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Tune in to the Lab Coat Agents Podcast to explore the science of real estate with industry-leading agents and innovators. Hosted by Jeff Pfitzer alongside Tristan Ahumada and Nick Baldwin, this show delivers real-world strategies, from lead generation and AI tools to market shifts and mindset, with fresh episodes released weekly. Whether you’re new to real estate or a seasoned pro, this podcast equips you with practical insights to grow, adapt, and win.
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Jan 16, 2026 • 52min
AI, Mindset, and Market Shifts with Chris Heller Ep 294
Real estate veteran Chris Heller joins Nick Baldwin and Tristan Ahumada to break down the biggest shifts agents are feeling right now—policy pressure, changing market dynamics, and the rapid rise of AI in everyday workflows.
The conversation opens with a debate around proposals that would restrict institutional investors from buying single-family homes, and what that could mean for housing affordability, inventory, and the rental market.
Chris also shares how AI tools like Salesgo can help agents boost productivity and build confidence—but only when used the right way. The goal isn’t to replace relationships; it’s to create a smoother bridge to more real human conversations.
The episode wraps with practical reminders for agents in transition: protect your mindset, stay focused on lead generation (not admin distractions), and build a high-quality online presence that positions you as the hyperlocal authority in a noisy digital world.
Connect with Chris Heller:
https://www.facebook.com/hellersells/
https://www.instagram.com/chrishellerceo/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/place/
chris@thehellerteam.com
https://chrisheller.co/

Jan 12, 2026 • 51min
The 3Bs That Built Jeff Bray’s High-Volume Business in 3 Years Ep 293
Jeff Bray, a Florida-based agent who transitioned from corporate sales into real estate, joins Nick Baldwin and Tristan Ahumada to explain what drives business growth in a changing industry. The episode covers the market implications of the Compass and Anywhere merger and how consolidation may impact consumer choice, competition, and innovation.
Jeff shares the framework that helped him reach high production within his first three years, known as the “Three Bs” philosophy: Brand, Business, and Brave. He explains that a brand is not a logo but credibility and outlines why building a professional website should come before spending money on paid lead generation. Visibility plays a role, but trust is what drives conversion.
Jeff also outlines his approach to staying connected with past clients through consistent follow-up systems, simple tools, and localized gifting that feels personal rather than automated. These efforts lead to stronger relationships, repeat business, and referrals without relying on constant pursuit of new lead sources.
The episode emphasizes that agents who perform well long term operate as advisors rather than transactional salespeople. Professionalism builds trust, systems support consistency, and courage supports growth during periods of uncertainty. Technology can assist the process, but results ultimately come from showing up consistently and guiding clients with confidence.
Connect with Jeff Bray:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OasisGroupFL/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oasisgroupfl/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffandamandabrayrealtors/
Website: https://oasisgroupfl.com/

Jan 12, 2026 • 30min
How Client Events Replace Cold Calling (and Create Endless Referrals) Ep 292
Nick Baldwin, one of the founders of Lab Coat Agents (along with Tristan Ahumada), sits down with Matt Miale of the Miale Team and Livian to reveal how high-performing real estate teams leverage client events to generate repeat business, referrals, and long-term relationships. Without cold calling.
From intimate “drop-by” events to massive VIP experiences like Harvest Fest and minor league baseball takeovers, this episode breaks down the exact strategies, event types, and communication frameworks that turn your sphere of influence into consistent real estate opportunities. Learn how to plan events on any budget, secure sponsors, engage your database, and keep relationships strong while having fun.
If you’re a real estate agent or team leader looking to grow your business organically, this episode is packed with actionable insights, creative ideas, and proven systems to help you dominate your market and turn clients into lifelong advocates.
#RealEstateMarketing #ClientEvents #ReferralBusiness #LeadGeneration #LabCoatAgents

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Dec 22, 2025 • 51min
Trust Still Wins: Leo Pareja on What Tech Can’t Disrupt in Real Estate - Episode 291
Leo Pareja, CEO of eXp Realty and a former top-producing real estate agent, shares insights on the evolving real estate landscape. He highlights the importance of emotional intelligence over tech, noting that trust and personal connections drive client decisions. Leo emphasizes creating authentic content for consistent visibility and discusses practical strategies for reconnecting with past clients. Ultimately, he argues that sustainable success lies in hands-on relationship-building, reminding agents that technology amplifies but cannot replace the fundamental human touch.

Dec 9, 2025 • 44min
How Marina Built a Two-State Real Estate Business with One Niche Facebook Group - Episode 290
Marina Areola is a community-driven real estate professional who has built a dual-market business across South Carolina and Texas by centering her growth around people, culture, and emotional intelligence. Instead of relying solely on cold outreach or paid advertising, she focuses on creating trust-based ecosystems where conversations naturally turn into clients and long-term relationships.
Her lead generation model is built on Latina-focused Facebook communities, where she shows up consistently, educates, and connects in a way that feels aligned with her audience’s values and experiences. Offline, Marina extends those relationships through recurring in-person events and monthly gatherings that deepen trust, spark introductions, and generate steady referral business. For her, events aren’t just marketing—they’re a system for building genuine community around real estate.
Marina also brings an investor and flipper mindset to her work, using that perspective to sharpen how she advises clients on pricing, renovations, and long-term strategy. By understanding both the emotional and financial sides of each deal, she positions herself as an expert guide rather than just a transaction-focused agent—helping clients make smarter decisions in any market.
Recognizing where modern attention lives, Marina embraces platforms like TikTok and treats open houses as strategic visibility tools, especially when entering new markets. Short-form content, thoughtful storytelling, and well-run open houses become her accelerators for breaking into unfamiliar areas quickly and credibly. Together, her community-based lead generation, event-driven marketing, emotional intelligence, and investor mindset form a repeatable blueprint for agents who want to grow with both heart and strategy.
Connect with Marina:
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@investing.with.marina?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marina.arreola.982/
Chapters
00:00:00 – Intro, Fortnite Talk & Zillow Drops Climate Risk Scores
00:03:00 – Industries Least Affected by AI (ChatGPT’s Insight)
00:06:30 – Off-Market Listings Trend & MLS in Europe
00:08:00 – Real Estate Agent Value Beyond House Hunting
00:09:10 – Meet Marina Arellano: From GNC to 49 Closings in Year One
00:10:45 – Moving to Texas & Starting Over
00:11:40 – Facebook Groups as a Lead Source
00:13:00 – Group Growth Strategy & Event Planning
00:15:00 – Building Community with Local Businesses
00:16:30 – Staying Authentic & Getting Referrals Organically
00:18:20 – Shifting to Video Content & Social Media Confidence
00:20:00 – Group Engagement Without Being Salesy
00:21:30 – Keeping the Group Women-Only (and Why It Matters)
00:23:00 – Daily Workflow to Nurture the Group
00:24:30 – Using the Group for Email Capture & Newsletters
00:26:00 – Vision for 2026: Building a Micro-Team
00:27:00 – UTSA, School Balance & Planning on a Whiteboard
00:28:00 – Real Estate Investing: Strategy & Lessons Learned
00:30:00 – The Reality of Flipping Properties
00:31:30 – Future Group Ideas: Women Investors in Real Estate
00:32:30 – Content Strategy: TikTok vs Facebook Group
00:34:00 – Planning Monthly Events + Spa & Paint Night Examples
00:35:30 – Daily Schedule Breakdown & Lead Gen Routine
00:36:30 – Advice for New Agents Starting Over
00:38:00 – How to Get Business from Facebook Without Selling
00:39:30 – TikTok & YouTube Plans for More Exposure
00:41:00 – Overcoming Fear of Video & Going All In
00:42:00 – Closing Remarks & Where to Find Marina

Dec 3, 2025 • 45min
Episode 289 - The Popsicle Stick System: How Stacey Sauls Built 300 Deals a Year Using Only Sphere of Influence
In this episode, Tristan, Nick and Stacey Sauls break down the real conversations happening in real estate right now. They dig into Zillow’s ongoing legal issues, the rise of cash buyers in the lower-priced market, and how these shifts are changing the way agents compete in 2025.
Stacey gets honest about rebuilding after a slower year, why her sphere-of-influence has always been the heart of her business, and the new systems she’s putting in place to strengthen her next chapter. She also shares details on her upcoming “lasting legacy” program created for retiring agents who want to stay connected to their clients without staying in full production.
A grounded, insight-driven conversation with actionable takeaways for agents navigating today’s market.
KEY TOPICS:
Zillow’s RESPA/RICO lawsuit and transparency concerns
Cash buyers dominating homes under $100k
Rebuilding and restructuring after a production dip
Sphere-of-influence as a long-term business model
New systems to streamline operations
How the “lasting legacy” program supports retiring agents

Nov 26, 2025 • 38min
Episode 288 - How Jessica Lentz Runs a Three Hour Real Estate Workday With 30M to 40M in Annual Production
In this conversation with Jessica Lentz, a top real estate agent in Colorado, she reveals her secret to a productive three-hour workday while managing $30M to $40M annually. Jessica discusses her structured morning routine, the importance of daily client updates, and her innovative Monday email template. She sets clear boundaries, rarely works weekends, and explains her unique approach to buyer expectations and communication. With insights on lead generation and systems, Jessica showcases how agents can streamline their workload while maintaining high performance.

Nov 13, 2025 • 35min
Episode 287 - Real Estate Media Mastery: How Ken Pozek Built a $400M+ Florida Team & Leverages AI for Growth
In this new episode, Tristan Ahumada sits down with top Orlando real estate agent and media entrepreneur Ken Pozek of The Posek Group. Ken reveals the exact steps he took after relocating from Michigan into a brand-new market, how he built a massive digital presence and 50,000-strong newsletter base, and why media is now the hub of his strategy for listings, recruiting, and branding.
Key topics include:
Why Ken believes every agent should build a personal brand and how media makes everything else easier.
The state of the real estate market today and how top teams are shifting to systems, scripts, and accountability to outperform.
Ken’s multi-platform strategy: YouTube for long form, TikTok for reach, newsletters for past clients and sphere.
Testing and implementing AI, GEO-targeting, and ad retargeting on Meta to stay on top in a crowded market.
How Ken manages opportunity overload when you’re the one everyone wants to work with, and how he keeps focus without letting distractions grow.
Why old leads can outperform brand new ones, and how The Posek Group still mines their database for serious conversions.
What’s next for real estate marketing and why the “local media mayor” model might win 2-4% market share in a region, and how teams can play that game.
Whether you’re a solo agent, team lead, or marketing professional for real estate, this episode is loaded with insights you can apply today. From content creation to conversion systems to scaling with tech.
Tune in now and walk away with actionable ideas to build your brand, clean up your database, and integrate tech so you work smarter, not harder.

Nov 5, 2025 • 44min
Atlas, AI & IDX: What’s Reshaping Real Estate Right Now - EP 286 - Barry Jenkins
SUMMARY
This episode explores the intersection of automation and human connection: AI tools speeding up research, improving lead quality, and reducing operational load, paired with the growing need for empathy-based leadership. It covers changes in lead distribution, debates over PPC and Zillow’s new direction, and the importance of kindness and healthy confrontation in building stronger teams.
BULLETED HIGHLIGHTS
ChatGPT Atlas accelerates research, comp creation, and content output
AI raises lead-to-live-transfer conversion to 30–40%
Shift from new leads to AI-identified old leads
PPC and browser future remain uncertain
Zillow updates TOS and launches Zillow Pro IDX
Concerns over Compass expansion and fragmentation
Kindness and healthy confrontation elevated as leadership strengths

Aug 5, 2025 • 50min
Why Your Audience Doesn’t Trust You—And How to Fix It - EP 285 with Adam Ortman
Summary:
Real estate agents face more skepticism than ever—this episode explores how to rebuild trust through smarter marketing, consistent social media engagement, and genuine personal branding.
Highlights:
Actionable Insights
* Consumer psychology is critical in crafting long-term real estate marketing strategies.
* Negative buyer sentiment stems from over-competition and lack of personalized experience.
* Personal branding isn’t optional—it’s essential for trust and visibility.
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Tristan Ahumada and Nick Baldwin, founders of the Lab Coat Agents Facebook Group, Lab Coat Agents, the largest real estate-related community group on Facebook with 140,000 members and growing.
What Tristan and Nick bring to the table is unique. They both run top teams in their markets of Malibu, CA, and Clarkston, MI. They are investors and Team Leaders at Keller Williams Market Centers and have a combined sales volume of over a billion dollars.
Their focus is on internet lead generation and conversion by leveraging automation in their real estate businesses. They firmly believe leverage is the new hustle.
Tristan and Nick aren’t simply speakers who talk about what agents should be doing to grow their business. They are agents who are implementing what they teach and have the results to show it. They also consult multi-million and billion-dollar companies on real estate tech and understanding the real estate agent as a whole.
They both have families that they support. Tristan's wife is Janice and his two kids are Aliyah and Ansen, and Nick is married to Anne and has two kids, Levi & Gus.
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