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Mentioned in 67 episodes

Finite and infinite games

Book • 1986

In this book, James P. Carse distinguishes between finite and infinite games.

Finite games are instrumental activities with clear rules, boundaries, and winners, such as sports, politics, and wars.

Infinite games, on the other hand, are authentic interactions that aim to continue the play, changing rules and boundaries as needed.

Carse explores how these concepts apply to various aspects of life, including culture, religion, sexuality, and self-discovery.

He argues that finite games offer wealth, status, and power, while infinite games provide something more subtle and grander, such as true freedom and endless possibility.

The book offers insights into how approaching life as either a finite or infinite game affects one's choices, satisfaction, and success.

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Mentioned in 67 episodes

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as one of their favorite books, explaining the core thesis of finite vs infinite games.

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in relation to business and life strategies.

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Mentioned by

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as the original author of the concept of finite and infinite games.

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Mentioned as a book that Patrick Collison and Toby recommended to

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as the author of the concept of finite and infinite games.

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in the context of a discussion about infinite games.

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when discussing finite vs. infinite games in the context of AI.

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Mentioned by

Graham Duncan

for its insights into different approaches to life and competition.

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as a book that encapsulates the concept of finite and infinite games.

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Mentioned by

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in the discussion about the meaning of life and different types of games.

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Mentioned by

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