
Some Work, All Play
Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
Latest episodes

43 snips
Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 36min
265. Western States 100 Failure, Being Human in Public, and Growing the Hard Way
The conversation kicks off with a raw reflection on a race failure at the Western States 100, touching on themes of shame, vulnerability, and the importance of community support. The hosts share emotional highs and lows, navigating the complexities of endurance racing and mental health. They highlight remarkable stories of perseverance from female runners and the exceptional customer service that helped during tough moments. Through humor and introspection, they emphasize that failure can be a powerful teacher, reminding listeners that personal growth often emerges from adversity.

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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 16min
264. Western States 100 Goals, Fears, and Dreams! Plus a Sports Science Study of the Decade!
It's race week for the Western States 100, and the excitement is palpable! The hosts reflect on their emotional journey and strategies leading up to this monumental event. They also dive into a groundbreaking sports science study with 99 authors, revealing low replicability rates that challenge how we interpret research. Personal stories highlight the transformation of fear into joy and the importance of community support. Inspirational anecdotes emphasize building belief, resilience, and the significance of celebrating both training and achievements.

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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 49min
263. "No Secrets" Q+A on Western States 100 Strategy, Climbing Faster, Passive Heat v. More Training, Weight Vest Use, Life Meaning, and More!
In a lively Q&A format, the hosts tackle diverse topics, from analyzing strategies for the Western States 100 race to personal motivations in endurance sports. They explore the science of passive heat training and its variations in response among athletes, while also sharing insights on using weight vests for performance enhancement. The discussion delves into balancing competition with self-acceptance, the cultural differences in running communities, and humorous anecdotes that enrich the joy of running. It's a mix of science, personal journeys, and community spirit!

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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 42min
262. Western States Pressure, Passive Heat and Hemoglobin, Using Downhills to Build Strength, New OTQ Standards, and Fueling To Take A Hit!
Excitement brews for the Western States race, blending humor and serious insights on training and social media pressures. A wild study reveals passive heat training with hot tubs boosts hemoglobin and performance. Downhill running emerges as a surprising strength builder for flat races, while athletes share impressive fueling strategies like consuming 185 grams of carbs per hour. Controversy arises over new Olympic trials standards, leaving gender inclusivity in question. The emotional journey of balancing competition with personal life adds depth to the conversation.

42 snips
Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 41min
261. Kilian's Western States Training Video, Jim Walmsley Isn't Racing (!), Weird Broccoli Sprouts Science, and A New Bicarb Gel!
Exciting news unfolds as Jim Walmsley withdraws from Western States, altering the landscape of ultrarunning. Meanwhile, Kilian Jornet shares training insights through a captivating video, reinforcing his status as the ultimate GOAT. Fascinating discussions on the health benefits of broccoli sprouts and a revolutionary bicarb gel add scientific flavor. A humorous dive into dark chocolate's impact on performance and the vital role of breathing techniques keeps the conversation lively. Tune in for insights on training challenges, nutrition innovations, and the unique dynamics of elite athletes.

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May 27, 2025 • 1h 47min
260. Why High Carb Fueling May Improve Body Composition, Controversial News, Weight Vest Warm-Ups, and Workout Intensity!
Discover how high carb fueling can improve body composition and heat adaptation, backed by a new study on athletes. Enjoy personal stories of camaraderie during injury recovery, and laugh along with topics like weighted vests enhancing running performance. The hosts tackle the emotional toll of vulnerability in sports, following a recent controversy in trail running. Tune in for humor, community insights, and personal anecdotes that blend fitness with the lighter side of life!

31 snips
May 20, 2025 • 1h 47min
259. High Carb on a Budget, Western States Uncertainty, How Ketones Might Enhance Recovery, Uphill Treadmill Guidelines, and "Depletion" Runs!
Dive into the world of athletic nutrition as experts break down the science of ketones and carbohydrates in recovery. Discover how high-carb fuel can be budget-friendly and effective, with surprising insights on pricing strategies of popular products. Enjoy lively discussions about heat training, overcoming injuries, and the emotional journey of ultra-running. Get practical tips on uphill treadmill workouts and the unique dynamics of depletion runs, all wrapped in humor and personal anecdotes. A must-listen for athletes and enthusiasts alike!

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May 13, 2025 • 1h 44min
258. Quad Rock 50 Mile Record and the Western States Moonshot! High Carb (150 g/hr), Big Hydration (1 L/hr), and Heat Breakthrough
Endurance sports are evolving, and the hosts share their exhilarating experiences at the Quad Rock 50 Mile race. They delve into high-carb fueling strategies, managing hydration, and the cutting-edge approach of heat training. From downhill running to prepping for big races, they offer practical tips while keeping the conversation light-hearted. They also discuss the role of data in performance analysis and the value of community support. Tune in for insights, laughter, and a glimpse into the competitive spirit that drives them forward!

33 snips
May 6, 2025 • 1h 45min
257. "No Secrets" Q+A on Extreme Carb Totals (200 g/hr!), Minimum Dose Heat Training, Sodium Intake, Speed for Ultras, and Hydration Sensors!
The hosts dive into the fascinating world of extreme carbohydrate intake with insights from a record-breaking triathlete consuming 200 grams of carbs per hour. They tackle the complexities of hydration technology, sharing humorous anecdotes about their experiences with biosensors. Listeners will also enjoy lighthearted discussions on training challenges, from heat suits to fueling strategies. They reflect on the importance of mental health in athletics and the joy found in both competition and community. Expect laughter, insights, and a dash of quirkiness!

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Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 34min
256. High Carb Domination, Steep Races and Vert, Heat Suit Guidelines, Increasing Stride Power, and Kilian’s Western States Prep!
Delve into the world of high-carb diets in endurance racing as the hosts discuss their transformation from optional to essential. They explore heat training insights, including the significance of hydration and mental strategies. Fascinating research reveals how temperature affects metabolism and performance. Personal anecdotes from the Canyons 100K emphasize the community spirit of grassroots racing, while tailored nutrition strategies shine a light on the different needs of male and female athletes. Plus, hilarious tales about race gear and the joy of running bring it all together!