

The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast
David Lecko, Ryan Haywood
It is a tragedy that 95% of the country is brainwashed into believing that you have to work 50 hours per week for 50 years just to retire. By that point, you might not even enjoy your time off!
This podcast helps you escape the traditional 9-5 and embark on a fulfilling, financially rewarding journey.
We will show you how it is possible to make your annual salary, monthly through a proven business model called wholesaling real estate.
Why wholesaling real estate? This perfect strategy doesn't require significant capital to actually purchase the property yourself, it allows you time freedom without being at someone’s beck and call, and you can make 15% of each deal. You simply find distressed properties and connect them with investors. It's a flexible and scalable way to enter the world of real estate without many of the traditional barriers and offers 5 figure paydays.
If you're a newcomer to this world, this podcast is specifically designed for you. Here's what you can look forward to:
Wholesaling 101: We break down the ABCs of wholesaling. And no, 'B' doesn't stand for 'Boring.'
Beginner’s Bootcamp: Think of this as your training wheels in real estate, only a lot less embarrassing than the ones on your childhood bike.
Action Steps: Get ready to jot down exactly what to do next.
Support Squad: Dive into a community of fellow newbies with experts we bring in to help. You will achieve success much faster when you have access to people who have achieved what you want to achieve, and the support from those on the same path.
Ready to get started? Let's get you listening all the way to the bank.
Subscribe and leave us a review!
Sign up for a free trial of DealMachine : https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
This podcast helps you escape the traditional 9-5 and embark on a fulfilling, financially rewarding journey.
We will show you how it is possible to make your annual salary, monthly through a proven business model called wholesaling real estate.
Why wholesaling real estate? This perfect strategy doesn't require significant capital to actually purchase the property yourself, it allows you time freedom without being at someone’s beck and call, and you can make 15% of each deal. You simply find distressed properties and connect them with investors. It's a flexible and scalable way to enter the world of real estate without many of the traditional barriers and offers 5 figure paydays.
If you're a newcomer to this world, this podcast is specifically designed for you. Here's what you can look forward to:
Wholesaling 101: We break down the ABCs of wholesaling. And no, 'B' doesn't stand for 'Boring.'
Beginner’s Bootcamp: Think of this as your training wheels in real estate, only a lot less embarrassing than the ones on your childhood bike.
Action Steps: Get ready to jot down exactly what to do next.
Support Squad: Dive into a community of fellow newbies with experts we bring in to help. You will achieve success much faster when you have access to people who have achieved what you want to achieve, and the support from those on the same path.
Ready to get started? Let's get you listening all the way to the bank.
Subscribe and leave us a review!
Sign up for a free trial of DealMachine : https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
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Apr 25, 2025 • 39min
336: What To Say When A Seller Actually Calls You (Real Call)
What do you actually say when a seller calls you back? In this episode, David shares a real recorded call with a homeowner—and breaks it down with Ryan, step by step. You’ll hear what worked, what didn’t, and how to keep sellers talking long enough to uncover what really matters. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:43 - What Led To This Call & Property Details4:14 - Starting The Call Breakdown6:52 - Problems That Come From Not Having Lease Agreements10:09 - Continuing On With The Call15:05 - The Importance Of Letting The Seller Talk20:24 - What David Thought When The Seller Was Giving Low Comps25:46 - Letting The Seller Talk More33:49 - Ryan’s Thoughts On The Call38:51 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 23, 2025 • 39min
335: $80,000 First Wholesale Deal
Fayez Jangda didn’t find his first deal the traditional way—and that’s what makes this story so powerful. Instead of chasing distressed properties, he found a distressed wholesaler with a contract they couldn’t move. What happened next? A joint venture that netted Fayez $80,000 and launched his investing career. In this episode, he shares the unconventional approach he took, how he scaled from one deal to doing a deal a day, and why novations became a major part of his strategy. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Intro0:52 - An Overview of Fayez Jangda’s Business2:28 - Making $80k On His First Deal7:46 - How He Approached Wholesaling Like A Commercial Project12:06 - Why He Started Wholesaling In The First Place16:02 - Experiencing Struggles As An Entrepreneur17:10 - Finding His Next Deal19:36 - How Novations Grew To Be A Big Part Of His Business25:19 - Do You Have To Be An Agent To Do Novations?26:51 - What Novations Allow You To Do As An Investor29:12 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202530:47 - The Hard To Get Data That Fayez Is Looking For38:38 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Fayez Jangdahttps://www.instagram.com/tecknofj/ Website: Fayez Jangdahttps://winwinhomes.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 22, 2025 • 15min
334: 4 Steps To Build A 6-Figure Land Flipping Business
In this 15-minute highlight of the masterclass, Dherby Laraque reveals the 4 critical steps behind her builder-first land strategy that’s helped her and her students hit consistent 6-figure results. You’ll learn how she picks the right markets, connects with high-volume builders, makes smart offers, and sets up simple systems to scale. If you’re still chasing distressed houses, this might be your wake-up call. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - The Difference Between Wholesaling Houses Versus Land2:04 - Step 1: Choosing A Market6:28 - Step 2: How To Find And Contact Home Builders12:36 - Step 3: Marketing To Sellers13:42 - Step 4: Automate And Scale14:27 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Dherby Laraquehttps://www.instagram.com/ms_dherby/ Website: Dherby Laraquehttps://linktr.ee/Ms_Dherby Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 21, 2025 • 24min
333: 150+ Deals A Year In One Of The Toughest Markets
Laz Perez runs a South Florida real estate business focused on wholesaling, completing 160 deals last year. He notes that the Florida market is currently "pretty cold" or softer. To navigate this, Laz emphasizes dynamic pricing based on market conditions and a strong disposition process with a focus on building a buyer pool. Despite the cooling market, Laz believes absolutely there is still opportunity by understanding local areas and adapting strategies.Here are three impressive things about Laz Perez:Laz shifted his business strategy from buying properties at auctions to directly reaching out to sellers. This shows he can adapt his approach as the market changes.After trying to flip houses himself, Laz realized his skills were better suited for marketing and sales. So he stopped flippingLaz finds a lot of satisfaction in seeing his team members succeed in their personal lives, like getting married and buying homes. This highlights his focus on people and team building. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview Of Laz Perez’s Business1:54 - Finding A Job In The Real Estate Industry Before Investing3:30 - What Happened With His First Few Flips & Where He Found Them8:14 - Transitioning Into Marketing To Sellers9:43 - One Of His High Points As A Business Owner10:30 - Hiring Talent Proactively12:53 - Having Hard Conversations With Employees14:08 - Is Wholesaling Too Competitive?16:15 - Do Interest Rates Affect Laz’s Business?19:34 - Building A Buyers List20:56 - The Mindset That Led To His Success22:07 - What He’d Be Doing If He Wasn’t In Real Estate22:55 - What Laz Is Looking Forward To Most In 202523:42 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Laz Perezhttps://www.instagram.com/LachPerez/ Website: Laz Perezhttps://www.peakcashoffers.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
332: From Firefighter to $4M A Year Through Wholesale Real Estate
Are you frustrated by inconsistent deal flow in your wholesaling business after experiencing initial wins, perhaps remembering the excitement of your first $20,000 deal but struggling to scale? In this episode, we learn from Aaron Gaunt, who progressed from those early successes to running a Southern California wholesale operation that achieved under four million in deals last year. He'll reveal the team structure, including three outside sales reps and four inside sales reps, and the systems he implemented to move beyond sporadic deals to a predictable volume. Discover how Aaron built a "lean and mean" operation to consistently generate and close wholesale transactions, allowing him to focus on growth and even dedicate time to personal pursuits. Here are three impressive things about Aaron Gaunt:Aaron made a life-changing decision to quit his job as a firefighter after his first significant $55,000 wholesale deal (by reselling a contract), demonstrating a bold move based on early success and belief in his real estate venture.Aaron has proactively implemented strategies to "buy back his time," including building a full commercial-grade gym at his house and hiring someone to handle household chores, freeing up several hours each week to focus on his business and personal life.Aaron emphasizes the importance of core values (growthminded, competitive greatness, extreme ownership) and a mission statement (be excellent, be ethical, lasting relationship with you) within his company, actively integrating them into team training and daily operations. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Working On Fitness To Maximize Productivity4:01 - Buying Back Your Time5:45 - How Can A Real Estate Business Generate Recurring Revenue11:03 - What David Put In Place To Buy Back His Time15:48 - Books That David Recommends18:54 - How Do You Keep More Of The Revenue You Generate?30:20 - What Aaron’s Business Looks Like33:58 - How He Approaches Training His Employees35:53 - Why Aaron Got Into Real Estate & Low Points In His Journey43:49 - One Of His Highest Points In Business46:22 - How To Make Sure Your Kids Aren’t Spoiled53:21 - What Aaron Would Say If Someone Said It Was Too Late To Invest53:55 - DealMachine’s Data & AI In Real Estate59:42 - Cold Calling Services1:04:49 - What Aaron Is Looking Forward To In 20251:07:30 - The Early Days Of Balancing Firefighting And Starting A Business1:15:34 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Aaron Gaunthttps://www.instagram.com/AaronLGaunt/ Website: Aaron Gaunthttps://linktr.ee/algaunt88 Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 16, 2025 • 33min
331: 200+ Real Estate Deals A Year—Here’s How He Got There
Are you spending valuable time and resources on marketing that yields no results due to inaccurate or outdated data? In this episode, we learn from Chad Young, who openly shares his early struggles that involved sending out an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 yellow letters based on poor data, which significantly delayed his first successful transaction. Chad will explain how he persevered through these initial setbacks and eventually discovered effective marketing methods that led his company to achieve 200 deals per year. Discover actionable insights from Chad's journey to help you avoid similar pitfalls and streamline your path to consistent deal flow in real estate.Here are three impressive things about Chad Young that were not explicitly mentioned in the episode:Chad demonstrated significant perseverance despite early setbacks and a substantial financial investment of around $30,000 before securing his first deal. This highlights his determination to succeed even when faced with initial failure due to bad data.Chad's company experienced a period of rapid growth after shifting marketing strategies, notably with radio advertising, where they were spending approximately $5,000 per month and consistently securing three contracts with an average profit of $40,000 each. This indicates a highly effective marketing phase.Chad has made a significant commitment to leadership development, investing heavily in coaching for himself and his team with the specific goal of scaling his business further. This demonstrates a strategic approach to long-term growth beyond just deal acquisition. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - Why It Took Chad Young So Long To Get His First Deal3:26 - The Story Behind His First Deal6:33 - His Journey From 1 to 500 Deals10:43 - Why The Industry Favors Cold Calling11:25 - The Mindset That Led To His Success13:52 - How His Team Has Evolved15:23 - What Chad Is Looking Forward To In 202516:44 - Having Hard Conversations20:34 - The Double Lot Data From DealMachine & More Data He Wants23:22 - What He’s Hoping To Learn From CG This Year24:33 - What Chad Would Be Doing If He Wasn’t In Real Estate25:23 - Are Interest Rates Too High To Invest?26:50 - One Of His Lowest Lows In Business29:42 - His Highest Highs31:55 - Closing Thoughts32:55 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Chad Younghttps://www.instagram.com/chadyoungid/ Website: The Easy Home Buyerhttps://theeasyhomebuyer.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 15, 2025 • 16min
330: These 5 Numbers Decide Whether You Close Deals Or Fail
Most investors struggle because they’re flying blind — but it doesn’t have to be that way. In this episode, you’ll learn the 5 core metrics that top-performing real estate investors track every week to identify bottlenecks, boost conversions, and grow consistently. Plus, you’ll hear the personal story behind the 4P mindset that helped turn a financial low point into a thriving business.Email To Get The LOACC Spreadsheet: yourgift@joehomebuyer.com KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - The 4P Model That Joe Homebuyer Uses3:29 - Learning From The Highs And Lows In Your Life6:53 - LOACC: Your Business Vitals11:12 - Tracking Your Business Vitals With The Joe Homebuyer Spreadsheet15:29 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Joe Homebuyerhttps://www.instagram.com/joehomebuyerfranchising/ Website: Joe Homebuyerhttps://www.joehomebuyer.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 14, 2025 • 44min
329: How He Got To 360 Rentals (And What He’d Do Differently)
Welcome to the show for real estate investors looking to go beyond the limitations of the Multiple Listing Service. Are you tired of competing for slim margins on MLS properties and wondering how to tap into more lucrative opportunities? In this episode, we sit down with Brian Higgins, who initially started his real estate journey by buying rentals on the MLS without even knowing about wholesaling. Brian's story takes us through his evolution into a seasoned investor who built a portfolio of 360 rental properties and also successfully wholesaled approximately 500 properties over a few years. Tune in to learn how Brian transitioned beyond relying solely on the MLS to uncover alternative deal sources and develop the analysis skills needed to achieve significant scale in your real estate business. Here are three impressive things about Brian Higgins that were not explicitly mentioned in the podcast intro we created:Brian and his partner rapidly scaled their business, purchasing approximately 800 to 900 deals in a four-year range. This demonstrates a significant pace of acquisition and activity.Brian's understanding of deal analysis evolved to prioritize long-term cash flow over just initial equity gains, recognizing that even deals with high equity might not be sound investments if they don't cash flow adequately. This shows a deeper understanding of sustainable real estate investing.Brian and his partner developed a model called "burn keys" where they would wholesale properties, renovate them, and even offer property management, providing a full-service solution for investors. This highlights their innovative approach and ability to cater to a specific investor need. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview Of Brian Higgins’ Business2:59 - How Brian Got His Start In Real Estate7:57 - The Investors That Buy Deals From Him8:41 - Offsetting The Income From Real Estate & Cost Segregation12:18 - What He Was Trying To Accomplish When He Started His Business14:48 - Owning 360 Rentals & A Property Management Company18:33 - How His Thought Process Changed After Having A Few Properties Paid Off22:07 - The Mindset That Led To His Success24:01 - Working With Contractors & Appraisers26:45 - How Brian Approaches Renovation Costs31:53 - What He’d Be Doing If He Wasn’t Doing Real Estate32:45 - His Lowest Point In Business34:39 - His Highest Highs In Business36:05 - What He Would Say To Someone Who Says It’s Too Late To Invest39:41 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202543:42 - Closing Thoughts44:09 - Outro LINKS:Facebook: Brian Higginshttps://www.facebook.com/brian.higgins.904/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 11, 2025 • 45min
328: What It Really Takes to Flip 100 Houses a Year
Are you concerned about the increasing costs of marketing diminishing your returns in wholesaling? In this episode, we learn from Chris Burrow, who transitioned beyond initial wholesaling to navigate these challenges. Chris currently focuses on fix and flip projects and manages 60 rental properties as part of his business, aiming for approximately 100 deals annually across these various strategies. Discover how exploring options like fix and flip and long-term rentals can provide more sustainable pathways in a changing market.Here are three more impressive things about Chris Burrow:Chris experienced rapid success after starting in real estate investing in 2018, going from making only $20,000 as a real estate agent in 2017 to quickly closing deals and catching up on debt.He places a strong emphasis on building genuine connections with sellers by listening to their stories and offering solutions based on empathy, contrasting this with the sales-focused approach he felt was inauthentic as an agent.Chris has developed structured systems for his fix and flip business, including a standardized renovation blueprint and a property grading system for efficient underwriting. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - An Overview of Chris Burrow’s Business1:03 - How He Got His Start In Real Estate1:59 - Why Flipping Felt More Authentic For Chris9:15 - Working With His Wife10:10 - When He Decided He Wanted To Flip Instead Of Wholesale14:25 - How They Estimate Rehab Costs16:44 - Deciding What To Anchor18:20 - How They Approach Sales Training23:11 - Finding Reliable Contractors28:35 - Are Interest Rates Too High To Invest?31:27 - What Chris Would Be Doing If He Wasn’t A Real Estate Investor32:27 - The Mindset That Led To His Success34:59 - His Highest High In Business38:03 - What He’s Looking Forward To Most In 202540:16 - The Hard To Get Data That Chris Is Looking For44:55 - Outro LINKS:Instagram: Chris Burrowhttps://www.instagram.com/thechrisburrow/ Website: Chris Burrowhttps://www.maximumcashhomebuyers.com/ Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 9, 2025 • 23min
Hard To Get Data That Real Estate Investors Want (That WE Have)
Real estate investors always want an edge—and in this video, we break down exactly what kind of data separates the pros from the pack. From AI-powered lists of likely sellers, to hidden double-lot flip opportunities, to the agents and property managers quietly controlling deal flow—we cover seven powerful data points that are hard to get... unless you know where to look. Learn how to use DealMachine’s filters (and a few backdoor tricks) to access all this and more. KEY TALKING POINTS:0:00 - 9 Types Of Hard To Get Data That DealMachine Has1:30 - #1: Emails Of Vacant Scatter Lots4:16 - #2: Agents Who Sold More Than One New Construction In The Last Year5:47 - #3: Property Managers8:32 - #4: Homes On Double Lots12:58 - #5: Input 40 Previous Deals To Reverse Engineer17:50 - #6: Emergency List Of Run Down Properties18:57 - #7: Top Performing Agents Ordered By Listings With LinkedIn Profiles22:36 - Closing Thoughts LINKS:Instagram: David Leckohttps://www.instagram.com/dlecko Website: DealMachinehttps://www.dealmachine.com/pod Instagram: Ryan Haywoodhttps://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments Website: Heritage Home Investmentshttps://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/