
Marketing Against The Grain
Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
Latest episodes

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Apr 6, 2023 • 31min
Midjourney V5 Update: Everything You Need To Know (#107)
Discover how Midjourney V5 is revolutionizing content creation with cutting-edge AI tools. The hosts dive into the transformative potential for marketers and graphic designers, streamlining creative processes. They discuss the heated intersection between AI innovation and copyright challenges, raising crucial questions about intellectual property in a tech-driven world. Explore the implications of rapid advancements in AI and how marketers need to adapt to stay ahead in this evolving landscape.

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Apr 4, 2023 • 32min
3 Growth Hacks Startups Use To Go From $0 to $1 Billion (#106)
Discover the power of harnessing templates for growth, as Kipp and Kieran discuss how companies like Canva and Figma thrive through user-generated content. They dive into the role of AI in optimizing business strategies and how playful competition can spark marketing creativity. The duo emphasizes community engagement and feedback loops, sharing successful growth tactics from well-known startups. Join them for fun insights and innovative ideas that can drive your venture from zero to a billion!

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Mar 30, 2023 • 25min
OpenAI Launches The ChatGPT AppStore (#105)
Bing's market share is rising, while Google sees a slight decline. Discover how AI is reshaping business dynamics, leveling the playing field for employees, and creating new opportunities for small businesses. Learn about the impact of OpenAI's ChatGPT plugins, which are revolutionizing application development. The discussion includes how AI can transform corporate strategies, enhance customer experiences, and boost marketing effectiveness. Don't miss insights on leading with adaptability in an AI-driven world!

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Mar 28, 2023 • 42min
Why This Startup Founder Is Spending $0 On Paid Marketing with Ankur Nagpal (#104)
Ankur Nagpal, founder of Ocho Wealth and Teachable, shares his innovative approach to marketing without spending a dime. He emphasizes building personal brands within his team and the importance of storytelling in engaging customers. The discussion highlights navigating tax codes to enhance wealth, the shift towards equity ownership for creators, and the significance of genuine partnerships in marketing. With a humorous take on AI's role in financial advice, Ankur stresses the need for human touch in financial decisions.

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Mar 23, 2023 • 40min
GPT-4 Beta User Reveals What Jobs It Will Destroy In 2023 with Nathan Labenz (#103)
Nathan Labenz, founder and AI R&D lead at Waymark, shares his expertise on GPT-4 and its implications for 2023. He discusses AI's potential to disrupt job markets and the evolving nature of workforce dynamics, especially in recruitment. Labenz highlights the advancements in GPT-4, its impressive capabilities, and the need for skepticism regarding its accuracy. He paints a picture of a future where AI enhances productivity while cautioning about its limitations, particularly in creative fields.

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Mar 21, 2023 • 36min
GPT-4 Update: EVERYTHING You Need To Know (#102)
The podcast dives into the landmark launch of GPT-4, exploring its drastic effects on marketing and productivity. It likens this AI revolution to the advent of the iPhone, emphasizing its transformative capabilities in summarizing content and enhancing efficiency. The discussion highlights how AI tools are reshaping education, allowing for self-created learning courses and altering traditional business models. The hosts also explore the competitive landscape of AI, noting how companies are adapting to stay ahead in this rapidly evolving digital ecosystem.

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Mar 16, 2023 • 36min
How To Protect Your Business From GPT-4 in 2023 (#101)
The hosts dive into how businesses can defend themselves in an AI-driven world. They discuss the transformative implications of GPT-4 and the urgent need for companies to adapt. The conversation highlights the importance of defensible distribution strategies and the advantages smaller firms can leverage. Strategies for embracing AI as a competitive edge are explored, along with the role of community in distinguishing businesses. With tech advancing rapidly, being agile and investing wisely is crucial for staying relevant.

Mar 14, 2023 • 40min
How We Grew HubSpot From $10 Million to $1 Billion | HubSpot CMO (#100)
Discover the secrets behind HubSpot's meteoric rise from a $10 million startup to a billion-dollar powerhouse. The hosts dive into the birth of inbound marketing, emphasizing the power of educational content and thought leadership. They discuss pivotal moments and connections that shaped their paths and the importance of risk-taking in business. The conversation also tackles the innovator's dilemma, AI impact, and maintaining growth through product-led strategies and customer metrics. Prepare for invaluable insights to propel your own business forward!

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Mar 9, 2023 • 33min
OpenAI’s ‘Foundry’ Release Will Change Marketing Forever...
Artificial intelligence is set to revolutionize marketing strategies. The hosts break down the implications of OpenAI’s Foundry and how it will transform customer experiences. They discuss the need for businesses to adapt their marketing tactics, emphasizing the importance of personalization through AI. The conversation also touches on job displacement due to automation and the necessity for reskilling workers. Real-life examples highlight successful AI integration in brands, showcasing the future of customer engagement.

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Mar 7, 2023 • 30min
Timeless Marketing Advice from Seth Godin
Dive into timeless marketing wisdom that challenges conventional thinking. Discover why authenticity might be overrated and how emotions play a pivotal role in effective marketing. The hosts argue that failure is crucial for success and that simplicity beats complexity every time. Emphasizing a growth mindset, they discuss the importance of risk-taking while knowing when to pivot. Plus, the marketing landscape is evolving—marketers need to embrace change and learn continuously to stay ahead.