

Lunch Hour Legal Marketing
Legal Talk Network
Are you hungry for more clients? Tired of wasting time (and money) on marketing that doesn’t work? This podcast serves up real-world tips and proven digital marketing strategies that actually drive results for law firms.Hosted by Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam—two legal marketing pros who’ve been in the trenches. You’ll get practical advice on client acquisition, website teardowns, and what’s actually working for lawyers today—all with a touch of mirth.Congratulations, you found it—THE podcast for lawyers who want to grow their practice! So, if you’re ready to take your business to the next level, pull up a seat and dig in with Lunch Hour Legal Marketing.
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Aug 27, 2025 • 41min
Tasty Tactical Tidbits || Don’t Call It a Rebrand
Dive into a treasure trove of legal marketing insights! Unpack the impact of AffiniPay’s rebranding to '8am' and ponder the fine line between necessary changes and brand confusion. Explore effective community engagement tactics and the latest shifts in Google’s advertising strategies. Discover new metrics for success in legal marketing, along with the intricacies of AI and private equity’s role in the industry. Plus, learn why a consistent brand image is key to attracting clients in an ever-evolving digital landscape!

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 1min
Clio’s All-In with Scorpion – Who Gets Stung?
“Sole Preferred Partners”—does this new relationship mark a culture shift for Clio? Come for the puppy, stay for the hard-hitting analysis.
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Clio and Scorpion’s efforts to fill a perceived void between law practice management and marketing has led to the inception of their sole preferred partnership in the legal marketplace. Is this exclusive relationship a culturally dissonant move in Clio’s previously open ecosystem?
The guys question Harsha Chandra Shekar of Clio and Kirby Oscar of Scorpion on the details of this partnership and how their promise of deep integrations and data sharing will affect both clients and competing marketers in the legal space.
Afterward, Gyi and Conrad give their takes on the interview, discussing both its potential and their persisting concerns. Is this really the partnership that will lift all boats in the legal industry, or is it just promoting your competitor down the street?
The News:
A recently fired summer associate tastes the bitterness of life: Who Knew Biting Other Lawyers Was Frowned Upon? - Thinking Like a Lawyer
Google LSAs have been removing the trust/verification marks we worked so hard for—another ploy for cash?
Get ready, folks. AIO ads are coming to…everything. Google briefs brands on AI Mode ads ahead of Q4 rollout
Shocker! Google is pushing more Google: Google Search Indexing & Ranking Near Me Google Maps Results
The GLM Summit is coming right up. Conrad is a speaker, LHLM is recording live, and it’ll be a great time all the way ‘round!
And, come on down to the Kaleidoscope 2025 conference by Affinipay to hear from Gyi!
What, another conference plug? This one might be our favorite—the Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Summit takes place 9/22-24, and August 22nd is the absolute drop-dead date for the early bird discount. Sign up now!
Suggested LHLM Episodes:
HELP! My Marketing Agency Was Acquired — What You NEED To Know
Connect:
The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter!
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

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Jul 23, 2025 • 49min
Are You Thinking Long Term? – Empowering Your People & Building Legacy
Discover the power of investing in your team to drive long-term growth in law firms. The hosts delve into effective marketing strategies, including the impact of social media updates and Google’s local ranking changes. They discuss the significance of hiring skilled marketing personnel and the need for continual training. Long-term branding and community engagement are key for maintaining client loyalty. Plus, learn how robust data infrastructure can transform operations and support sustained success.

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Jul 10, 2025 • 43min
How to Rank with Google AI Mode
Explore how AI is reshaping content creation, demanding uniquely engaging and user-focused strategies. Discover the importance of E-E-A-T principles in enhancing an online legal presence. Gyi and Conrad discuss the impact of Google's latest algorithm updates and the challenges legal marketers face in adapting to a changing SEO landscape. Plus, learn about Clio's game-changing acquisition of vLex and crucial insights on navigating legal tech transformations. Stay ahead in the evolving digital world!

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Jun 25, 2025 • 45min
Big Money — Who Owns the Future of Law?
The discussion dives into the controversial rise of non-lawyer ownership in law firms, exploring the implications of venture capital and alternative business structures. The hosts address the fears lawyers have about big business intruding into their space. On a brighter note, they share strategies for creating standout content that satisfies Google’s SEO criteria while prioritizing user needs. They also touch on the transformative role of AI in legal marketing and highlight the emergence of free tools like AI-powered chatbots to aid legal firms.

Jun 24, 2025 • 1min
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing | Official Trailer
Hungry for more clients? Sick of spending time and money on marketing that goes nowhere? You’re in the right place.
Hosted by legal marketing veterans Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam, this channel dishes out real-world digital marketing strategies that actually work for law firms. From client acquisition hacks to website teardowns to what’s driving results today—nothing is off the table (except bad advice).
If you're a lawyer looking to grow your practice, consider this your go-to guide—with a side of sarcasm.If you're a lawyer looking to grow your practice, consider this your go-to guide—with a side of sarcasm.
Subscribe and join us every week for bite-sized insights with big-firm impact. Let’s grow your law firm—one lunch hour at a time.

Jun 11, 2025 • 36min
Stand Up to Stand Out
Is standing up for a cause you believe in a help or a hindrance to your business? The fear of losing clients who think/believe differently might keep you from publicly supporting the things you value, but is that actually good for your business (and you)?
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When it comes to support and activism, many professionals shy away from proclaiming anything that could narrow their market, but fine-tuning your appeal is exactly what you need to do to grow your business. Gyi and Conrad discuss why standing for something is much better than standing for nothing, and it even helps you position your brand in your market. If you’re perceived as a generic lawyer of no distinction, you’re going to have a tough time connecting with your community. Authenticity is good for business, and the guys share how leaning into your values can really help your law firm grow.
The News:
Our esteemed friend Eric Goldman wrote up a great piece on the latest court ruling on brand name conquesting: NJ Supreme Court Blesses Lawyers’ Competitive Keyword Ads (With a Baffling Caveat).
A new partnership between CallRail and RingCentral looks promising for all those involved. Here’s the deets: RingCentral | CallRail Integration
Well, we’ve had a good run. Zuck announces AI for ad management (to end Gyi and Conrad).
Don’t believe anything you see on the internet, kids. Nancy Mace’s Astroturfing is deceptive marketing at its worst—ick.
Register now for the Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Summit at the Bellagio in Vegas! We’ll kick things off on September 22nd. Hope to see all you in-house marketers there. Today, we’re announcing some of the great speakers and timely topics you can look forward to. Tune in for more details!
Suggested LHLM Episodes:
Google’s Search Monopoly in Jeopardy: This New Antitrust Ruling Changes Everything
What's in a Brand?
Connect:
The Bite - Lunch Hour Legal Marketing Newsletter!
Leave Us an Apple Review
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on YouTube
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing on TikTok

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Jun 4, 2025 • 48min
What’s In a Brand?
Dive into the fascinating world of legal branding! Discover what branding, positioning, and messaging mean for law firms. Learn how staying true to your identity can pave the way for success. The challenges of navigating AI's impact on the legal sector are explored, including ongoing lawsuits and reputation management. Plus, mark your calendars for an exclusive summit tailored for in-house legal marketers! From refreshing outdated branding to differentiating in a crowded market, this discussion is packed with insights for the legal profession.

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May 21, 2025 • 1h 8min
Ultimate LinkedIn Guide for Lawyers
Purna Virji, a principal consultant at LinkedIn and author, shares insights on crafting engaging content for lawyers on the platform. She discusses how easy it is to create impactful video and text posts with minimal time commitment. Tony Albrecht, known as the Yoda of LinkedIn lawyering, elaborates on the importance of authentic engagement and the surprising demand for genuine content. Together, they explore strategies for maximizing LinkedIn's potential to grow legal practices and how to make meaningful connections that resonate with your audience.

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May 7, 2025 • 37min
When to DIY & When to Call in the Pros — Mailbag Edition
Should you pay an agency for managing Google Local Service Ads? The hosts discuss the value and potential pitfalls of outsourcing this task. They also tackle whether in-house marketing teams can handle everything or if expert agencies are needed for key strategies. Listeners are introduced to the quirky case of a 'dragon lawyer,' asking if it's clever branding or just attention-seeking. Finally, the importance of collaboration between in-house teams and external professionals shines through, promising enhanced marketing effectiveness.