
Creator Science
Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies and experiments you can apply to your business. Each episode features candid conversations with today’s top creators—like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez—sharing actionable insights to help you grow your audience, build trust, and boost your income.This isn’t just an interview podcast—it’s a deep dive into the business of content, hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse.It's growth for creators, down to a science.
Latest episodes

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Sep 7, 2021 • 1h 2min
#71: Steph Smith – Generating thousands of sales on Gumroad (with a side project!)
Steph Smith is a growth marketer, writer, and indie maker known for her books 'Doing Content Right' and 'Doing Time Right.' She shares her journey from chemical engineering to thriving in business, emphasizing the importance of persistence and continuous learning. Steph discusses her innovative pricing strategies that led to thousands of sales on Gumroad, her approach to balancing professional growth with personal learning, and the benefits of embracing transparency in creativity. Her insights on effective goal setting and SEO are particularly enlightening!

Sep 2, 2021 • 56min
[REPLAY] #51: Dickie Bush – Building an audience, product, and community in less than one year
Dickie Bush, a macro investor and creator of Ship 30 for 30, shares his journey in building a vibrant writing community. He discusses the transformative power of daily writing and how it fosters audience engagement. Dickie emphasizes the importance of feedback loops and creative experimentation in achieving rapid growth on platforms like Twitter. He also highlights the challenges of nurturing community and accountability among writers, showcasing innovative strategies to turn ideas into engaging content.

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Aug 31, 2021 • 1h 1min
[REPLAY] #35: David Perell – How "The Writing Guy" thinks about Twitter, education, and creating your own games
David Perell, a writer and podcaster known for his engaging insights on education and content creation, discusses the power of Twitter as a dynamic platform for sharing ideas. He sheds light on quitting traditional educational paths to forge your own creative journey, emphasizing the significance of community and mentorship. Perell also explores how writing fosters serendipity and the importance of striking a balance between consuming content and creating original work, all while demystifying the journey of becoming a successful creator in today’s digital world.

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Aug 24, 2021 • 53min
#70: Nick Huber – What online creators can learn from sweaty startups
Nick Huber, Founder of Sweaty Startup, shares his journey from college entrepreneur to successful business owner with over $20 million in self-storage assets. He discusses the importance of grassroots marketing and hands-on experience in launching a 'sweaty startup.' Huber emphasizes using Twitter to build a following, arguing it's accelerated his career dramatically. He also explores the growing demand for service-based businesses and the necessity of combining creativity with entrepreneurial skills for success in today’s economy.

Aug 19, 2021 • 49min
BONUS: Managing Creative Overwhelm with Nick Wignall on Minds & Mics
In this engaging discussion, psychologist and writer Nick Wignall shares his insights on managing creative overwhelm and burnout. He emphasizes the importance of self-care, balancing structured routines with spontaneous moments. The conversation dives into navigating the pressures of producing content while maintaining mental health, highlighting the art of empathetic listening and setting emotional boundaries. Nick's personal experiences illuminate the challenges of staying relevant in the creative sphere, making this a must-listen for anyone feeling overwhelmed.

Aug 17, 2021 • 1h 3min
#69: Jack Rhysider – 300,000 downloads per episode as an indie podcaster
Jack Rhysider, the mastermind behind Darknet Diaries, dives into the world of hacking and cybersecurity storytelling. He shares his journey from a security operations expert to a successful indie podcaster, achieving over 300,000 downloads per episode. Jack discusses his innovative production process, pivotal marketing strategies, and his decision to remain independent rather than joining a big network. He emphasizes the importance of crafting engaging narratives and building a loyal audience through authenticity and community support.

Aug 10, 2021 • 1h 2min
#68: Roberto Blake – The story behind 12 years, 531K+ subscribers, and nearly 35 million views on YouTube
In this discussion, Roberto Blake, founder of Awesome Creator Academy and YouTube sensation, shares his insights on building a robust creator economy. He details his journey from frustration to flourishing as a content creator, emphasizing the importance of diversifying income streams beyond YouTube. Roberto stresses adapting to audience demands while maintaining originality and highlights the vital role of owning an audience for long-term success. He also offers valuable advice for aspiring creators on turning passion into a sustainable career.

Aug 3, 2021 • 52min
#67: Gina Bianchini – Powering the business of community with Mighty Networks
Gina Bianchini, founder and CEO of Mighty Networks, empowers creators to build thriving online communities. She shares insights on transforming community dynamics within the creator economy, emphasizing the shift from traditional social media to sustainable membership models. Bianchini critiques Facebook Groups for fostering negativity, highlighting the success of communities like Yoga with Adriene that found a home on her platform. She advocates for smaller, engaged communities, revealing how genuine engagement leads to greater success and deeper connections.

Jul 27, 2021 • 51min
#66: Chris Sutherland – How a Physics professor built an audience of 2M+ followers on TikTok (in less than two years!)
Chris Sutherland, a former collegiate physics professor, shares his journey from academia to becoming a full-time content creator with over 2 million TikTok followers. He discusses how humor and teaching skills helped him engage with a younger audience. We learn about the differences between TikTok's rapid engagement and the slower growth on other platforms like YouTube. Chris also explores the evolving landscape of creator monetization, the delicate balance of short-term content strategies versus long-term branding, and what's next for him in the crypto space.

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Jul 20, 2021 • 1h 6min
#65: Austin Kleon – 10 years as a full-time writer and stealing like an artist
Austin Kleon, a New York Times bestselling author known for his illustrated works on creativity, dives into his journey as a full-time writer. He discusses how his book 'Newspaper Blackout' sparked the idea for 'Steal Like an Artist' and reflects on the importance of timing and initiative in creative endeavors. Austin shares insights on the self-publishing vs. traditional publishing debate, noting the evolving landscape for authors. He also emphasizes the value of personal joy over wealth, advocating for a unique definition of success in life and creativity.
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