
Marketing For Learning®
The only podcast in the world that’s going to help you better understand marketing for learning® fundamentals and help you tackle your learner engagement problem once and for all! Hosted by Ashley Hinchcliffe and Hannah Clark, this podcast comprises of short bursts of learning and insights to help you embrace marketing tactics, strategies and thinking.
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Latest episodes

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Jun 14, 2024 • 52min
Ep 86 - Could L&D Be Replaced By Comms? Dr Heidi Kirby & Loren Sanders Discuss
Industry experts Dr. Heidi Kirby and Loren Sanders debate whether Learning & Development can be replaced by communications. They discuss the importance of tailoring learning strategies, collaboration between departments, clear communication in compliance training, and bridging the gap between marketing and L&D for enhanced learning outcomes.

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Jun 7, 2024 • 51min
Ep 85 - How Would A Marketer Do L&D?
Exploring how marketers could revolutionize learning and development with a focus on user experience. Discussing parallels between marketing and learning, challenges with multiple platforms, and optimizing strategies for engagement and content based on data analytics.

May 31, 2024 • 15min
Ep 84 - Take Your Learning Hat Off
Han and Ash keep telling you to 'take your learning hat off'... but what on earth does that mean?! In this pod, Han dives right into what it means and how you can up the empathy with your target audience.
Short and sweet. Just like the pod host. Although that would more likely be short and sassy... whatevs.
LINKS:
Han's LinkedIn
Learner Persona Ebook

May 15, 2024 • 14min
Ep 83 - Is Learning at Work Week Worth It?
Delving into Learning at Work Week, hosts discuss its impact on learning professionals. They question the effectiveness of short-term marketing campaigns and advocate for strategic integration in reaching long-term goals.

May 8, 2024 • 17min
Ep 82 - Rethinking The VPC
We've spoken about the value proposition canvas (VPC) a few times on the pod. But in this ep, Han's shaking things up – and she thinks she's come up with the perfect VPC for L&D. One that's going to help you make real marketing magic. 🪄
LINKS:
Value Proposition Canvas Template
Han's LinkedIn Profile

Apr 11, 2024 • 40min
Ep 81 - People Experience With Josh Novelle, VP of People Experience & Insight at HSBC
People Experience roles are on the rise and L&D is in a constant state of shift. In this unique conversation Ash chats to Josh Novelle, VP of People Experience and Insight at HSBC to discuss the role of L&D in modern enterprises, and what we need to do to remain relevant and valuable to the businesses we service. What a crackin' conversation!
Josh's LinkedIn
Ashley's LinkedIn

Apr 2, 2024 • 14min
Ep 80 - Brand Hierarchies & Why You Need Them
Brand hierarchies (aka, brand architecture) are an essential element of marketing for learning®, and also grossly overlooked by you L&D folk. In this short episode Ash discusses what brand hierarchies are, why they're important and why it's absolutely critical to establish how all your corporate brands interplay with each other BEFORE you start big pieces of marketing work.
Save yourself a headache, start up those brand hierarchy discussions early and really understand what you can actually do from a branding perspective from the outset, instead of trying to figure it amidst a project!

Mar 25, 2024 • 38min
Ep 79 - The LPI Learning Survey 2024 with CLO Sarah Hatton
In this super juicy episode, Ash is joined by Sarah Hatton, Chief Learning Officer at The LPI, to discuss their recently released 2024 Learning Survey. Ash and Sarah discuss what’s changing in L&D, the direction of travel of our industry, and what we need to do to stay future focused.
Happy listening!
LINKS:
The LPI Learning Survey 2024
Sarah's LinkedIn
Ash's LinkedIn

Mar 15, 2024 • 16min
Ep 78 - Why Marketing Campaigns DO Work For L&D
Do marketing campaigns work for L&D? Well yeah, of course they do! But not everyone's convinced... In this podcast episode, Han sets the record straight on why campaigns are a great decision for all L&D teams.

Feb 16, 2024 • 14min
Ep 77 - The Importance Of Planning
We're about to get musical in this episode... or are we? Don't worry, this podcast won't subject you to Han's karaoke singing (even though she thinks she's great at it...) but she will be talking about the importance of HUM, SING, and SHOUT.
Using these 3 words, you'll translate your marketing for learning® strategy into a consistent, compelling and easy to use marketing plan. What more could you want?
Happy listening!
LINKS:
Han's LinkedIn Profile
How do create a learning campaign