

Gym World Worldwide
John Franklin
Gym World is a weekly show about making money in the fitness industry.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
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Jul 7, 2023 • 1h 19min
How to build an 8-figure nutrition business
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Mike Doehla (https://www.instagram.com/mikedoehla/?hl=en), the former CEO and Co-founder of Stronger U Nutrition, about how he bootstrapped a nutrition business and sold it for 8-figures.
Show notes:
(1:26) What is Stronger U Nutrition?
(2:49) How Mike got into the nutrition business
(6:28) Pricing nutrition programs & client numbers
(11:29) How the business grew without paid marketing
(15:20) Mike's system to managing thousands of clients
(17:43) How do you have a work-life balance when scaling a biz?
(19:31) What made Stronger U more successful than anyone else?
(24:08) Mike discusses his social media strategy
(29:02) How Mike hired the best coaches for Stronger U?
(35:33) Advice for gym owners trying to add nutrition to their biz
(38:40) Selling Stronger U Nutrition for 8-figures
(43:16) The importance of doubling down on your strengths
(45:54) How do you sell healthy habits?
(54:55) Why Facebook is the best platform & how to use it
(1:02:27) Navigating life after retiring & selling a business
(1:04:16) Predicting opportunities in the fitness/nutrition industry
(1:09:20) AI in the fitness industry
(1:12:26) What's next for Mike?

Jun 30, 2023 • 59min
Bank insider reveals how gym owners can make millions using SBA
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Angelo Medici, a senior VP at Live Oak Bank (https://www.liveoakbank.com/), where he reveals exactly how gym owners can use the bank to build their wealth really fast.
Show notes:
(1:39) What is Life Oak Bank and SBA lending?
(6:12) What makes a gym bankable? (aka, good target to get a loan)
(9:09) What is the debt service coverage ratio?
(11:48) How can gym owners value their business?
(13:33) Example of a deal structure as a buyer with SBA
(15:51) Benefits of SBA lending
(17:47) How can gym owners qualify for an SBA loan?
(18:47) What do payments & rates look like for a $1M loan?
(23:17) How do interest rates affect a business's value?
(25:53) Can you borrow from other lenders to put equity into an SBA?
(28:17) What does the SBA timeline & process look like?
(33:41) Can you have multiple SBA loans?
(37:35) If you're not profitable, can you still qualify for a loan?
(39:06) How do banks calculate a gym's EBITDA number?
(42:31) The BEST use of an SBA loan
(46:27) If I profit more, am I obligated to pay off the loan faster?
(48:15) What is a line of credit and how does it work?
(52:49) Where should gym owners look for a broker?
(55:10) I have no experience in business, can I still qualify for a loan?

Jun 23, 2023 • 56min
Gym owner opens three gyms in 10 months
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Jeff Schumacher, the Co-Founder of Engage Personal Training (https://engagepersonaltraining.com/), about how he opened 3 gyms in 10-months. Jeff provides insight for gym owners on how to run and scale multiple profitable gyms.
Show Notes:
(0:36) Introducing Jeff Schumacher
(3:47) The most difficult part of running multiple gyms
(5:19) Explaining Engage Personal Training–why it works so well
(9:38) The economics of Engage locations
(15:00) The secret to obtaining high profit margins
(17:00) How do you run a gym successfully with 2 staff members?
(23:26) Jeff's strategies & offers to get bodies in the door
(27:49) Why great customer-service is important
(30:44) How Jeff finds the right operator & staff for his gyms
(33:44) What's the onboarding process like?
(36:23) Where does the cash come from to open a new facility?
(37:58) How are staff members compensated at Engage?
(42:26) Breaking down the costs of opening multiple locations
(44:18) Would Jeff ever consider franchising?
(47:05) Buying real estate vs. renting for multi-location
(49:16) Launching a new location Out-of-State

Jun 20, 2023 • 48min
Selling a fitness blog for MILLIONS with David Thomas Tao
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpI_I0QUkOsTOVi-HYS-y1g) sat down with David Thomas Tao (https://twitter.com/d_tao?lang=en) to talk about how he built and sold BarBend.com (https://barbend.com/) – the next great fitness content brand in the industry.
Show notes:
(00:58) Introducing David & being on the Forbes 30 Under 30 list
(05:26) What it's like being a Spirits writer 🥃
(09:33) What is BarBend.com and how did it start?
(13:10) How did David know starting a media company would work?
(16:08) Explaining Pillar4 Media and what they do
(23:09) Flying under the radar while building a massive brand
(27:39) What to do to drive more traffic to your page
(33:36) How can gym owners become the go-to source for training content?
(36:58) Quality vs. quantity of content
(40:03) Choosing the right social platform to post
(43:25) How to balance posting content across different socials
(46:06) What parts of the fitness industry are on an uptrend?

Jun 9, 2023 • 32min
Will weight loss drugs disrupt the fitness industry?
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez are joined by Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) to discuss semaglutides–diabetes drugs that are creeping their way into the fitness industry.
Show Notes:
(0:42) What are semaglutides?
(2:20) WeightWatchers buys a telehealth company
(5:01) Semaglutides will be easier to market
(11:18) Mark's hot take on Ozempic
(15:05) Will these drugs disrupt the fitness industry?
(18:26) Pharmaceuticals are a big business
(22:03) Beachbody's in an ideal position to hop on this opportunity
(24:41) Why gym owners should care
(31:25) Get a free shirt from Mateo

Jun 1, 2023 • 55min
Building a 7-figure semi-private training gym with Vince Gabriele
Vince Gabriele, gym owner and marketing expert, discusses how he generated 7-figures in revenue by structuring his small-group training model. Topics include pricing, gym footprint efficiency, transitioning from large to small-group, showcasing specialization, squirrel marketing, using Facebook ads, components of a solid marketing plan, successful client offers, the value of 6-week challenges, and building wealth outside the gym.

May 22, 2023 • 1h 1min
Building a 7-figure fitness business & buying a 7-figure property with Brian Bott
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) sits down with Brian Bott (https://www.instagram.com/brianbottfitness/?hl=en), the Founder of Aspire Fitness, to talk about the fundamental business processes behind running multiple gym locations that generate 7-figures and owning 7-figures in real estate.
Show notes:
(0:44) Introducing Brian's gym & his training structure
(2:52) The transition from one to two gym locations
(5:53) Packaging agreements & pricing memberships
(8:16) Brian talks margins – explaining the 44% model
(9:53) Pros and cons of the 44% model
(12:35) How do you track all of your client data?
(16:12) Monitoring coaching, responsibilities, and compensation
(20:42) How to successfully run multiple gym locations
(23:26) The problem with large group gyms & mistakes they make
(29:57) Brian discusses the process of buying his building
(34:39) The importance of having an agreed-upon price
(36:16) What is a Right of First Refusal in real estate?
(37:27) Coming up with $1.1M to purchase a building
(40:27) The hardest part of the buying process
(41:59) Next steps – opening a 3rd location vs. buying a struggling gym
(45:35) Finding a way to make the gym work in your town
(49:44) Can you run a fitness business with zero overhead?
(51:57) Fitness entrepreneurship – take big risks when you're young
(56:00) Final words of advice from Brian

May 11, 2023 • 44min
How to make your gym rank #1 on Google
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Kaleda Connell (https://twitter.com/KaledaConnell) – the CEO of Kilo (https://usekilo.com), a gym software with marketing and website automation to make gym owner's lives easier – about lessons learned over the years when growing a business and the importance of updating your Google Business profile.
Show notes:
(1:26) Introducing Kaleda & Kilo
(4:01) How John & Mateo connected with Kaleda
(6:27) What are SOPs?
(8:23) Lessons learned over the years as a gym owner
(10:55) How to approach hiring people with no experience
(14:58) Tips for gym owners to improve their online presence
(16:52) The biggest mistake gym owners make on their socials
(19:33) Why updating your Google Business profile matters
(21:39) The first thing people look for before looking at a business' website
(25:14) How to bump your biz to the top of Google
(28:11) The biggest mistake on gym websites that hurt leads & how to fix it
(30:55) Should gym owners hide or share their pricing?
(32:22) Are gym owners passionate about their websites?
(36:07) How to stand out in a crowded market & get more leads
(38:11) How to have the most success with software
(40:20) A new service to help rank your gym #1 on Google

May 4, 2023 • 1h 4min
This gym owner made $1.8M PROFIT in 10 months
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk with Andrea Savard (https://www.instagram.com/asavard_firepower/) – a Two-Brain Business mentor and the co-owner of Reebok CrossFit FirePower – where she shares the ups & downs, and twists & turns of using real estate as a financial lever.
How Andrea got started in real estate (1:18)
The economics of buying a large gym (6:20)
What Andrea wouldn't do when buying a gym (11:33)
Top- and bottom-line for the gym (16:59)
The beginning of Andrea's 7-year nightmare (18:02)
How much goes into finding a sufficient property to buy (23:43)
What happens when a deal falls through (25:53)
Finding money again for a new building (30:46)
I bought a space right when the pandemic hit. Now what? (34:11)
What if we bought a farm and moved our gym to a rural setting? (42:46)
Selling yet again. The gym still needs a home… (46:19)
Real estate strategies from a real estate veteran (50:19)
Advice for gym owners wanting to get into real estate (56:13)
The importance of starting small (59:05)
The one thing gym owners should never do (1:02:17)

Apr 27, 2023 • 56min
Gym owner makes $85k/mo with no paid ads
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Cassie Day (https://www.instagram.com/cassiedayyy/?hl=en) — an award-winning personal trainer and the Founder & CEO of All Day Fit — about all things social media and how to make big money by creating organic content.
Introducing Cassie Day & her gym All Day Fit (1:53)
The inspiration behind a lane gym & what it is (5:38)
How much money does ADF bring in? (10:54)
Getting clients through organic social posts without using ads (12:15)
Planning out marketing content for the full year (15:27)
Why creating content that provides value to others is important (19:04)
How to create high-quality content (24:04)
Biggest lessons learned from having a digital marketing/content creation background (27:39)
The four-week cycle of content & content team (32:05)
How to turn leads into clients via social media (36:13)
Offering a "hot commodity" service that sells out (40:50)
Building a personal brand vs. a gym brand (45:35)
Be the expert & stand out — where do you find inspiration? (51:02)


