In this bonus episode, I'm talking with Courtland Allen, the founder of Indie Hackers. As I’ve shared a couple times over the last few months, my accelerator and community Unreal Collective was acquired by Smart Passive Income in January of this year.I wrote an article about the acquisition, and it got quite a bit of attention. One of the places it got shared was on Indie Hackers, a massive online community of nearly 30,000 people trying to build profitable side projects.It was originally shared by Rosie Sherry, the then-community manager for Indie Hackers. And the founder of Indie Hackers, Courtland Allen, left a really thoughtful comment on the piece too.Indie Hackers itself was once acquired by Stripe, and now Courtland works for Stripe while building the community full time. So we had a lot of common ground.In this episode, Cortland and I talk about the acquisition, earning a living as a creator, why I don’t really like Clubhouse, and how to build a community online.Courtland is an incredibly smart creator himself, and I’m excited to interview HIM on Creative Elements here soon.***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Amy Landino is the creator of the award-winning series AmyTV and author of the best-selling book Vlog Like a Boss; How to Kill It Online With Video Blogging. With nearly 400K YouTube subscribers and over 23 million views, Amy has empowered people from over 100 countries all over the world to go after the life they want. In this episode we talk about leveraging YouTube, building an audience, creating a persona, and how Routine has been at the center of her entire content journey.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #152: Paddy Galloway***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Lalese Stamps is a ceramicist and the founder of Lolly Lolly Ceramics, a small-scale ceramics production and design studio.Since undertaking a 100 day project at the end of 2019, Lolly Lolly Ceramics has grown to more than 100K followers on Instagram.In this episode we talk about Lalese’s start to ceramics, the process of making a mug, growing a large following overnight, brand partnerships, and how her tenacity has helped her to make the most out of her opportunities.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #130: Sarah Renae Clark***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Sarah McAllister is the Founder, Director and CEO of GoCleanCo, a widely sought after cleaning company in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The GoCleanCo Instagram account serves more than 1.8M followers today with cleaning hacks and tips.In this episode we talk about Sarah’s scrappy beginnings, how hard it was to even pay herself in the early days, accidentally selling out products on Amazon, and Sarah’s best advice for growing a following on Instagram.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #140: Maurizio Leo***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Last week, I was featured on the Smart Passive Income podcast.The SPI Podcast is one of the biggest shows in online business. The host, Pat Flynn, has been podcasting for nearly a decade, has published somewhere close to 2,000 episodes of his shows, and the SPI podcast has had more than 60 million downloads all time!Pat was on the show back in August of 2020 with his business partner, Matt Gartland. And the two of them spoke about the future of SPI, and how they were focused on growing the business through partnerships and acquisitions.Well, as you may or may not know, back in December 2020, SPI acquired one of my businesses – my accelerator and private community, Unreal Collective. And as a result, I now lead Community Experience for SPI.They’ve been wildly supportive and encouraging of my other projects, including my writing, this podcast, and Freelancing School.In fact, this episode with Pat on the SPI podcast is talking specifically about freelancing, and how I’m serving freelancers THROUGH Freelancing School.And at the end of this episode, I offer for listeners to save 25% on my Freelancing School courses using the code “SPI” at checkout. Save 25% on Freelancing SchoolTranscript and show notes can be found here***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs are the co-creators of Lemonada Media, a podcast network that shares the unfiltered version of the human experience.In 2015, Steph lost her brother, beloved comedian Harris Wittels, to a heroin overdose. And in 2017, Jess lost her newly-married brother Stefano Cordova, Jr. to a fentanyl overdose.In this episode we talk about creating Last Day, how Stephanie produces their narrative shows, how Jessica’s intuition led to creating Lemonada Media, and why creativity can help us express grief.Transcript and show notes can be found hereIf you or someone you know is struggling emotionally or feeling hopeless, it’s important to talk to someone about it now. In the show notes I’ve included resources for free, confidential conversations with a trained counselor anytime.National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255Crisis Text line: Text “Connect” to 741-741***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #119: Omar Zenhom***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Jordan Harbinger is a Wall Street lawyer turned podcast interviewer with an approachable style and knack for securing high-profile guests.His show, The Jordan Harbinger Show was selected as part of Apple’s “Best of 2018.” And today, the Jordan Harbinger Show generates more than 6 million downloads per month.In this episode, we talk about building strong relationships, effective sales strategies that people actually appreciate, being a great podcast host, and ALL of it really comes down to relationships.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #138: Chris Williamson***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Emily Clouse is a Los Angeles-based comedy writer and cartoonist who illustrates this show!Her work can be found in The Onion, The New Yorker, Reductress, McSweeney's, American Greetings and other, more unspeakable places.In this episode we talk about our childhood, her interest in drawing, moving to Chicago, Uganda, and LA, and why holding space to explore her interests have led her to pursue a career in comedy writing.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #39: Chris McAlister***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Alex Cattoni is a copywriter, marketer, and the founder of The Copy Posse, where she teaches people to become freelance copywriters.In 2017, Alex started her YouTube channel where she now has 75,000 subscribers and more than 1.5M views.In this episode we talk about Alex’s start at MindValley, her decision to freelance, the connection between marketing and copywriting, the massively successful launch of her coaching program, and why thinking about what she values has helped her push the boundaries of her comfort zone.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #95: Josh Hall***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify

Tim Urban is the writer of the blog Wait But Why. Tim writes about topics including artificial intelligence, brain-computer interfaces, alien life, the size of the universe, and more.His articles are often tens of thousands of words – the length of finished novels. The success of his blog has garnered millions of unique page views, thousands of patrons and famous fans like Elon Musk.In this episode we talk about the beginning of Wait But Why, his research and writing process, how Tim thinks about A+ work, and why he loves the struggle of writing online.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #2: James Clear***WHEN YOU'RE READY📬 Creator Science Newsletter🚀 Get CreatorHQ (creator operating system)🧪 Join The Lab (private membership community)🧞‍♂️ Get a Personalized Offer***CONNECT🐦 Connect on Twitter📸 Connect on Instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn📹 Subscribe on YouTube***SPONSORS💼 View all sponsors and offers***SAY THANKS💜 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts🟢 Leave a rating on Spotify