

Perpetual Traffic
Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
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Mar 14, 2025 • 44min
How to Use Video to Sell Stuff….The Right Way with Ian Garlic
Ian Garlic, the founder of Video Case Story and a leading expert in video marketing, shares insights on leveraging video to boost sales more effectively. He emphasizes that simply creating more videos isn't enough; a strategic approach is crucial. Ian discusses how to map the customer journey and the importance of post-purchase engagement. He highlights the four essential videos every business needs, the impact of AI in marketing, and how to ethically use fear in marketing to drive conversions.

Mar 11, 2025 • 57min
The 100% Foolproof Framework to NEVER Make a Bad Hire Ever Again! (Part 2)
Join Josh Hill, VP of Thriving People at Tier 11 and an expert in recruitment strategies, as he unveils powerful hiring tactics. He explains why aligning candidates with core values is crucial. Discover how to leverage LinkedIn for outreach and automate your hiring with tools like JazzHR. Learn the art of crafting knockout questions to filter applicants efficiently. With insights on discovery calls and the balance between AI and human judgment, this discussion is a must for anyone looking to hire smarter and faster.

Mar 7, 2025 • 35min
(Replay) New Customer Acquisition: How Much Can You Afford to Pay?
How much can you really afford to pay for a new customer? The answer isn’t as simple as your Facebook ad spend. In this episode, Ralph Burns and Amanda Powell break down customer acquisition cost (CAC) and customer lifetime value (CLV) to uncover what businesses should actually be spending to scale profitably. They discuss how marketing costs go beyond ad spend, why your marketing team and operational expenses matter in CAC calculations, and how to use a 3:1 CLV-to-CAC ratio as a benchmark for growth. If you’re struggling with ad budgets, profitability, or scaling your business, this episode is a must-listen.Chapters:00:00:00 - Welcome to the Episode: How Much Should You Pay for a Customer?00:00:44 - Why Knowing Your Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) is Crucial00:06:20 - The Simple Formula for Calculating Customer Lifetime Value (CLV)00:08:15 - How to Calculate CLV Using a Basic Formula00:10:45 - Breaking Down CLV for Different Business Models00:12:10 - How Long Does It Take to Earn Your CLV?00:14:50 - Fast vs. Slow CLV Payback Periods & What They Mean00:17:54 - Transition to Determining Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)00:26:40 - Finding the Right Balance Between CLV and CAC for Growth00:29:52 - Key Takeaways: The 3:1 Rule for Scaling ProfitablyLINKS AND RESOURCES:Tier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comMongoose MediaPerpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Lauren on Instagram and Connect with Ralph on LinkedInThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/

Mar 4, 2025 • 38min
[eComm Business Audit] How to “Fool” Amazon on Google & Grow Your Business to Make More Profit
John Moran, an e-commerce expert, shares his invaluable insights into scaling brands and optimizing profitability. He discusses the critical balance between new customer acquisition costs and lifetime value. The conversation reveals how subscription models and strategic Amazon integration can drive growth. Moran emphasizes the importance of churn rate analysis and pricing strategies to enhance profitability. Listeners learn actionable tactics for leveraging Google-to-Amazon ads and optimizing visibility, ensuring long-term success in e-commerce.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 57min
How Meta Ads Manager Is Lying to You & What You Can Do About It
Ralph and Lauren dive into Meta's audience segmentation, revealing why in-app metrics can mislead your ad strategies. They discuss the crucial distinctions between new, engaged, and existing customers that impact your ad spend. Lauren shares surprising insights on how many brands are faltering in AI-driven customer engagement. They highlight the necessity of external tools to verify metrics, advocating for skepticism towards performance data provided by Meta. Expect critical insights sprinkled with humor and practical tips to optimize your advertising efforts.

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Feb 25, 2025 • 48min
Use This Foolproof Framework to NEVER Make a Bad Hire Ever Again! (Part 1)
Josh Hill, VP of Employee Success at Tier 11 and former Australian military captain, shares his expertise in building high-performing teams. He presents a foolproof framework for hiring A+ players, emphasizing the need to align core values and avoid emotional biases. Josh discusses the critical steps that prevent hiring chaos and advocates for a structured process over gut instincts. Plus, he dives into how to see new hires as valuable investments and the impact of AI on the recruiting landscape, all while keeping the conversation lively and engaging.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 3min
Why Your Marketing Tracking Sucks (Even If You Think It Doesn’t) and How to Fix It
Cameron Campbell, a top-tier media buyer at Tier 11, shares his expertise in optimizing Meta ads and data strategies. He discusses why many brands mistrack their ad data and highlights critical metrics like New Customer Acquisition Cost (NCAC). Cameron also compares Tier 11's Data Suite with Meta’s Conversions API, revealing the revenue potential being overlooked. He offers strategies for creative testing and scaling, helping eComm brands avoid costly mistakes and make data-driven decisions for growth.

Feb 18, 2025 • 32min
Why These 5 Ads Are The Best and Worst Super Bowl LIX Ads (Part Two)
Join Ralph and Lauren as they dissect the most bizarre and cringe-worthy Super Bowl ads from this year. From a disturbing Coffee Mate tongue ad to Tubi’s wild cowboy-themed mishap, they cover it all. They also delve into the unexpected political statements in ads, including a Canadian commercial that stood out. Plus, they reflect on the emotional highs and lows of advertisements, and Tom Brady's jaw-dropping watch deal. This candid critique reveals what works, what doesn't, and why we can't stop watching.

Feb 14, 2025 • 32min
Why These 5 Ads Are The Best and Worst Super Bowl LIX Ads (Part One)
Super Bowl ads are a cultural spectacle, and this discussion dives deep into the highs and lows of this year's offerings. From Wanda Sykes’ eye-catching campaign to Tom Brady’s surprising ad brilliance, the analysis is both entertaining and insightful. The duo explores what makes an ad memorable, and how brands can keep the buzz alive post-game. They even tackle the intersection of sports entertainment and social awareness, highlighting bold choices aimed at crucial health issues. Tune in for humor, strategy, and a fun banter between the hosts!

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Feb 11, 2025 • 28min
How “The 4 C’s” Will Catapult You to Your 10X Goal in 2025
Discover the often-misunderstood world of digital marketing, where improper tracking setups can hinder your success. Learn how setting ambitious 10X goals can change your decision-making process and drive significant growth. Delve into the importance of courage and confidence in achieving extraordinary objectives, all while embracing personal desires. Plus, find innovative customer tracking strategies that can transform your business landscape and keep you ahead of the curve. Don't leave money on the table—maximize your potential!


