
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 7min
Is the Influencer Economy Beginning to Crack? (436)
Has the content creator/influencer business model gone bearish? Glamour seems to think so. We disagree. The Paramount/Skydance deal is finally done...we think. Spotify is beginning to court more video podcasts. Is it working in their fight against YouTube? And BusinessWeek has a 120-page print issue on the way. Does this mean a new opportunity in print? Wins and losses include ArtBotAI and Mohawk Chevy. Rants and raves include Trump speaking at the Bitcoin Conference and AI spammers. ----- This week's links: Power Slap and Dana White Paramount Skydance Deal Spotify's Continuing Shift to Video Influencers Aren't Getting Famous Like They Used To BusinessWeek's Print Move Mohawk Chevy on TikTok ArtBotAI Trump to Speak at Bitcoin Conference The Rise of AI Content ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Jul 5, 2024 • 49min
Did Marketing Eat Content Marketing? (435)
A special condensed episode of This Old Marketing. We cover the latest supreme court decision on social media. Good decision or more of the same? And do the brand new rules of marketing and advertising include content marketing? If content marketing becomes marketing, what happens to the discipline? Rants and raves include mxmtoon and research from Meta and Kantar. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Sends Social Media Back to States Brand New Rules of Advertising mxmtoon Research from Meta and Kantar One Million Checkboxes ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Jun 28, 2024 • 1h 11min
Supreme Court Makes Nice with White House Over Disinformation (434)
In breaking news, the Supreme Court is allowing the White House to press social media companies to remove disinformation. Did this really need to go to court in the first place? Time strikes a deal with OpenAI, while the recording industry files suit against Suno AI and Uncharted Labs citing copyright infringement. And...have we learned anything from moving text to video online? Hits and misses include the Verizon logo and the Toys R Us commercial produced with OpenAI. Rants and raves include the Olympics and AI forgetting to read the room. ----- This week's links: Supreme Court Ruling on Social Media Time Strikes Deal with OpenAI Recording Industry Sues Sona We Learned the Wrong Lessons from Video Verizon's New Logo Toys R Us's AI Ad Al Michaels' AI Voice at the Olympics AI Execs Forget to Read the Room ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 7min
Is the Smartphone Killing Us? (433)
While Wells Fargo is into employee surveillance, the US Surgeon General pushes for a warning on social media much like those on cigarette packages. Forbes threatens Perplexity with legal action, while TikTok debuts humanlike AI-generated avatars for advertising. Hits and misses include Oscar Mayer and American Express. Rants and raves include indie print and the Cannes Lions award winners. ----- This week's links: Wells Fargo Fires Employees Surgeon General and Social Media Forbes Threatens Perplexity TikTok Debuts AI Ad Features Oscar Mayer Bacon Ad Cannes Lions 2024 High-End Indie Print Publications ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 9min
Is Google the Big Loser in Apple Intelligence? (432)
Apple's big developer conference meeting saw the launch of IOS 18 and Apple Intelligence? Apple decided to partner with OpenAI and not Google for their AI integration. Is this a big miss for Google Gemini? Plus, Adobe and Meta have big terms and conditions issues this week. Hits and misses include OpenAI, Google and Nathan's hot dogs. Rants and raves include "Infectious Generosity" by Chris Anderson and yet another AI content marketing launch. ----- This week's links: Adobe's Missed Terms Adobe's Apology META's content problems with Europe Apple Intelligence Is Launched Joey Chestnut and Nathan's Hot Dogs AI Content Marketing Agent ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Jun 7, 2024 • 1h 11min
Is Twitter/X Dead or Making a Comeback? (431)
Twitter/X explores NSFW content and vertical videos, sparking a debate on its survival. Spotify's CEO's remarks on content cost spark controversy. Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night. Rants and raves on Marcus Sheridan and Suits.

May 31, 2024 • 1h 11min
Does the GoogleGate Leak Even Matter? (430)
Big news this week as leaked Google search API documents are released into the world. The TLDR? Google has been lying about how it formulates search results. What do we know? Google manipulates content like an editor of a media company would. But does it even matter? AI scams are hitting a tipping point as we get closer to the US elections. OpenAI inks two more content deals and Elon raises money for xAI. Hits and misses include a home appliance store and Cheez-Its. Rants and raves include marketing agencies and GaryVee's commencement speech. ----- This week's links: The Google API Document Leak Celebs Getting AI Scammed Atlantic/Vox Ink Deal with OpenAI Elon Raises $6 Billion for xAI HBR Recognizes Creator Economy Home Appliance Sales and Service Marketing Agencies as Consultants GaryVee's Commencement Address ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

May 24, 2024 • 1h 11min
AI Continues to Eat Media Companies (429)
AI giants continue to make deals with media companies, Trump Media's financial woes discussed, debate on Chick-fil-A's social media influencers, hits and misses including GaryVee's book and Coca-Cola lens, raves for content marketing platforms and Cleveland Guardians baseball team.

May 20, 2024 • 31min
Live from CEX 2024 (with special guest Philip Hernandez)
A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation. Please follow Philip on Instagram and check out the Haunted Attraction Network. Special thanks to Hubspot for sponsoring the opening reception at CEX, and to our friends at VividFront for producing this recording. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

6 snips
May 17, 2024 • 1h 10min
It's Raining AI (428)
This week's podcast delves into the latest in AI news, from OpenAI's ChatGPT4 Omni launch to TikTok's AI algorithm upgrades. They also discuss the rumored beef between Kendrick and Drake, dissect John Mulaney's new show, and explore Prof G's podcast strategy. Don't miss the rants and raves about OEF's 100 Holes of Golf model and MarTech spending cuts.
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