
Always Be Testing
Your guided tour of the world of growth, performance marketing, customer acquisition, paid media, and affiliate marketing.
We talk with industry experts and discuss experiments and their learnings in growth, marketing, and life.
Time to nerd out, check your biases at the door, and have some fun talking about data-driven growth and lessons learned!
Latest episodes

Jan 16, 2024 • 39min
#23 Fraud Protection in Affiliate Marketing, Kalen Bushe, VP Growth, TrafficGuard
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Kalen BusheHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Meet the Hosts00:47 Sales Background Insights01:44 B2B SaaS Growth Tips03:30 Marketing Benefits from Sales04:52 Focus on TrafficGuard06:31 Challenges in Ad Fraud08:36 User Journey Analysis10:55 Affiliate Marketing Transparency13:22 Cookie Stuffing Insights16:38 Lead Generation Fraud Issues22:08 Verifying Conversions with TrafficGuard30:04 Rugby Love and Connections

Jan 9, 2024 • 44min
#22 Navigating the Performance Marketing Agency Maze with David Rodnitzky, Founder, Agentic Shift and 3Q Digital
Tye interviews David Rodnitzky about his evolution in performance marketing, growing a successful marketing agency, building and buying back a business, memorable adventures with family, challenges and opportunities in the marketing landscape, and book recommendations.

Dec 19, 2023 • 50min
#21 Critical KPIs for DTC ECommerce Brands to Monitor, Jon Blair, Founder, Free to Grow CFO
Founder of Free to Grow CFO, Jon Blair, discusses the role of finance in scaling DTC brands, negotiating funding with Mark Cuban, collaboration between finance and marketing, measuring metrics for financial health, and personal interests in music.

Dec 12, 2023 • 33min
#20 B2B Affiliate Marketing Pro who built programs for Square, DocuSign, and Squarespace, Amy Crider, Principal Consultant, Parkside Consulting Group LLC
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Amy CriderHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction01:20 Amy's marketing insights02:31 Career journey unfolds04:08 Handling global accounts05:49 Balancing parenthood, career07:22 Utah Travel Tales08:16 Building affiliate relations10:18 Evolving marketing strategies13:34 B2B marketing deep dive17:37 Testing marketing strategies23:15 Prioritizing business improvements

Dec 5, 2023 • 41min
#19 The Evolution of Growth and Growth Teams, Patrick Moran, Head of Growth Marketing Robinhood, Reforge EIR, former Netflix, Spotify, Houzz
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Patrick MoranHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Podcast kickoff introduction00:49 Casual football discussion01:49 Patrick's marketing expertise03:06 Growth marketing evolution05:06 Challenges in multi-device ads07:01 Retention strategy insights09:59 Analyzing LTV and CAC13:10 Marketing and product synergy17:01 Budgeting for marketing impact22:01 Effective testing and ROI27:10 Creative content's crucial role32:40 Aligning expectations in management

Nov 28, 2023 • 55min
#18 The "Pied Piper" of DTC EComm, Rabah Rahil, CMO, FERMÀT
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Rabah RahilHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction00:48 Office vibes discussed01:35 E-commerce journey begins05:10 Insights on Instagram ads09:09 Scaling ad challenges15:08 Transparency in business20:24 Valuing individuality25:39 Affiliate marketing dynamics30:24 Startup and team culture35:25 Concept of living gaps44:27 Ad creativity explored53:06 Closing remarks and plugs

Nov 21, 2023 • 30min
#17 Ad Measurement Veteran, Andrew Covato, Founder of Growth by Science and formerly at Google, eBay, Facebook, Snapchat, and Netflix
Ad Measurement Veteran, Andrew Covato, shares insights on challenges in ad measurement and ROI measurement. They discuss the importance of incremental ROI and smart measurement choices, as well as the influence of Netflix's culture on their work approach. They also highlight the value of soliciting dissent and having a growth mindset in scientific research.

Nov 14, 2023 • 45min
#16 Are Your Ads Bringing Incremental Value? Dominic Williamson, Director of Marketing Strategy and Analytics at Instacart
Dominic Williamson, Director of Marketing Strategy and Analytics at Instacart, shares his expertise in analytics and strategy. They discuss the importance of geo level testing and the dynamic between finance and marketing. The significance of objectivity in marketing and finance collaboration is emphasized. They also talk about the value of open source models and building in-house. Factors to consider when counseling brands on marketing spend are discussed, as well as a fun football team and player discussion.

Nov 7, 2023 • 26min
#15 Former Lawyer turned Entrepreneur Building Fashion Tech to Scale, Nicole Phillips, CEO & Co-founder at Qatch
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and in life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Nicole PhillipsHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:00 Introduction 01:06 Introducing CATCH: AI-powered product recommendation platform06:42 Value proposition and inspiration behind CATCH09:18 Evolution of CATCH's platform and new features11:42 Building trust with customers and target audience14:43 Monetization strategies and successful brand partnerships16:24 Free to paid model and VIP option18:32 Data-driven approach and partnering with brands20:49 Challenges of building a technical product without expertise23:03 Personal interests and involvement in local organizations24:31 Sleepovers in haunted places and concluding remarks

Oct 31, 2023 • 55min
#14 Affiliate Marketing Veteran, Publisher Pro, and DJ to the Stars, George Yuhba, Director of Client Strategy at Paylode
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and in life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: George YuhbaHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction02:17 - Journey and Role of Affiliate Marketer George Yuhba05:33 - Paylode: Publisher Development Expertise09:27 - Affiliate Marketing Evolution Overview13:43 - Clearing Affiliate Marketing Misconceptions18:44 - Enhancing Affiliate Programs21:11 - George’s checklist of optimizations.;27:29 - Affiliate Marketing's Future Growth30:07 - Diversity in Affiliate Marketing37:44 - Key takeaways from experiences44:10 - “AHA” moments in experiment testing47:02 - Fun Facts about George Yuhba