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#101: Arvid Kahl – From SaaS founder to full-time creator

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May 3, 2022

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Arvid Kahl

Arvid Kahl, creator of The Bootstrapped Founder and author, talks about his journey from co-founding the SaaS company FeedbackPanda to becoming a full-time creator. He shares insights on the challenges of transitioning from founder to creative work. Arvid discusses his unique strategies for Twitter growth and the differences between writing books and creating courses. His mission of empowerment and approaches to equitable pricing for online courses are particularly inspiring, making this a must-listen for aspiring creators.

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Feedback Panda Origin

Arvid Kahl built Feedback Panda, initially a tool to help his partner Danielle automate student feedback reports.
It quickly grew to 5,500 customers and $55,000 monthly recurring revenue before being sold.

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Purpose in Helping

Arvid found more purpose in helping users than in coding.
He discovered a passion for empowering others, shifting his focus from technical problem-solving to helping people realize their ambitions.

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MicroConf Opportunity

SureSwift Capital's acquisition of Feedback Panda led to a speaking opportunity at MicroConf Europe for Arvid.
This boosted his Twitter following significantly and increased his credibility within the indie hacker community.

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From Business Sale to Speaking Engagement: The Journey of Online Credibility

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Navigating Financial Freedom and New Opportunities

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Empowering Global Audiences Through Equitable Pricing

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Arvid Kahl is the creator of The Bootstrapped Founder. The Bootstrapped Founder is the home of his Twitter course Find your Following, the books Zero to Sold: How to Start, Run, and Sell a Bootstrapped Business and The Embedded Entrepreneur, which is an audience-driven book teaching you how to build an audience-driven business.

Previously, Arvid was the co-founder of FeedbackPanda, an online teacher productivity SaaS company, with my partner Danielle Simpson. FeedbackPanda was sold to SureSwift Capital in 2019.

In this episode, we talk about the start of FeedbackPanda, a speaking opportunity that opened up a new world for Arvid, the transition from founder to creator, his unconventional approach to Twitter, the difference between creating a course vs. books, and why he’s on a personal mission of Empowerment.

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