
The Art of Selling Online Courses
The Art of Selling Online Courses is all about online courses. The goal of this podcast is to share winning strategies and secret hacks from top performers in the online course industry. We are interviewing successful business owners, asking them questions on how they got to the point where they are right now, and checking how their ideas can help you improve your online course!
Latest episodes

Jun 12, 2025 • 19min
How I 2x Revenue In 90 Days With These Emails
Send us a textIn this episode, I sit down with Dominik to answer the most common email marketing questions from our Instant Course Sales clients. You'll learn the exact email calendar structure that helps our clients double their revenue in 90 days, why too many value emails create "passive subscribers not buyers," and the soft opt-out strategy that reduces unsubscribes during promotions.Dominik also shares how often you can promote the same course without burning out your audience, and why promoting one course at a time converts better than site-wide discounts.If you're earning at least $1,500 monthly from your course business with an email list of 1,000+ subscribers, book a strategy call at datadrivenmarketing.co/callWant to build an email list that actually converts? Download our free guide: https://datadrivenmarketing.co/double

Jun 5, 2025 • 30min
Why High Opt-In Rates are KILLING Your Sales
Send us a text🔗 Get the exact lead magnet formula we used to generate $12 million at https://datadrivenmarketing.co/doubleIn this episode of The Art of Selling Online Courses, I sat down with Boris Mez from Data Driven Marketing to uncover the real secrets behind high-converting lead magnets and opt-in pages.We dive deep into why high opt-in rates might actually be KILLING your sales, how to go from 15% to 70% opt-in rates (and why that's not always the goal), and the backwards engineering approach that ensures your lead magnets actually convert to sales. Boris reveals the exact architecture of winning opt-in pages, including the "above the fold" section that they spend half their optimization time perfecting.You'll discover the 5 magic words that boost conversions instantly, why quiz funnels are dominating the market, and how one simple YouTube strategy helped a client make an extra $5,000 in just one month. We also break down common lead magnet mistakes that attract junk leads instead of high-quality buyers, and how to align your entire funnel for maximum revenue.Whether you're struggling with low conversion rates, building your first lead magnet, or want to optimize your existing funnels, this episode is packed with actionable strategies you can implement immediately.

May 29, 2025 • 21min
$67,500 in 15 Days with This Boring Funnel
Send us a text📧 Want direct help implementing this strategy? Email me at john@datadrivenmarketing.coIn this episode of The Art Of Selling Online Courses, I sit down with my brilliant funnel strategist Josip Belina to break down how we made one of our clients $67,000 from just a 7,000-person email list using a paid webinar funnel. Here's the kicker - nobody bought anything during the actual webinar, but we still got incredible results.Josip walks you through our entire strategy for this client, including why we charged people to attend the webinar, how we messed up the Zoom setup (and why it didn't matter), and the email sequence that did all the heavy lifting after the webinar ended. You'll see how we sold a $3,000 product without any sales calls and why sometimes a soft pitch works better than going hard.This case study is perfect if you're in a niche market or have a premium product that needs more than just a sales page to convert. Josip also shares who shouldn't try this approach and what list size you need to make it worthwhile.If you want the complete funnel map we used with links to all our resources, just drop me an email at john@datadrivenmarketing.co or message Josip at josip@datadrivenmarketing.co. And if you want our help implementing this for your business, reach out about working with us directly.🔗 Check out datadrivenmarketing.co/blog for more webinar strategies we've shared over the years.

May 22, 2025 • 32min
Alex Hormozi’s $100M Framework Will Transform Your Course Business (MUST USE)
Send us a text💰 Download the $100 Million Offer Workbook Template and my completed version: https://datadrivenmarketing.co/millionIn this episode of The Art of Selling Online Courses, I explain why most people read Alex Hormozi's $100 Million Offer book but never actually implement it.The problem? People try to do it all in one go, but it's actually a series of exercises you need to work through step by step.That's why I created a workbook that breaks down the entire process. I use this exact workbook every time I build a new offer for my business, filling out every section with my team.The results? Clients who actually do this work generally double their revenue within 90 days.In this episode, I walk through exactly how I filled out the workbook when creating my Instant Course Sales Program. You'll see my real answers and thought process for each section.I cover why the market is more important than the offer, how to identify your clients' dream outcome, the activation points that make people succeed, how to turn problems into solutions, and creating bonuses and guarantees that work.If you've been struggling to create offers that convert, this episode shows you exactly how to implement Hormozi's system properly.

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May 16, 2025 • 49min
From $5K to $15K/Month (Live Funnel Teardown)
In a live funnel teardown, a sensuality coach's transition from $5K to $15K monthly income is dissected. Discover why her vast Instagram following isn't translating into email subscribers. Learn how tweaking from a two-step to a one-step opt-in could double her list. Uncover revenue leaks in her tripwire funnel and how simple adjustments could boost it from $775 to $6K. Insights on leveraging social media, optimizing checkout pages, and fine-tuning promotional strategies are shared to supercharge engagement and sales.

May 8, 2025 • 42min
This New Email Marketing Strategy DOUBLED My Revenue
Send us a text🔗 Running a course business making $1k+ monthly? Email me at john@datadrivenmarketing.co for a free business review to identify your growth opportunities.Joe Armstrong (founder of 90 Day Korean and 90 Day Japanese) reveals how he doubled his previous best month's revenue using our email marketing strategies. We dive into the exact process that transformed his business, from ditching his "complicated, archaic" automated sequences to implementing strategic live promos. Joe gets super candid about the challenges that were holding his course business back - unresponsive email lists, confusing metrics, and poor checkout conversion. You'll hear how he increased his order bump conversion rate from a dismal 1% to a massive 40% with one simple product change. If you're running an online course and struggling with sales, this episode is packed with proven strategies you can implement right away - Joe did it all last-minute before Black Friday and still crushed it! I'm breaking down the exact Pain-Agitate-Solution email framework we use with all our clients to consistently boost sales and engagement.RetryClaude can make mistakes. Please double-check responses.🔗 Check out 90DayKorean: https://www.90daykorean.com/🔗 Check out Joe's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JoeArmstrongOfficial

May 1, 2025 • 48min
Meet the Artist Running a $2M Online Business
Send us a text🔗 FREE Customer Avatar Course: Email me at john@data-driven-marketing.co with "Customer Avatar" in the subject line and I'll send you our client-only course to help you understand your audience better.In this episode, I chat with Florence who built a $2M art course business from scratch. She shares her fascinating journey from being "just an intermediate" artist to creating nearly 200 courses and a membership bringing in $80K monthly. We dive into her Facebook ad strategy (spending $50K to make $55K in front-end sales), why her $150/month membership works so well, and how she discovered that "charging more gets you better customers." Florence is refreshingly honest about the struggles, sharing that "when something works is the worst moment to go take a vacation" and how she tests everything constantly. If you're building a course business or thinking about adding a membership, you don't want to miss this one.🔗 Check out Florence's website at https://www.wealthierartist.com/free-teach-online-training

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Apr 24, 2025 • 57min
SEO Jesus Made $40k In 1 Week With This Weird Funnel
Stuart Vickers, known as SEO Jesus, is a serial entrepreneur who transforms businesses with his digital expertise. In this engaging discussion, he reveals how he made $40k in just one week with unique sales funnels. Vickers explores the shift from service-based work to online courses, sharing strategies for audience engagement through YouTube and leveraging AI for quick landing page creation. He emphasizes the importance of email marketing, diverse offerings, and adapting to SEO trends, offering innovative insights for aspiring course creators.

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Apr 17, 2025 • 44min
The Funnel that Makes This Banjo Player $5,000/month
Jack Kowalski, a passionate banjo teacher, shares his inspiring journey of turning a hobby into a successful $5,000/month business with just 5,300 YouTube subscribers. He reveals his effective funnel strategy that boasts a remarkable 7% opt-in rate. Jack dives into the importance of vulnerability and connection with students, detailing how his $17 tripwire product significantly boosts his income. He also shares practical tips on audience engagement, email marketing, and optimizing YouTube content for growth, proving that a small audience can still lead to big wins in online teaching.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 27min
I Made Him $100K in 7 Days with This Funnel
Join funnel expert Josip Belina, known for transforming marketing strategies at Data Driven Marketing, as he shares the incredible story of a client who made $111,000 in just seven days. Discover the secrets behind a powerful email sequence that taps into gain, logic, and fear to turn curious subscribers into committed buyers. Josip also spills the tea on a 'controversial' cart extension tactic that boosts sales, alongside crafting engaging emails and compelling sales pages—all using a modest 27,000-person email list!