
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.
Latest episodes

Jun 2, 2023 • 1h 12min
AI: The End Is Near (378)
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the 22-word statement from the creators of AI. Simply put, we are in big trouble. WPP launches a content engine with Nvidia that will make the production of ads quicker and easier because of AI. I know...everything we always wanted. Elon continues to push Twitter over the edge, including a big middle-finger to the EU's Disinformation Code of Practice, and the formal outsourcing of their ad unit. And finally, does purpose-driven content have a place with "everybody" brands today? Rants and raves include a fan moment at the Indy 500 and the hope that Peloton has righted the ship. This week's links: AI Could Destroy Humanity WPP Building AI Content Engine Elon Drops Moderation Twitter Outsources Ads Twitter Worth One-Third Less Purpose-Driven Marketing Peloton's New Brand Move Indy 500 Champ Goes Fans First ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

May 26, 2023 • 1h 5min
Meta to Announce Twitter Competitor Called Instaflop (377)
In this episode, Elon goes full Murdoch, trying to build Twitter into the next Fox News. Advertising continues to plummet for media companies and creators. How long will this ad recession last? There are rumors that Meta will announce a Twitter competitor any time now. Joe and Robert believe this is false news. And TikTok sues Montana in the goofball move of the year (by Montana, not TikTok). Rants and raves include the creator economy middle class and 71 percent of CMOs want more marketing tech budget. This week's links: Musk Moves in on Murdoch Advertising Is in a Recession Instagram to Release Twitter Competitor? TikTok Sues Montana Marketers Want More Budget [Research] The Creator Economy Middle Class ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

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May 19, 2023 • 1h 13min
Clear & Present Altman (376)
The battle for AI continues...this time on the Hill. Sam Altman testified to Congress, doing his best Harrison Ford impression (you'll get the reference after listening). The writers' strike continues, and now includes generative AI at the center. And there is a new product coming out that could solve the copyright battle. Podcasting ads are going gangbusters, while Google is about the change the face of search (maybe). Rants and raves include the Daily Dracula and a lesson about advertising from Dotdash Meredith. This week's links: Sam Altman Takes the Hill Copyright and the Writers' Strike A New Copyright Savior? Podcasting Ad Growth New Google Search DotDash Meredith's New Advertising Model ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

May 12, 2023 • 1h 12min
The Battle for Trust (375)
The next great online battle is that over trust. We are seeing this play out in front of us, first with the news of Tucker Carlson moving from Fox to Twitter, then Elon's "trust nothing" decree, and then as millions flood to follow MrBeast. Google and Microsoft go to battle over AI advertising products that aren't ready for market yet. Rants and raves include Berkshire Hathaway's annual letter and Salesforce's pivot to AI. This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! This week's links: Tucker Carlson to Twitter Elon Musk and Trust Nothing MrBeast Increases Followers by 20 Million in a Day MSFT to Monetize Chat and AI Google's Generative AI Search Ads Berkshire's Annual Letter to Investors Salesforce Pivots to AI ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

May 5, 2023 • 40min
Robert and Joe Live from CEX: Creator Economy Expo (374)
For only the fourth time in history, Joe and Robert record a live episode face-to-face. Creator Economy Expo (CEX) 2023 brought content creators from all over the world together between May 1st and 3rd. The boys do a complete roundup of the latest creator economy research, as well as an overview of the keynotes at CEX, all inside the Evergreen Podcast Networks studio at CEX. This week's links: 2023 Creator Economy Research from The Tilt Creator Economy Expo ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apr 28, 2023 • 1h 13min
AI in Content: How Much Is Too Much? (373)
Big media news this week as multiple big name personalities get let go, plus Buzzfeed News decides to shutter its news division. Twitter's verification system is, frankly, all over the place. Elon cannot keep a decision for more than 24 hours at this point. ChatGPT announces new privacy options you didn't even know was a problem. Is AI and content making more or less sense these days? Rants and raves include AI consumer research and a mea culpa from Robert and his take on Bud Light's marketing. This week's stories: Buzzfeed News Closure Twitter's Botched Verification ChatGPT's Privacy Settings AI Consumer Survey Bud Light Fires Marketing Execs ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apr 20, 2023 • 1h 6min
Twitter X and Its Boujie Verification Service (372)
Elon is back in the news, announcing that Twitter will now report directly into X corp. Is this the X everything app plan or a way to hide expenses? A Drake song goes viral that wasn't really Drake. Joe and Robert discuss the impact of AI parodies from music to text (and what we should expect). Spotify goes non-exclusive with Gimlet. Was this a planned or surprise move? And a new Deloitte survey shows that video games now top the content chart. What other changes in content consumption are ahead? Rants and raves include the movie Air and how B2B content marketing needs to step up. This week's articles: Twitter Now X Corp Could Elon Turn a Profit Soon? AI Drake Goes Viral Spotify and Gimlet Video Games Top Content Charts B2B Content Marketing Needs to Bold Up ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apr 14, 2023 • 1h 7min
TikTok's Lemon8 Battles Instagram (371)
Bytedance, the owner of TikTok, puts big money behind their Instagram/Pinterest clone called Lemon8. Pushing for a May launch in the states, Lemon8 is going directly after Instagram (and perhaps the US government). Will it succeed in an already crowded social media field? Bud Light gets hate mail from Kid Rock. Is that a good or bad thing? And AI continues to be the leading story in the world of marketing. When will the hurting stop? In rants and raves, Joe raves about a Lin-Manuel Miranda clip, while Robert rants about Twitter (again). This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you even go live. Get Streamyard today! This week's links: A Lemon8 Overview Lemon8 Gets Big Downloads Bud Light Backlash Hank Green Is Scared of AI Can AI Defame You? Lin-Manuel Miranda/John Kander Clip on Colbert Twitter's Checkmark Blues ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Apr 7, 2023 • 45min
10 Proven Ways to Build an Audience [Special Episode] (370)
In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert go back and forth each sharing the five best decisions they made over their careers that helped them build a loyal audience. While some are no brainers, a few of these will surprise you. We hope you enjoy this very special episode of This Old Marketing. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Mar 31, 2023 • 1h 2min
Invest in Substack: Baller Move or Desperation Play? (369)
This week, the boys analyze the surprise announcement from Substack about how they want their customers to also be investors. Is this an innovative or inclusionary move, or a sign that the Substack business model is suffering? Some big hitters move against the proliferation of AI. Good move or too late? Twitter and Meta are both going full-out "verified" and want money from their creators. Is this a necessary evil or something we should ignore? Rants and raves include a prison marathon and an AI rant from Robert. This week's links: Invest with Substack Is Substack Crazy or Evil? Social Media Goes Paid Route US Ad Forecast Cut Again Musk and Others Call for Stop to AI Everyone Is an AI Expert San Quentin Marathon ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.