

Creator Science
Jay Clouse
Creating content has never been easier—but breaking through the noise has gotten harder.
The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business.
Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income.
We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout.
Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content—from a place of curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business.
Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income.
We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout.
Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content—from a place of curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
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Oct 18, 2022 • 48min
#122: Pat Flynn and Matt Gartland – Courses, community, and the future of education
Pat Flynn, founder of Smart Passive Income and bestselling author, joins Matt Gartland, CEO of SPI, for an engaging discussion on the future of online education. They delve into the importance of community in enhancing learning experiences, the challenges and strategies of building online spaces, and the evolution towards cohort-based learning. Flynn emphasizes the necessity of teamwork in content creation and offers insights on hiring effectively. They also tackle misconceptions about saturated niches and reinventing newsletters to better engage audiences.

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Oct 11, 2022 • 1h 3min
#121: Bryan Harris – How this sales master grew his business $100K/month
Bryan Harris, the innovative Founder and CEO of Growth Tools, shares his journey from selling baseball cards to running a successful coaching service. He reveals his transformative pricing model that skyrocketed his monthly revenues by $100K and discusses how to create irresistible high-ticket offers. Listeners will learn about the importance of belief in one's business plan and essential strategies for client retention. Discover how Harris navigates the challenges of scaling personalized coaching and making compelling sales while maintaining motivation.

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Oct 4, 2022 • 50min
#120: Derek Sivers – How to Live as a Creator and Why You Should Focus Like a Monomaniac
Derek Sivers, a multifaceted musician and entrepreneur, shares his journey from founding CD Baby to writing insightful books like "How to Live." He discusses the profound benefits of monomaniacal focus, stressing that concentrating on one project leads to remarkable outcomes. Sivers also navigates the challenges of conflicting life philosophies, drawing parallels to an orchestra's harmony. He encourages creators to maintain balance between passion and financial stability, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing impactful projects.

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Sep 27, 2022 • 54min
#119: Omar Zenhom – Lessons from 200M downloads and 2000+ episodes of a daily podcast
Omar Zenhom, co-founder of The $100 MBA Show, shares his journey from a school teacher to the mastermind behind a podcast with over 200 million downloads. He discusses the importance of leveraging one’s strengths and the significance of consistency in content creation. Zenhom also reveals his effective strategies for podcast growth and sponsorships. He emphasizes the challenges of entrepreneurship and the necessity of community engagement. With insights on storytelling and nurturing listener relationships, he inspires aspiring podcasters to persevere in their creative endeavors.

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Sep 20, 2022 • 45min
#118: Sahil Bloom – Attracting 700,000 followers on Twitter by being consistent
Sahil Bloom, a writer, investor, and podcaster with a massive Twitter following, shares his journey of rapid growth and consistent content creation. He discusses how the pandemic reshaped his strategies and the importance of relationship-building in attracting followers. Sahil reflects on the balance between spontaneity and structure in content planning, revealing insights into overcoming negativity online. His passion for engaging with audiences is evident as he strategizes for future growth, including aspirations for video content and a book.

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Sep 13, 2022 • 55min
#117: Josh Spector – Driving action with a daily newsletter and providing Transformation for your audience
Josh Spector, a marketing consultant and writer behind the popular newsletter "For The Interested," shares insights into building a successful daily newsletter. He discusses the critical importance of email lists for creators and the transformative power of engaging content. Josh emphasizes the need to provide actionable value to readers while sensitively addressing their needs. He also reveals his evolving ad strategies and highlights how specific language can clarify the transformation offered to audiences, driving deeper engagement.

Sep 6, 2022 • 1h 4min
#116: Sara Dietschy – Algorithm Anxiety, Reinventing Yourself, and Advice for Small Tech YouTubers
Sara Dietschy, a popular YouTuber celebrated for her tech reviews and docu-series, dives into the challenges of content creation and the impact of algorithm anxiety. She shares her journey from 4,000 to over 800,000 subscribers, emphasizing the importance of community support. Sara discusses the complexities of launching physical products versus digital content and the emotional toll on creators. She also explores the role of personal reinvention in maintaining relevance and the significance of fostering genuine connections with her audience.

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Aug 30, 2022 • 51min
#115: Jason Sew Hoy of Supercast – How and why to create a premium podcast subscription
Jason Sew Hoy, co-founder and CEO of Supercast, shares insights into the booming world of premium podcasts. He reveals how Supercast enabled creators to earn significant revenue directly from listeners. Jason discusses why premium subscriptions are a smart move, the importance of creating engaging bonus content, and overcoming challenges like low conversion rates. He highlights the success of quick subscriber gains and effective audience engagement strategies, emphasizing experimentation as key to thriving in the creator economy.

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Aug 23, 2022 • 57min
#114: Kat Norton aka Miss Excel – Engineering virality and earning more than $100,000 in a single day
Kat Norton, known as Miss Excel, is a Microsoft Excel expert turned TikTok sensation. She shares her infectious journey of embracing 'messy action' to overcome self-doubt and create viral content that captivates over a million followers. Kat reveals how she earned more than $100,000 in a single day and the impact of positive energy on her viral success. She also addresses the role her pandemic experience played in launching her career in content creation, pushing boundaries, and transforming corporate challenges into creative opportunities.

Aug 22, 2022 • 9min
BONUS: Podcast Movement, newsletter rebrand, and more!
This special episode dives into insights from Podcast Movement, focusing on adapting audio shows for YouTube audiences. The speaker shares tips on balancing engaging content for new listeners while keeping existing fans connected. There’s an exciting rebranding journey as the Creative Companion newsletter transforms into Creator Science, emphasizing creativity through a scientific lens. The introduction of the Creator Science Lab membership community sparks curiosity and invites listener participation for future discussions.


