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Jun 14, 2021 • 2h 40min

Crush It As A Plant-Based Athlete: Matt Frazier & Robert Cheeke

How can you possibly excel as an athlete on a plant-based diet? Where do you get your protein? Don’t you need meat to be fit?If you’re a long-time whole food, plant-based enthusiast, chances are you’ve been asked these questions more times than you can count. For the rest of you, let’s put these questions to the test.My comrades for this inquiry are friends Matt Frazier & Robert Cheeke, here to testify on how to absolutely kick ass and take names as a plant-based athlete.The occasion for this conversation is the publication of Matt & Robert’s aptly titled new book, The Plant-Based Athlete—the ultimate primer on maxing peak performance the plant-based way, a drum you I’ve been beating for years.Long-time listeners will remember Matt from from RRP 54 in the early days of the podcast. A plant-based marathoner and ultrarunner, he’s the man behind everything NoMeatAthlete.com—the wildly popular community, blog, books, and podcast.Making his first and long overdue appearance on the show, Robert is a former champion vegan bodybuilder, public speaker, founder of Vegan Bodybuilding & Fitness, and a solid dude who’s been crushing it on nothing but plants for more than 25 years.Today, Matt and Robert bust myths and break down the basics of plant-based performance. We talk about optimizing athleticism from strength training to endurance. We discuss proper fueling and recovery techniques. We get into responsible supplementation, balancing macros, enhancing micronutrient intake, and the importance diversifying your microbiome. Plus, we dive into the latest science and research behind why plants reign supreme when it comes to peak gains.Of course, we also bust some common myths, including the big one: where do you get your protein?Whether you’re seeking to break a strength plateau, hit a PR, compete in your first ultra event, or simply lose a few, shape up and feel better—this is the intensive, in-depth, masterclass on plant-based performance you’ve been waiting for.And it might just change your life.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll608YouTube: bit.ly/frazierandcheeke608It was a blast hosting these awesome humans and long-time friends. I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange.Peace + Plants,Rich
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Jun 10, 2021 • 1h 23min

Guru Singh On Our Addiction To 'Normal'

It's been over a year since we dipped our toes in the rippling currents of the spiritual deep end.To make amends for this grievous and much delayed pause, today marks the the welcome return of my favorite wizard and sparring partner when it comes to matters mystical, Guru Singh —here to resuscitate another round of Guru Multiverse.The master of the Kundalini arts, now presiding over Kundalini University, Guru Singh has paid many a visit to this show. For those newer to the podcast, Guru Singh is a celebrated master spiritual teacher, third-generation Sikh yogi, author, accomplished musician, father, grandfather, and gift to humanity at large who has been teaching and studying Kundalini yoga for the past 40-plus years.Our last get-together focused on navigating grief. Today we extend and apply that theme to aid in processing this most unusual year.We discuss our addiction to the idea of normalcy. We explore the idea of a 'global reset' — the personal and planetary growth opportunity in the wake of what we have collectively weathered. And we weigh the pros and cons of incremental versus revolutionary change.Make sure to stick around to the end. As has become his custom, Guru Singh takes it out with a song.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll607YouTube: bit.ly/gurusingh607It's great to be back with my wise friend. I sincerely hope you enjoy this exchange.Peace + Plants,Rich
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Jun 7, 2021 • 1h 29min

Dr. Andrew Weil Is The Medical Mystic

The godfather of integrative medicine and a true pioneer of health, today’s guest is a legend in the realm of mind-body healing.Meet Dr. Andrew Weil.Named one of the 100 most influential people in the world by TIME Magazine (among a zillion other accolades), Dr. Weil is a New York Times bestselling author of 15 books, the founder and director of the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona, and a man who’s spent the last 50+ years studying and evangelizing holistic wellness, under-appreciated healing modalities, medicinal plants, and the reform of medical education.As an entrepreneur, he is the founder of matcha tea brand Matcha Kari and a partner in True Food Kitchen, a chain of healthy food restaurants located all across the U.S.Dr. Weil has occupied a space in my consciousness for as long as I can remember. However, it wasn’t until I read Michael Pollan’s book How To Change Your Mind that I began to more fully appreciate the vast extent to which Dr. Weill has served as integrative medicine’s greatest pioneer.the legacy of integrative medicine can be traced to Dr. Weil’s breadth of this man’s contribution to introducing and mainstreaming so many ideas and practices he has been advocating since the 70’s.A long-time advocate of simple practices like breath work and healthy eating decades prior to it being vogue, Dr. Weil’s storied legacy also includes the evidence-based study of clinical applications for psychedelics, and marijuana. The nutritional properties of mushrooms. And the advisability of a variety of other alternative healing modalities that, back in the day, were considered anathema and ridiculed by the medical establishment.Simply put, integrative medicine would exist as it does today without the path courageously blazed by Dr. Weil.Today we explore this man’s extraordinary life. Counter-culture days at Harvard. And his convictions as a healer.We talk psychedelics, funghi, food and breath—and the best practices you can adopt to sidestep chronic lifestyle disease and thrive.We also explore what’s wrong with medical education. How to change it. And his quest to completely reinvent health care.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll606YouTube: bit.ly/andrewweil606This was a fun one. I learned a ton, and I know you will too.Final note: Dr. Weil was gracious enough to offer all of you a 15% discount on his Matcha Kari matcha tea. Let it be known this is not a sponsored thing, he’s just being a mensch. To avail yourself of this act of kindness visit matcha.com and use code RICH15 at checkout.This is a glorious conversation with one of the most wildly fascinating individuals of our time. I was honored to host it and more proud to share it.Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 31, 2021 • 2h 25min

Olympian Katie Hoff On Embracing The Suck & Alchemizing Pain Into Gratitude

We all create imagined blueprints for how we want our lives to unfold—but what happens when things don’t go according to plan?Today’s guest knows a thing or two about managing pressure, prioritizing intention over expectation, and transforming disappointment into gratitude.Meet Olympic swimmer Katie Hoff.Dubbed, for better or worse, ‘the female Michael Phelps’ Katie is an 8x world champion that made her first Olympic Team at the ripe age of 15, the youngest member of the 2004 USA Swimming Team. She won 5 first place Olympic berths at the 2008 Olympic Trials, took home 3 medals in Beijing, and over the course of her career toppled more than a few American & international records, accruing 8 world championship titles along the way.But Katie’s story isn’t what you think it is. It’s not some totally unrelatable Olympic fairy tale, filled with empty platitudes and cliché mottos.It’s a story about not living up to the expectations the world set for you.What’s most interesting about Katie is that she’s an athlete that should have had a far more decorated career.So what happened?Today we explore her storied career, covering the complicated mental and emotional implications of elite performance, as well as the external forces beyond an athlete’s control.We dissect the vertigo-inducing success Katie experienced at such a young age. The insane pressure she faced that accompanied high highs, the bitter disappointment she experienced by failing to live up to unreal and unfair expectations, and the process of picking up the pieces and moving forward with life in the wake of dreams unrealized. And of course, the valuable and applicable life lessons extrapolated along the way, which she chronicles in her book, Blueprint: An Olympian’s Story of Striving, Adapting, and Embracing The Suck.Katie is an absolute delight and our exchange is littered with gems—big ideas on managing stress, expectations, and knowing when and how to push your limits.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll605YouTube: bit.ly/katiehoff605This was a fun one. I learned a ton, and I know you will too.Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 27, 2021 • 2h 20min

Roll On: Why Balance Is Overrated

Striving to achieve a ‘balanced life’ on a daily basis sets you up for failure. Approach it instead from a long-term perspective. Aim for self-awareness. Go all-in on what lights you up. Along the way, be gentle with yourself.We are here to follow our curiosity, not mercilessly judge ourselves. Awareness is key. Shame is counterproductive.Welcome to another edition of ‘Roll On’, wherein myself and Lord of the podcast manor Adam Skolnick wane and wax on philosophical, spiritual, and practical ideas both big and small. Beyond bantering sundry matters of varying interest, we play show and tell, share a few wins of the week, and round it out by answering listener questions deposited on our voicemail at (424) 235-4626.Beyond RRP hype-man duties, Adam Skolnick is an activist and journalist best known as David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me, co-author. He writes about adventure sports, environmental issues, and civil rights for The New York Times, Outside, ESPN, BBC, and Men’s Health. He is the author of One Breath and is currently awash in his umpteenth draft of an untitled novel—slowly losing his mind in the process.Topics explored in today’s conversation include: the ultramarathon tragedy in China and why there must be better protocols and oversight in this growing sport; thoughts on Adam Grant’s recent NYT article, There’s a Name for the Blah You’re Feeling: It’s Called Languishing; Rich’s current approach to writing, motivation, and why balance is overrated; SriMu’s Father’s Day Special, 10% off not-cheese boxes for all hard-working dads; Hellah Sidibe’s impressive, history making ultra-run across the United States; an update on the Iron Cowboy’s history-making Conquer 100; Van Neistat’s The Spirited Man series on YouTube; the Malcolm Gladwell vs. Chris Chavez journalist / influencer 1-mile challenge; and the legacy of Duke Kahanamoku In addition, we answer the following listener questions: How do you create time to care for yourself without disappointing others? How do you avoid late-night hunger pangs following a day of rigorous training? What is the best way to transition from road to trail running? Thank you to Sierra (or Ciara) from Kalamazoo, Michigan, Kevin from Northern California, and Ben from Columbus, Ohio for your questions. If you want your query discussed, drop it on our Facebook Page or better yet leave a voicemail at (424) 235-4626.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll604YouTube: bit.ly/rollon604Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 24, 2021 • 2h 9min

Light Watkins: Doing The Work Is The Shortcut

How do you find purpose? What does it mean to live with intention? And why is it important to cultivate stillness?These questions are important. The answers are tricky. To solve these riddles to the human dilemma, you have to know where to look.Knowing Where To Look also happens to be the title of Light Watkins’ new book. Is it a sign or coincidence? The answer is up to you.In addition to being a good friend, a beautiful incarnation of the human form, a nomadic minimalist, and expert meditation and spiritual teacher, Light is also a prolific public speaker and the founder of The Shine (a groovy TED meets Self-Realization love child event series) and the author of three books: The Inner Gym, Bliss More, and of course, his latest work and the focus of our gathering, Knowing Where To Look.My third microphone communion with Light begins with a dive into his adventures in minimalism (every single thing he owns fits into a single carry-on bag) and what it’s like being a 50-year old ex-pat nomad living in Mexico City. We also touch on his experiences in meditation and mindfulness, and the impact of his activism on issues related to racial injustice.But mainly we focus on things like the power of kindness, the importance of patience and reflection, how to cultivate intuition, and how to have the courage to trust it.In a nutshell, this conversation is about how to put faith into action, and why the aspirational life is built upon a foundation of small gestures—tiny actions undertaken every day, every hour, every moment.If you’re new to the force of love that is Light Watkins, I suggest tuning up our earlier conversations, RRP #172 and RRP #357. Check him out in my book Voicing Change, which you can find here. Listen to his podcast At the End of The Tunnel and of course, pick up his new book, the choose-your-own-adventure style of daily inspiration that is Knowing Where To Look.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll603YouTube: bit.ly/lightwatkins603Light Watkins is one of my most favorite beings. My hope is that this conversation helps you find what you’re looking for.Light Watkins is one of my most favorite beings. May this conversation be a tuning fork for your gaze—and lead you closer towards what you’re looking for.Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 17, 2021 • 2h 3min

Brogan Graham Is A Friend Hunter

Meet Brogan Graham. Fitness fanatic. Extreme extrovert. Style icon. Force of Nature. Cool dad. Loyal friend and overall stellar human being.These are just a few of many labels I would pin to BG’s chest.An exceptional host during my April visit to Minneapolis (the whole thing was his idea), Brogan is the co-founder of November Project, a free and frenetic, open-to-anyone, grassroots sweat revival—a flashmob fitness revolution that counts over 250,000 lifetime members and dominates the pre-dawn urban landscape of 52 cities and nine countries spread across North America, Europe, the United Kingdom and even parts of Asia. Leveraging community, a simple sense of accountability, and open public spaces, the November Project motivates people of all ages, shapes, sizes and levels to move their bodies—welcoming everyone from Olympic medalists and professional athletes to complete fitness rookies and recent couch potatoes.Today’s conversation traverses many landscapes with a unique flair that can only be described as unapologetically Brogan-esque.Chronologically the first conversation recorded during my time in Minneapolis, we digest lessons delivered by a city and citizenship under duress—and why it’s necessary to never stop learning.We talk ‘dadding’, training, perfectionism, friendship, and the importance of getting outside your comfort zone—not just in the context of fitness but in all aspects of life.But the overall theme of this discussion is cultivating inclusivity. Why the path forward demands resisting the impulse to call people out. Instead, let’s call people in.As I’m fond of saying, prophets walk among us. Brogan isn’t just one such everyman prophet. He understands that to find these people, you need to always be on the hunt. You need to take swings at bat. You need to always be expanding your circle. And you need to develop the habit of reaching out to others, embracing your neighbors, and contributing to your community.This reflex begins with one simple word: hello.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll602YouTube: bit.ly/brogangraham602I urge all of you to absorb this conversation in its entirety. Whip out your pen and paper—this is essential, potentially life-altering listening for every human. And simply put, it’s everything I hoped it would be.Brogan is a beautiful dude. I wish he lived in Los Angeles. But I’ll take him however I can get him.May his words inspire you to reach out to someone new today.P.S. – This is Brogan’s second spin on the RRP flywheel. If you enjoy today’s episode then dig up his first appearance four years prior in RRP 277.P.P.S. – Special thanks to talented Minneapolis visual artists Bennie Wilson and Jordan Lundell for photographing today’s podcast.Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 13, 2021 • 2h 17min

Roll On: Why You Should Periodize Your Life

We live in a culture that glorifies the hustle. But the 24/7 grind mentality is actually anathema to long-term success. How do we break this paradigm and avoid the inevitability of burnout?You periodize your life as you would your training. Ditch the guilt and take time to rest. Choose your fallow chapters. And embrace your life in seasons.In the race of life, the tortoise always beats the hare.Welcome to another edition of ‘Roll On’, wherein myself and Sir Adam Skolnick corrupt your neurochemistry with ideas big and small. Beyond sundry matters of varying interest, we play show and tell, share a few wins of the week, round it out by answering listener questions deposited on our voicemail at (424) 235-4626.Beyond RRP hypeman duties, Adam Skolnick is an activist and journalist best known as David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me, co-author. He writes about adventure sports, environmental issues, and civil rights for The New York Times, Outside, ESPN, BBC, and Men’s Health. He is the author of One Breath and is currently awash in his umpteenth draft of an untitled novel—slowly losing his mind in the process.Topics explored in today’s conversation include: the benefits of periodizing both your fitness and all aspects of your life; why fallow periods are essential to optimal creativity; an Iron Cowboy’s ‘Conquer 100‘ challenge update (and WTC’s tone-deaf response); the recent Laird Superfoods and Picky Bar acquisition; the HBO docuseries ‘Q: Into The Storm’; Rachel Kushner’s collection of essays, The Hard Crowd; Michelin star restaurant Eleven Madison Park‘s shift to a plant-based menu; and plant-based bodega start-up Plantega’s plan to eradicate food deserts In addition, we answer the following listener questions: How do you manage the financial risks that come with following your passion? How do you properly train for a Swimrun event without access to safe open water? How do you maintain relationships with people who have unhealthy drinking habits? Thank you to Greg from Virginia, John from Northern England, and Nancy from Santa Clarita, California for your questions. If you want your query discussed, drop it on our Facebook Page or better yet leave a voicemail at (424) 235-4626.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll601YouTube: bit.ly/rollon601Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 10, 2021 • 3h 2min

Neuroscientist Matthew Walker On Why Sleep Is Your Superpower

Why do we sleep? What exactly happens when we sleep and why is it so important? What are the implications of sleep deprivation? And what can we do to improve our sleep hygiene?Answering these questions is the life’s work Dr. Matthew Walker.Longtime listeners know that I am obsessed with sleep and the critical role it plays in every facet of health. This infatuation is driven in no small part by the incredible work of today’s guest, one of the world’s leading neuroscientists and researchers in the field of sleep science.Matriculating at Nottingham University where he studied neuroscience, Matthew earned his Ph.D. in neurophysiology from the Medical Research Council in London, subsequently became a Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, and is currently a Professor of Neuroscience and Psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, where he serves as the founder and director of the Center for Human Sleep Science.In addition, Matthew hosts a MasterClass on the science of better sleep. His TED Talk, ‘Sleep is your superpower’ has over 20 million views. And his international smash bestselling book Why We Sleep—a must-read for anyone and everyone looking to live and feel better—provides the framework for today’s mind-blowing, slumber-focused primer.To put it rather bluntly, this conversation covers everything you need and ever wanted to know about sleep, including: why do we sleep? what happens to our bodies and minds when we sleep why is sleep so important? what happens when we don’t get enough? what is the deal with dreams, sleepwalking & sleep paralysis? what are the various stages of sleep (REM, deep, etc.)? what can we do to prioritize and improve our sleep?  In addition, Dr. Walker answers the questions like: how do caffeine and alcohol affect sleep? Why do our sleep patterns change across a lifetime? What is the relationship between sleep, immunity, weight gain, and mood? And most critical: how do we resolve the global sleep-loss epidemic?All told, this is an utterly fascinating masterclass on why you must rethink your relationship with sleep and the profound short and long-term impacts sleep has on every facet of our lives from learning to mood, productivity, energy, hormone regulation, longevity, and even susceptibility to cancer and other diseases.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll600YouTube: bit.ly/matthewwalker600I urge all of you to absorb this conversation in its entirety. Whip out your pen and paper—this is essential, potentially life-altering listening for every human. And simply put, it’s everything I hoped it would be.Peace + Plants,Rich
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May 3, 2021 • 1h 41min

Anthony Taylor: The Outdoors Evangelist On How Nature Heals

Time in nature is powerful. It’s healing. It fosters community. Humanity’s connective tissue, it shows you who you are and what you’re capable of becoming.The outdoors has played a transformational role in my personal evolution. In almost every way I am a different, better human because I make copious use of the untouched natural spaces available to me—spaces I access freely and have long taken for granted.However, the uncomfortable truth is that outdoor parks (nature in general) are places where historically not everyone has been entirely welcome.This is a paradigm we must diligently work to dismantle.It’s also the spark that illuminates the work of Anthony Taylor—an extraordinary human who has spent his life advocating for greater participation and access to outdoor environments, and the second guest to appear in my continuing series of conversations from my week in Minneapolis.The former Commissioner for Minneapolis’ Parks & Open Spaces and current Senior Vice President of Equity, Outdoors & Nature for YMCA of the North, Anthony is—at 62 years old—the very model of anti-aging. A skier, paddler, accomplished ultra-cyclist and overall outdoors enthusiast, Anthony serves on the League of American Bicyclists Equity Advisory Board as well as the board of the National Brotherhood of Skiers. He is also the founder of the Major Taylor Bicycling Club of Minnesota and the co-founder of Cool Meets Cause, an outreach program that teaches girls from North Minneapolis to snowboard. And he served as the Adventure Director for the Loppet Foundation—a program that provides year-round outdoor activities for youth in Minneapolis.This is a conversation about the nature of outdoor recreation to empower, enliven, and inspire.It’s a walk through Anthony’s origin story. And it’s an exploration of his love of nature and his accomplishments as a cyclist and adventurer.But the focus of this exchange is placed on Anthony’s important work as an activist and youth educator.It’s a history lesson on race, class, privilege, and gender in the outdoors. And the many ways we can eradicate the invisible boundaries that exist in these spaces today.Certain transformative lessons can only be learned through adventure—lessons imperative to youth development and deeper connection to our own innate humanity.Put bluntly, outdoor sports and time spent in nature aren’t just recreation—they are human rights.I guarantee this conversation will positively impact you in ways you may not expect. My hope is that it will help foster ways you can advance greater outdoor inclusivity within your community along the way.FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll599YouTube: bit.ly/anthonytaylor599Special thanks to talented Minneapolis local photographers/videographers Bennie Wilson and Jordan Lundell for portraits & an upcoming video we are working on.Anthony is the leader we all need now. And this conversation is definitely a fave.Peace + Plants,Rich

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