

The Best Ever CRE Show
Joe Fairless
Welcome to the Best Ever CRE Show, the world’s longest-running daily COMMERCIAL real estate podcast. Founded by Joe Fairless, a co-founder of Ashcroft Capital who went from buying $35,000 homes to controlling more than $2.7 billion in real estate assets, the Best Ever CRE Show provides commercial real estate expert insights, education, and timely information to our community of active and passive investors who want to build wealth, build a legacy, and do more good in the world.So if you want the real stories behind the good, the bad, and the worst ever deals — plus, insights into what really goes on in commercial real estate investing — you’re in the right place. Our hosts interview commercial real estate experts every day to uncover secrets and strategies YOU can use to become a better, more informed investor. This is the Best Ever CRE show.Join the Best Ever CommunityThe Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow.Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com
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May 4, 2025 • 32min
JF 3895: Interest Rates, Apartment Demand, and Operational Excellence
The podcast dives into insights from a meeting with top commercial real estate investors, addressing rising stagflation risks and their implications for apartment demand. Despite economic uncertainties, overall investor sentiment remains positive, with many planning to purchase in 2025. A key focus is the importance of strong operations, as experienced investors are expected to thrive while less seasoned counterparts may struggle. The conversation also highlights the need for adaptability in response to fluctuating interest rates and economic challenges.

May 3, 2025 • 27min
JF 3894: Building for Gen Z, Investing in Universities, and Housing Resilience ft. Gary Holloway Jr.
Gary Holloway Jr., CEO of GMH Communities, dives into the evolution of student housing, highlighting the shift from local syndications to large-scale developments. He discusses the significance of location and market dynamics in identifying investment opportunities, particularly in urban areas. Gary showcases GMH’s “Innovative Living” model, merging student and conventional housing while catering to emerging life science hubs. He emphasizes resilience in the student housing sector and the critical need for partnerships with experienced operators for future success.

May 2, 2025 • 23min
JF 3893: Market Trends, Fed Policy, and Cash Flow Plays ft. Neal Bawa
In this discussion, Neal Bawa, CEO and the 'mad scientist of multifamily,' shares insights from his live presentation at a major conference. He debates the Fed's economic strategies, noting that wage growth is outpacing rent growth. Neal expresses a bullish outlook on rent but remains cautious about cap rates and interest rates. He recommends targeting investment markets like Indianapolis, citing their strong rent growth and favorable tax conditions, while also emphasizing data-driven decision-making for real estate success.

May 1, 2025 • 1h 3min
JF 3892: Market Cycles, Predictable Cash Flow, and Building a Durable LP Portfolio ft. Jeremy Roll
On this episode of the Best Ever CRE Show, Pascal Wagner interviews Jeremy Roll, a full-time passive investor since 2002 with active investments in over 60 deals. They discuss how to strategically read market cycles, why Jeremy prioritizes predictability and cash flow over chasing high returns, and how his portfolio has evolved to favor asset classes like multifamily, mobile home parks, and senior living. Jeremy also shares his approach to cycle timing, his cautious stance since 2016, and specific tips for LPs to better vet sponsors and opportunities. This is a deep dive into patient, conservative investing and avoiding common LP pitfalls.
Jeremy Roll
-President
- Based in: Newport Beach, California
- Say hi to them at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-roll-655107
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Apr 30, 2025 • 37min
JF 3891: Resort Market Investing, Starting a Boutique Brokerage, and Retail Opportunities ft. Jaimee Keene
Jaimee Keene, founder of Peaks Commercial Real Estate, shares her fascinating journey from appraiser to broker in Colorado's resort markets. She discusses the intricacies of launching a boutique brokerage tailored to mountain towns and the significance of a generalist approach in real estate. Jaimee dives into the nuances of appraisals and the value of strong relationships with appraisers. Additionally, she highlights exciting value-add retail opportunities and strategies for building credibility in the competitive brokerage landscape.

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Apr 29, 2025 • 27min
JF 3890: Multifamily Development, Steel Construction, and DFW Market Trends ft. Phillips Wagner
On this episode of Best Ever CRE, Joe Cornwell interviews Phillips Wagner of Mill Street Partners. They dive into how Phillips is making ground-up multifamily and industrial development deals work in today’s challenging market, including creative land entitlement, vertical integration to control construction costs, and the use of steel framing to save on insurance and build times. They also discuss the importance of municipal incentives, the long-term outlook for DFW development, and advice for new developers looking to avoid common pitfalls.
Phillips Wagner
COO and Partner
Say hi to them at
https://millstreetpartnersllc.com/
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Apr 28, 2025 • 45min
JF 3889: AI In Acquisitions ft. Paul Hopkins, Perry Zheng, Lance Pederson and Bo Barron
On this episode of the Best Ever CRE Show, Joe Fairless interviews AI-savvy investors Paul Hopkins, Perry Zheng, Lance Pederson, and Bo Barron to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping commercial real estate acquisitions. The panel shares practical tools—like Google’s Notebook LM, ChatGPT, AI21, and Claude—and strategies for deal analysis, underwriting, parsing PDFs, and even creating custom GPTs to automate offering memorandum reviews. They discuss how AI streamlines market research, transforms spreadsheets into semantic data, and helps underwrite deals more accurately and efficiently, while also acknowledging its limits in replacing human decision-making and deal sourcing relationships.
Paul Hopkins
COO and Partner
https://cpicapital.ca/
Perry Zheng
Founder and CEO
https://www.cashflowportal.com/
Lance Pederson
CEO and Co-Founder
https://www.passiveadvantage.com/
Bo Barron
CEO
https://barroncommercial.com/
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Apr 27, 2025 • 32min
JF 3888: Midwest Rent Growth, Economic Uncertainty, and CRE Opportunities
On this episode of The Horizon, John discusses his takeaways from the conference he just attended, emphasizing the resilience of commercial real estate amidst economic uncertainty. He highlights positive investor sentiment, particularly around multifamily, medical office, and necessity-based retail assets, while noting caution about tariffs, stagflation risks, and global trade impacts. John also dives into demographic trends favoring long-term rental demand, especially among millennials, and stresses the Midwest’s emerging strength in rent growth and limited new supply compared to oversaturated Sunbelt markets.
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Apr 26, 2025 • 27min
JF 3887: Alaska Losses, West Virginia Wins, and Syndication Strategy ft. Stephen Predmore
On this episode of Best Ever CRE, Slocomb Reed interviews Stephen Predmore, an engineer-turned-investor and owner of Talbot Investments. Stephen shares his journey from small single-family rentals in Baltimore to JV, LP, and co-GP multifamily positions across the U.S. He highlights key lessons from a challenging 33-unit JV in Alaska and contrasts it with a more successful, nearby JV in West Virginia. Stephen also explains why he chose to syndicate a 54-unit North Carolina deal and discusses his current focus on capital raising, targeting senior engineers for investor relations as he continues scaling with trusted operators in red states.Stephen Predmore
Owner
Based in: Baltimore, Maryland
Say hi to them at
https://talbottinvestments.com
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Apr 25, 2025 • 1h 4min
JF 3886: Real Estate Matchmaking, Fund Building, and Office Flips ft. Lon Welsh
Lon Welsh, founder of Ironton Capital and a seasoned real estate investor, discusses his journey from house hacking to managing over $80 million in investments. He shares insights on the importance of investor matchmaking and the evolving landscape of office space, particularly through innovative renovations. Lon highlights opportunities in low-income housing and extended stay hospitality. The conversation also delves into strategic investment tactics and the potential for new construction in a competitive market.