

Gym World Worldwide
John Franklin
Gym World is a weekly show about making money in the fitness industry.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
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Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 7min
This gym owner has done $33M in sales...
Mateo Lopez dives in deep with Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) to discuss Mark's own super successful fit biz: Mark Fisher Fitness (https://markfisherfitness.com/)
What is Mark Fisher Fitness MFF? (2:55)
Getting snatched in a 6-week program (6:52)
Mark discusses the ups and downs of revenue from the 6-week challenge (10:10)
Charing premium prices for a premium experience (12:09)
Making millions by providing value (19:06)
What gym owners should think about according to MFF (26:26)
How MFF gets people to come into the gym (30:52)
There's a way to be persistent and not be annoying (34:00)
Getting people to sign up for free offers (38:12)
Why it's important to understand the sales process (44:27)
Selling a high-ticket program (47:52)
Awesome trainers in your gym matter (50:02)
The most common problem people are coming to MFF (51:23)
The best way to do email marketing (56:21)
Using ChatGPT to write content (1:02:06)

Apr 10, 2023 • 59min
This gym owner makes over $15k/mo from one simple Instagram strategy
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Nick Page (https://www.instagram.com/nickpage_ttp/?hl=en), the owner & founder of The Trainer Page, about undervalued Instagram strategies that help him generate over $15k/mo.
Introducing Nick Page (0:35)
How Nick's business evolved (1:09)
Nick talks Instagram strategies (7:16)
Just DM your followers and take action (12:03)
How do you get people to follow you? (18:36)
Why running a contest is effective when done right (21:07)
Instagram will stop you at some point (26:32)
The importance of having social proof & a social presence (29:29)
How do you come up with post ideas? (33:01)
Getting more leads on social (40:10)
How do you manage all the leads? (47:29)
What kind of reply rate should a gym owner be expecting? (51:08)

Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 2min
This gym owner makes $100k/mo from one Facebook campaign
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Jack Wheeler (https://www.instagram.com/360fitnesspt/?hl=en), the founder, CEO and co-owner of 360 Fitness Personal Training.
Introducing Jack Wheeler (0:30)
Running a 7-figure gym that makes $100k/mo (2:29)
Jack’s VIP shake program (6:44)
Sales numbers per month (14:01)
Social proof on all sides of the gym (20:19)
Why Jack’s Facebook Ads work so well (30:10)
Jack explains his marketing process to get leads (38:18)
How to use social proof photos as a part of your ads (48:34)
Jack talks conversion rates & client retention (57:02)

Mar 27, 2023 • 45min
The worst gym in the f***ing world?!
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) discuss LifeTime Fitness’s transformation and a viral gym that claims to be “the best gym in the f***ing world.”
LifeTime Fitness increases prices (0:50)
LifeTime’s dynamic pricing (3:45)
How gym owners should price their services (9:20)
Why do people pay $300/mo to workout LifeTime (13:15)
LifeTime’s pickleball strategy (17:18)
What gym owners can learn from Lifetime (24:00)
The greatest gym in the f***ing world (27:08)
Fusion Gym’s big opening (31:08)
Fusion Gym’s response (33:30)
Fusion Gym expands to the fitness capital of the world (40:35)

Mar 18, 2023 • 1h 20min
This online coach makes over $500k from Instagram 🤯
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Dani & Jason Brown about building a massive coaching business via Instagram.
Introducing Dani & Jason Brown (0:40)
What is the Conjugate Method? (5:38)
Selling a programming business? (12:00)
Selling $250k in online programs (15:33)
Jason’s advice for building an online training business (22:56)
Growing a 50k-person Instagram following (25:22)
Instagram tactics (29:30)
Jason’s core offer (35:30)
Jason’s epic Garage Gym (42:39)
Rating TikTok Garage Gyms (44:37)
The best powerlifting gym in Boston (48:38)
Being a garage gym consultant for rich people (55:20)
Overrated or underrated:
Ice baths (59:56)
The sumo deadlift high pull (1:02:19)
Greens powder (1:08:39)
Natty or not content (1:11:12)
Fasted cardio (1:18:19)

Mar 13, 2023 • 1h 4min
The best gym in the f***ing world
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) discuss a viral gym that claims to be “the best gym in the f***ing world.”
The best gym in the f***ing world (0:42)
The front man for the best gym in the f***ing world (9:05)
The economics for the best gym in the f***ing world (17:07)
Financing the best gym in the f***ing world (23:19)
The business plan for the best gym in the f***ing world (26:02)
Takeaways for gym owners (35:43)
Kilo gym management software tattoos (36:15)
Selecting a profitable niche in fitness (39:10)
The Glute Guy (39:55)
Knees Over Toes Guy (48:55)
The Vertical Jump Guy (52:20)
Metal Workout (59:40)

Mar 6, 2023 • 1h 27min
These gym owners make $350k/mo from Instagram
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Dan Trink and Kyle Fields, the co-founders of The Fort NYC, about how they use social media to make $350k/mo from their gyms.
Introducing Dan Trink and Kyle Fields. (0:02)
The current state of the fitness industry and how it has changed. (3:01)
Writing vs. video content for fit pros (6:36)
How fitness influencers actually get in shape (14:05)
Reacting to Joel Seedman (17:10)
The Fort’s social strategy (21:08)
The Fort’s content rhythm (29:19)
How to produce high-quality content (33:18)
How CrossFit gyms are changing their business model (40:52)
Podcasting for gyms (45:04)
Lead costs (48:43)
The importance of focus when creating content (57:00)
Red light therapy (59:38)
Influencer gyms (1:04:59)
Fitness in the metaverse (1:10:39)
Cold plunges (1:17:16)

Feb 25, 2023 • 1h 26min
The business guy behind Cressey Sports Performance
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHu...) talk about the business of fitness with Pete Dupuis (https://www.instagram.com/pete_dupuis/), the co-founder of Cressey Sports Performance.
Show notes:
Pete’s relationship with Sahil Bloom (2:36)
How to get successful people to work with you? (5:35)
Pete’s content strategy How to be the Seth Godin (15:06)
How to set boundaries and say no (21:36)
Where Pete gets inspiration (24:20)
Pete’s writing process. (41:20)
Twitter vs. Instagram for growing an audience (43:56)
Using Twitter to test ideas (50:57)
What kind of gym Pete would build if he was starting today? (55:06)
The misconception about social media followings (59:15)
How to hire coaches and personal trainers (1:09:26)
Othership raises $9M to expand their social bathhouse concept (1:11:48)

Feb 16, 2023 • 53min
Fat personal trainers, drama at Planet Fitness, ISSA's TikTok ads, & more fitness news
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Jay Wein (https://www.instagram.com/dicey_mcsorely/) bring you the best (& worst) stories from the Gym World.
Show notes:
Can you be a fat personal trainer? (0:23)
Is there a market for overweight personal trainers (6:50)
Planet Fitness’s new marketing campaign was inspired by dick pill commercials (10:44)
The Bear Cave releases a short report on Planet Fitness (16:56)
LA Fitness’s new concept is a mall food court but for fitness studios (21:38)
Virtual reality fitness app FitXR wants you to sculpt in the metaverse (33:07)
ISSA’s TikTok ad campaign. Do certifications matter in fitness? (43:45)
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Feb 10, 2023 • 1h 1min
The WORST price increase in the fitness industry
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHu...) talk about Zumba and bad price increases.
Strava’s weird price increase (0:20)
How not to raise prices at your gym (9:14)
The worse price increase in fitness history (11:52)
Zumba’s 6 Week Transformation Program (26:31)
Is Zumba the best fitness business of all time? (35:24)
Zumba Instructor Network + Zumba’s music business (50:44)
Beto Perez (55:18)
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