Perpetual Traffic
Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic is a twice weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend) and Lauren Petrullo (award-winning CEO of Mongoose Media), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Episodes
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Nov 21, 2025 • 25min
SaaS Case Study: The Lazy Way to a 26.31 MER Using Creative Diversification
Discover how a SaaS company skyrocketed its revenue from $1,300 to $393,000 monthly by revamping its ad strategy. Learn the importance of creative diversification in navigating Meta's Andromeda algorithm. The hosts delve into effective frameworks like the NCAC reducer and the transformative story ad structure. They unveil how leveraging both Meta and Google Ads can lead to significant cost savings while maximizing returns. Tune in for actionable insights on optimizing ad spend and achieving sustainable growth!
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Nov 18, 2025 • 27min
How We Slashed nCAC $44 to $25 in 10 Days with Meta Andromeda
John Moran, a digital ads practitioner from Tier 11, shares insights on media buying, focusing on the transformative Andromeda model. He discusses how creative diversification is crucial, illustrating this with a case study where NCAC dropped from $44 to $25 in just 10 days. John emphasizes the importance of first-click tracking and continuous creative iterations. The conversation reveals why understanding Meta's attribution model is essential and how new creative strategies can dramatically enhance ad performance.
Nov 14, 2025 • 34min
The Invisible AI Underbelly That No Marketer Knows About...Until Now (PART 2)
Big tech companies like Google and Meta are pouring billions into AI, redefining digital marketing. The Meta Andromeda update is revolutionizing ad performance through creative diversification. Discover how AI isn't just a trend but a crucial tool for marketers. Learn practical steps to automate tasks you dislike and improve productivity. The discussion highlights the hidden infrastructure of AI, including data centers and the economic implications of AWS's growth. It's time to embrace AI or risk falling behind the competition.
Nov 11, 2025 • 30min
The Invisible AI Underbelly That No Marketer Knows About...Until Now (PART 1)
Discover the hidden world of AI in marketing and learn how it's transforming the landscape! The hosts delve into the massive investments by tech giants in AI and its impact on creativity and ad performance. Explore how groundbreaking tools enable real-time language learning and analyze the GPU infrastructure powering modern AI capabilities. Understand the strategic importance of creative diversification, and get insights on adapting to the rapidly evolving AI-driven market. Get ready for a future where AI reshapes every aspect of marketing!
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Nov 7, 2025 • 36min
The #1 Mistake That's Secretly Killing Your Meta Andromeda Ads with Cole Turner
Cole Turner, a growth strategist at Tier 11, dives deep into the often-misunderstood concept of New Customer Acquisition Cost (nCAC). He shares a revealing case study of a beauty brand that uncovered hidden cash losses due to incorrect nCAC calculations. Cole explains the vital components that contribute to accurate nCAC, why knowing your numbers is crucial, and how scaling ad spend can sometimes lead to better outcomes. Tune in to learn how small errors in metrics can have a huge financial impact!
Nov 4, 2025 • 38min
FIRE Your Media Buyer: The Fix for Wasted Ad Spend
The conversation dives into the evolving role of media buyers in the age of AI, highlighting that optimizing beyond ads is essential. Key points include the importance of landing page congruency for conversions and effective email triage after the click. They emphasize disqualifying bad leads to enhance data hygiene, and why growth strategists are becoming crucial. Misleading metrics and the need for holistic funnel management are also discussed, along with strategies for improving customer journeys and boosting sales.
Oct 31, 2025 • 44min
Stop Losing Clients! Master Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud to Close Deals
Oren Klaff, a master of persuasion and author of 'Pitch Anything', provides invaluable strategies on negotiating with confidence. He emphasizes the importance of building genuine desire in clients to close deals effectively. Oren discusses the power of status in negotiations, explaining the difference between physical and cognitive status. He also shares insights on saying the 'quiet part out loud' to reset expectations and advises using clear choices to gauge prospects’ intentions. Get ready to level up your negotiation skills!
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Oct 28, 2025 • 26min
The Pros and Cons of Meta’s New Advantage+ Creative Image Generator Tool
Explore the intriguing trade-offs of using Meta’s Advantage+ Creative Image Generator. Discover how AI can enhance conversions while subtly altering your brand’s creative integrity. Hear about unexpected outcomes from real campaigns, including the dilemma of sacrificing control for performance. Delve into the challenges of maintaining brand consistency across various formats and learn about the nuances of manual versus automated content creation. This discussion uncovers the potential risks of relying too heavily on AI in advertising.
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Oct 24, 2025 • 49min
Stop Pausing Winning Ads! Andromeda Ad Strategy That Changes Everything
John Moran, Chief Strategist at Tier 11, dives into the transformative impact of Meta's Andromeda update. He reveals why traditional ad strategies can stifle growth, emphasizing that metrics like CPA alone can be misleading. Through case studies, he illustrates how creative sequencing and first-click insights reveal true ad performance. John also discusses the effectiveness of user-generated content versus product ads, urging listeners to rethink ad optimization and spend strategies for better scaling in the new Meta landscape.
Oct 21, 2025 • 42min
Did Advantage+ Creative Image Generation Just Kill Manual Ad Design?
Dive into the fascinating world of Meta's new creative testing tools! Discover how Advantage+ AI image generation is reshaping ad design and testing. Hear real campaign results and learn about the quirks of Meta's budget distribution. Explore the benefits and challenges of AI-generated creatives, including on-brand variations and custom edits. Plus, gain insights on avoiding overspending and aligning with client brand standards. Get ahead of Meta's automation to optimize your ad campaigns!
