wild Probiotics Studies, Applying Heart Rate Zones, Zone 2, and More!
In this lively discussion, the hosts dive into the recent spike in world records, attributing it to advancements in nutrition and gear. They dissect Kilian Jornet's fasted workout and its connection to probiotics, sparking a deep dive into probiotic science. The conversation spans health versus performance, the distinctions between road and trail running, and the psychology behind heart rate training. Listeners also learn about balancing athletic goals with personal wellness and the evolving science of endurance training.

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Feb 11, 2025 • 1h 40min
245. Why No Record is Safe, Strength Training Science, Plus Q+A on Electrolytes, Realism v. Optimism, Mental Toughness, and More!
Recent record-breaking performances have reshaped the landscape of endurance racing, sparking discussions about the future of athletics. The hosts dive into the nuances of strength training, emphasizing single-leg split squats with humor. They explore the pivotal roles of nutrition and sodium bicarbonate in performance, highlighting personal and community stories of perseverance in ultra running. The balance between optimism and realism is examined, alongside mental health strategies for athletes. Finally, they share lighthearted pop culture reflections, marrying nostalgia with athletic journeys.

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Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 38min
244. Why Pressure is Good, The Strange Science of Downhills, Plus Q+A on Ketones, Strides, Weekly Mileage, Anxiety, Going All-In, and More!
Discover why pressure is actually a thrill in sports, as hosts challenge the idea that it breaks the mind. They delve into the intriguing science of downhill running, revealing how muscle properties change after just one steep run. Enjoy a lively Q&A covering fuel strategies for athletes, the relationship between talent and patience, and even insights on balancing training with family life. Plus, indulge in lighthearted discussions on cereal choices and the dynamics of running gear!

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Jan 28, 2025 • 1h 37min
243. “No Secrets” Q+A on VO2 Max, Very Hard Workouts, Fueling Easy Days, Iron Levels, Confidence, Genetics, and More!
Explore the psychological battles athletes face, from brain panic to overcoming self-doubt. Discover the evolving landscape of nutrition in endurance sports and the significance of fueling for both high-intensity and easy days. Dive into the complexities of doping, compassion in testing, and the emotional toll it can take. The discussion also hints at the interplay between genetics and performance, while highlighting the importance of monitoring iron levels for optimal health. Laughter, wisdom, and stunning personal stories make this journey unforgettable.

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Jan 21, 2025 • 1h 37min
242. Why Low Carb Doesn’t Work, Plus Q+A on Active Heat Training, Bone Density, Fear Before Big Events, The Trial of Miles, and More!
A study shakes up the carbohydrate debate, suggesting athletes reconsider low-carb diets for peak performance. The hosts share personal experiences with fear before big events and the importance of monitoring bone density. They dive into fun topics like music's role in running, the challenges of postpartum fitness, and the significance of strength training. Plus, insights on active heat training emerge, along with lighthearted tips on winter running apparel, highlighting the blend of humor and serious discussions in the athletic community.

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Jan 14, 2025 • 1h 33min
241. Trail Performance OF THE YEAR?! Plus Q+A on Training Volume, Heat Training, Recovery Days, Bicarb Dose, Fitness Apps, and More!
This episode celebrates the recent award for trail performance, reflecting on the emotional journey behind it. The hosts dive into a lively Q&A, tackling hydration myths, training volume saturation, and the nuances of recovery runs. They discuss the importance of community support and personal achievements in athletics, while also exploring the challenges of balancing love and sport. Additionally, insights on fitness apps and heat training adaptations enrich the conversation, making it a heartfelt tribute to the running community.

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Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 36min
240. Why High Carb is for Almost Everyone, Improving Zone 2, Wild Study on Easy Training, Honest Western States 100 Thoughts, and a Wahoo Run Treadmill Review!
The hosts celebrate a memorable social media shout-out from running legend Kilian Jornet. They dive into a groundbreaking study on training strategies that could speed up marathon times, share their thoughts on high-carb fueling, and explore the importance of heart rate training. Humorously contrasting their parenting experiences with athleticism, they also review the Wahoo Run Treadmill and discuss the quirky beer mile challenge. Listeners are treated to insights on cross-training and innovative breakfast ideas like savory oatmeal!