
Marketing Against The Grain
Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
Latest episodes

Dec 26, 2023 • 13min
The 3 Ways To Get A CEO To Green Light High-Risk Marketing Ideas (#185)
CEOs often prioritize capturing demand, but marketing needs a boost in creativity and risk tolerance. The hosts discuss the importance of aligning the visions of CEOs and marketers for success in 2024. They outline three actionable strategies to bridge the gap between these two perspectives. Additionally, they examine how strong collaboration and accountability can help marketing leaders secure support for innovative initiatives. The conversation offers practical insights for CMOs aspiring to take on CEO roles.

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Dec 21, 2023 • 28min
Did Google Just Kill Email Marketing? (#184)
The podcast dives into the looming changes in email marketing regulations from Google and Yahoo, set to shake up outreach strategies. With spamming becoming a major concern, marketers must craft engaging content to ensure deliverability. The discussion highlights the dual role of AI in email creation while facing spam filters. Additionally, Google's updates prompt a reevaluation of approaches concerning subdomains and the shifting marketing landscape, pushing the need for brand awareness and inbound strategies as key focuses.

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Dec 19, 2023 • 46min
Brian Balfour Reveals How To Build An A+ Marketing Team From Scratch (#183)
Join Brian Balfour, Founder/CEO of Reforge and former VP of Growth at HubSpot, as he shares insights on building top-tier marketing teams. He discusses the vital need for customer-centric communication and aligning marketing strategies with customer problems. Brian touches on the challenges of hiring marketing leaders, the role of technology in managing teams, and the importance of empowering individuals within organizations. He also humorously recounts personal growth experiences, emphasizing the balance between innovative marketing and resource constraints.

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Dec 14, 2023 • 45min
How To Create A Winning Marketing Plan For 2024 (Masterclass) (#182)
Discover the secrets to crafting a winning marketing strategy for 2024. Learn how to prioritize customer needs and streamline your objectives for clarity and effectiveness. Explore the nuances of budgeting, advocating for a zero-based approach and optimal allocation between demand generation and brand spending. Delve into the advantages of flexible marketing cycles—balancing annual and two-year strategies. Plus, uncover how involving leadership early in the planning process can enhance alignment and buy-in.

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Dec 12, 2023 • 30min
Reviewing The Best AI Tools For Video Production (#181)
AI is reshaping the video production landscape, making content creation easier and more personalized. The hosts explore how innovative tools can transform images and text into captivating videos. They discuss the challenges of discerning real from AI-generated content and highlight successful applications in business training. The importance of strategic planning and creativity remains crucial, even as AI enhances efficiency. Zoom's AI for sales and the successful campaign featuring celebrity endorsements illustrate the exciting possibilities ahead.

Dec 7, 2023 • 31min
Google Launches Gemini AI (And It’s Better Than GPT-4)
Kieran and Kipp dive into the transformative impact of Google's Gemini AI on search. They explore its multimodal capabilities, blending text, images, and voice for a richer user experience. The hosts highlight the need for personalized search responses and how businesses must adapt their marketing strategies in this new landscape. They also discuss the challenges of integrating ads and the potential for innovative ad units. Lastly, they emphasize the importance of making information accessible and rebuilding trust among developers.

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Dec 5, 2023 • 43min
The 5 Biggest Marketing Opportunities For 2024 (#179)
Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam, seasoned marketers with a wealth of experience, delve into five pivotal marketing opportunities for 2024. They reveal the importance of aligning with your audience over mere brand recognition, emphasizing pre-awareness targeting for effective outreach. The duo discusses leveraging YouTube's vast potential through collaborations with mid-tier creators. They also highlight the need to diversify strategies beyond conversion campaigns, advocating for a balanced approach that fosters customer loyalty and long-term engagement.

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Nov 30, 2023 • 29min
3 Lies You’re Being Told About AI… (#178)
Explore how AI enhances rather than replaces creativity in marketing. Discover the shift from traditional SEO to engagement-focused strategies that prioritize compelling content. Learn about the importance of unique, personality-driven content in the AI era for deeper customer connections. The discussion also highlights AI's role in streamlining marketing processes, allowing for rapid prototyping and real-time feedback. Embrace these innovations to transform your marketing approach and foster meaningful engagement.

Nov 28, 2023 • 30min
The Best & Worst GPTs + How To Make Your Own (#177)
Explore the fascinating world of GPT technologies as hosts dive into OpenAI’s innovations and their impact on creativity and efficiency. Discover how custom GPTs can maintain unique voices for personalized content, like LinkedIn posts. The discussion highlights the potential of using APIs in podcasting, revealing how they enrich user experience. Plus, hear about the surprising creation of a website and the importance of data in enhancing GPT functionalities. Get ready for a glimpse into the future where AI becomes even more personalized and powerful!

Nov 21, 2023 • 31min
How Firing Sam Altman Triggered OpenAI’s Downfall (#176)
The chaos at OpenAI unfolds as 700 employees consider leaving with key figures following a controversial firing. The hosts humorously analyze leadership dynamics and the impact on startups. They discuss the urgent need for diversification in AI and the balancing act between altruism and capitalism. The potential for a merger with Anthropic raises questions about governance and transparency in tech. Tune in for insights on preparing for paradigm shifts and the importance of owning your narrative in a rapidly evolving landscape.