Season 5, Episode 4: The state of mobile programmatic advertising in 2025 (with Pan Katsukis)
Jan 22, 2025
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Pan Katsukis, CEO of Remerge and co-founder of Madvertise, shares his extensive insights into mobile programmatic advertising. He discusses the evolution of this space and dispels common misconceptions that advertisers have. Katsukis highlights the importance of adopting effective targeting techniques and managing budgets appropriately. He also dives into the challenges posed by Apple's App Tracking Transparency and the unique opportunities in non-gaming inventory. The convo is rich with strategies for advertisers navigating this dynamic landscape.
The evolution of mobile programmatic advertising highlights the need for advertisers to adapt to new targeting techniques post-IDFA loss.
Berlin's collaborative atmosphere fosters innovation in mobile ad tech, driving the emergence of startups that redefine performance advertising best practices.
Deep dives
The Evolution of Mobile Advertising
The mobile advertising landscape has experienced significant changes over the past few years, driven by major events such as COVID-19 and Apple's App Tracking Transparency (ATT) framework. As mobile usage continues to grow, the availability of programmatic inventory has also increased, with expectations of more than double the reach from 2020 to 2024. However, ATT has disrupted traditional targeting methods by removing the Identifier for Advertisers (IDFA), resulting in a shift away from iOS advertising towards Android platforms. Despite initial declines in iOS ad performance, a gradual recovery is underway as advertisers become more comfortable with no-ID inventory and techniques to optimize campaigns.
Berlin's Central Role in Ad Tech
Berlin has emerged as a pivotal hub for mobile advertising technology, fostering an ecosystem that has produced several key players in the space. The city is characterized by its collaborative atmosphere, where young entrepreneurs actively experiment with new technologies and methodologies to capture the evolving mobile market. Historical ties between various companies facilitated a culture of innovation and shared learning, which has significantly contributed to Berlin's stature as an ad tech center. This nurturing environment has enabled various startups to emerge and thrive, establishing best practices in performance advertising.
Programmatic Advertising Challenges and Misconceptions
Many advertisers approach programmatic advertising with a misconception that it is overly complex and difficult to navigate. While there are indeed numerous players involved and various strategies to consider, the channel offers unique levels of control and transparency when executed properly. The key is that advertisers can leverage existing relationships with attribution providers to streamline their entry into programmatic without extensive technical integration. Furthermore, by focusing on performance-based goals and utilizing insights from various data points, advertisers can efficiently optimize their programmatic campaigns without overwhelming complexity.
Future Trends and Consolidation in Programmatic
Looking ahead, the mobile programmatic landscape is expected to witness increased consolidation as companies seek to strengthen their market positions and expand service offerings. Many ad tech companies have achieved profitability, which could catalyze a wave of mergers and acquisitions as businesses look to acquire technology and scale. The growth of overall advertising budgets offers a promising environment for programmatic players, encouraging strategic partnerships and collaborative growth. As the tech landscape evolves, the adaptability of companies and their readiness to embrace emerging technologies will be critical for navigating the challenges of the post-ATT world.
In this episode of the podcast, I speak with Pan Katsukis, the CEO of Remerge, a mobile DSP. Our conversation centers around the state of mobile programmatic advertising. Among other things, we discuss:
How the mobile programmatic space has evolved in recent years;
The misconceptions that advertisers have about mobile programmatic;
The mistakes that advertisers make when they first explore programmatic;
The targeting techniques that you see advertisers have the most success with in programmatic;
The typical platform budget split with programmatic;
The type of non-gaming inventory that is available in the programmatic sphere;
Whether gaming companies can be successful in buying non-gaming inventory programmatically;
The measurement challenges with mobile programmatic?
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