
Marketing Against The Grain
Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
Latest episodes

Mar 2, 2023 • 28min
How To Make $700 Million Selling Sparkling Water?
The podcast dives into how Liquid Death transformed sparkling water into a $100M business through bold branding and radical differentiation. Listeners learn about targeting niche audiences, the emotional weight of brand identities, and the importance of influencer partnerships. Strategies that use humor and pop culture to engage customers are examined, revealing how innovative marketing methods can reshape expectations in a crowded market. The discussion also touches on evolving consumer preferences and creative tactics that enhance brand loyalty.

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Feb 28, 2023 • 41min
How Lenny Rachitsky Makes +$500,000/Year As a Content Creator
Lenny Rachitsky, author of the insightful Lenny's Newsletter and former Airbnb growth lead, joins to explore the art of content creation. He discusses the crucial balance between quality and consistency in audience building, emphasizing the role of perseverance. Lenny shares his transition from writing to podcasting, highlighting the unique challenges each medium presents. He dives into navigating the world of content distribution while unpacking the risks of chasing viral success and the importance of personal branding. This conversation is a treasure trove for aspiring creators!

Feb 23, 2023 • 30min
Bing A.I. Search is Way More Advanced Than We Realized…
The podcast dives into the rapid evolution of AI in search, examining how Bing AI is reshaping personalized experiences. It discusses the surprising advancements of Bing compared to traditional engines and the implications for marketers. The hosts explore the challenges of AI-driven recommendation systems, including concerns around transparency and fairness. They also compare Microsoft and Google's approaches, highlighting how government regulations could influence the future of digital marketing. It's a critical listen for anyone looking to navigate the AI landscape.

Feb 21, 2023 • 36min
Ranking 2023's Top 6 Marketing Strategies
Explore the current drop in CPM costs and how it opens up fresh opportunities for online ad targeting. Delve into four major disruptions shaking up the marketing world, including privacy concerns and the shift towards direct creator collaborations. Discover why video marketing may not be the top priority right now, and learn how evolving consumer behaviors are reshaping marketing strategies. Gain insights on the critical importance of conversion rate optimization and the changing dynamics of event versus video marketing.

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Feb 16, 2023 • 41min
The Future Of A.I. Marketing w/ Jasper’s VP Of Marketing
In this engaging conversation, Meghan Keaney Anderson, VP of Marketing at Jasper AI, shares her extensive expertise in demand generation and product marketing. She discusses how generative AI can give marketers a competitive edge and outlines its transformative impact on content strategy. Meghan emphasizes the need for human oversight in AI-generated outputs while navigating customer preferences. The episode also critiques the balance between leveraging AI and maintaining quality, providing actionable insights for marketers seeking to embrace this technology.

Feb 14, 2023 • 15min
The Best & Worst Super Bowl Ads of 2023: Marketing Takeaways
The discussion dives into the staggering $7 million price tag for 30-second Super Bowl ads. A standout ad from Tubi is praised for its creativity, while some big-name commercials fall flat. The hosts emphasize the need for emotional connections in advertising, advocating for innovative marketing tactics over traditional methods. They highlight Rihanna's performance and its influence on brand visibility. Plus, listeners get recommendations for other podcasts that delve into financial and marketing strategies.

Feb 13, 2023 • 11min
The Next 5 Big YouTube Trends In 2023 | HubSpot’s CMO Predictions
Discover the top five predictions for YouTube in 2023, focusing on its growing influence among Gen Z. The rise of creators is reshaping digital marketing strategies, emphasizing the essential role of quality thumbnails and creator persistence. The potential growth of podcasts on YouTube presents exciting opportunities, while the platform solidifies its position in a video-centric society. Tune in for insights that could transform your marketing approach and capitalize on emerging trends!

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Feb 9, 2023 • 39min
EMERGENCY POD: The AI Wars - Has Google Already Lost?
Microsoft's latest AI announcements are shaking up the tech landscape, particularly in search with Bing. The intense rivalry with Google highlights their struggles and strategic shifts. Recent polls show user preferences are changing, and traditional advertising methods face challenges amidst these innovations. AI's role in sales processes promises a revolution in personalization. Marketers are urged to blend AI skills with human insight to thrive in this rapidly evolving environment.

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Feb 7, 2023 • 29min
The 7 “First Principles” Of Marketing
Discover powerful marketing principles that can elevate your business. Learn the necessity of a distribution plan before creation and how to be ten times more valuable than your competition. Emphasizing simplicity, the hosts discuss the importance of relevant messaging and the benefits of repetitive engagement. They delve into crafting marketing that resonates emotionally with audiences and highlight the need to address both recognized and unrecognized customer needs, showcasing innovative examples like the iPod and Airbnb.

Feb 2, 2023 • 10min
3 TikTok Predictions For 2023 & Beyond
Discover the crucial negotiations between TikTok and the U.S. government that could redefine the platform’s role in digital marketing. Learn why this is a game-changer for businesses and how to adapt your short-form content strategy. The discussion includes insights on optimizing content for TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram Reels, focusing on maximizing audience engagement. Tune in for actionable tips that can help propel your marketing efforts in a rapidly evolving social media landscape.