
Some Work, All Play
Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!
Latest episodes

19 snips
Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 42min
262. Western States Pressure, Passive Heat and Hemoglobin, Using Downhills to Build Strength, New OTQ Standards, and Fueling To Take A Hit!
Excitement brews for the Western States race, blending humor and serious insights on training and social media pressures. A wild study reveals passive heat training with hot tubs boosts hemoglobin and performance. Downhill running emerges as a surprising strength builder for flat races, while athletes share impressive fueling strategies like consuming 185 grams of carbs per hour. Controversy arises over new Olympic trials standards, leaving gender inclusivity in question. The emotional journey of balancing competition with personal life adds depth to the conversation.

42 snips
Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 41min
261. Kilian's Western States Training Video, Jim Walmsley Isn't Racing (!), Weird Broccoli Sprouts Science, and A New Bicarb Gel!
Exciting news unfolds as Jim Walmsley withdraws from Western States, altering the landscape of ultrarunning. Meanwhile, Kilian Jornet shares training insights through a captivating video, reinforcing his status as the ultimate GOAT. Fascinating discussions on the health benefits of broccoli sprouts and a revolutionary bicarb gel add scientific flavor. A humorous dive into dark chocolate's impact on performance and the vital role of breathing techniques keeps the conversation lively. Tune in for insights on training challenges, nutrition innovations, and the unique dynamics of elite athletes.

30 snips
May 27, 2025 • 1h 47min
260. Why High Carb Fueling May Improve Body Composition, Controversial News, Weight Vest Warm-Ups, and Workout Intensity!
Discover how high carb fueling can improve body composition and heat adaptation, backed by a new study on athletes. Enjoy personal stories of camaraderie during injury recovery, and laugh along with topics like weighted vests enhancing running performance. The hosts tackle the emotional toll of vulnerability in sports, following a recent controversy in trail running. Tune in for humor, community insights, and personal anecdotes that blend fitness with the lighter side of life!

31 snips
May 20, 2025 • 1h 47min
259. High Carb on a Budget, Western States Uncertainty, How Ketones Might Enhance Recovery, Uphill Treadmill Guidelines, and "Depletion" Runs!
Dive into the world of athletic nutrition as experts break down the science of ketones and carbohydrates in recovery. Discover how high-carb fuel can be budget-friendly and effective, with surprising insights on pricing strategies of popular products. Enjoy lively discussions about heat training, overcoming injuries, and the emotional journey of ultra-running. Get practical tips on uphill treadmill workouts and the unique dynamics of depletion runs, all wrapped in humor and personal anecdotes. A must-listen for athletes and enthusiasts alike!

48 snips
May 13, 2025 • 1h 44min
258. Quad Rock 50 Mile Record and the Western States Moonshot! High Carb (150 g/hr), Big Hydration (1 L/hr), and Heat Breakthrough
Endurance sports are evolving, and the hosts share their exhilarating experiences at the Quad Rock 50 Mile race. They delve into high-carb fueling strategies, managing hydration, and the cutting-edge approach of heat training. From downhill running to prepping for big races, they offer practical tips while keeping the conversation light-hearted. They also discuss the role of data in performance analysis and the value of community support. Tune in for insights, laughter, and a glimpse into the competitive spirit that drives them forward!

33 snips
May 6, 2025 • 1h 45min
257. "No Secrets" Q+A on Extreme Carb Totals (200 g/hr!), Minimum Dose Heat Training, Sodium Intake, Speed for Ultras, and Hydration Sensors!
The hosts dive into the fascinating world of extreme carbohydrate intake with insights from a record-breaking triathlete consuming 200 grams of carbs per hour. They tackle the complexities of hydration technology, sharing humorous anecdotes about their experiences with biosensors. Listeners will also enjoy lighthearted discussions on training challenges, from heat suits to fueling strategies. They reflect on the importance of mental health in athletics and the joy found in both competition and community. Expect laughter, insights, and a dash of quirkiness!

33 snips
Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 34min
256. High Carb Domination, Steep Races and Vert, Heat Suit Guidelines, Increasing Stride Power, and Kilian’s Western States Prep!
Delve into the world of high-carb diets in endurance racing as the hosts discuss their transformation from optional to essential. They explore heat training insights, including the significance of hydration and mental strategies. Fascinating research reveals how temperature affects metabolism and performance. Personal anecdotes from the Canyons 100K emphasize the community spirit of grassroots racing, while tailored nutrition strategies shine a light on the different needs of male and female athletes. Plus, hilarious tales about race gear and the joy of running bring it all together!

26 snips
Apr 22, 2025 • 1h 44min
255. The Shocking Shoe Study That Changes Everything, Boston Marathon Reactions, Creatine for Endurance, and Resting Heart Rate!
Discover groundbreaking insights from a new study on Puma's R3 super-shoe, revealing a remarkable 3% improvement in running economy. Relive thrilling moments from the Boston Marathon, including a standout runner's inspiring performance. Dive into discussions on the quirks of nose strips, the evolution of marathon fueling strategies, and the dynamic impact of running gear. Enjoy hilarious anecdotes about unconventional recovery methods and the future of AI in coaching, while exploring the complexities of resting heart rates and innovative nutrition for endurance athletes!

43 snips
Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 40min
254. How Heat Training is Changing the Game, Protein Needs for Endurance, VO2 Max Numbers, Workout Success v. "Failure," and What Comes After Disaster!
Dive into the innovative world of heat training and its surprising benefits for endurance athletes. Discover how core temperature sensors are revolutionizing workout regimens and the role of protein in muscle adaptation. The hosts share humorous anecdotes about running techniques, hydration strategies, and even the ups and downs of parenting. They tackle the psychological aspects of training, the significance of VO2 max, and why embracing personal growth matters more than metrics. Get ready for lighthearted banter interspersed with valuable fitness insights!

44 snips
Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 39min
253. New Science on Protein Needs, Unbreakable 2, VO2 Max Estimates, Carb Loads, Torpedo Bats, and Cross Training Intensity!
This week, the hosts dive into groundbreaking research showing that endurance athletes may need more protein than previously thought. They also discuss the upcoming Unbreakable 2 documentary, reflecting on the evolution of sports and personal resilience. Discover the benefits of new fueling strategies like Tailwind High Carb, while also exploring how technology, such as Torpedo Bats, is transforming baseball. The conversation touches on overcoming the 'yips' in running, balancing intense training with life challenges, and innovative heat training strategies.