

Gym World Worldwide
John Franklin
Gym World is a weekly show about making money in the fitness industry.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
Join the co-founders of Kilo, John Franklin and Mateo Lopez, as they interview some of the industry's most successful entrepreneurs.
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Jun 9, 2023 • 32min
Will weight loss drugs disrupt the fitness industry?
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez are joined by Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) to discuss semaglutides–diabetes drugs that are creeping their way into the fitness industry.
Show Notes:
(0:42) What are semaglutides?
(2:20) WeightWatchers buys a telehealth company
(5:01) Semaglutides will be easier to market
(11:18) Mark's hot take on Ozempic
(15:05) Will these drugs disrupt the fitness industry?
(18:26) Pharmaceuticals are a big business
(22:03) Beachbody's in an ideal position to hop on this opportunity
(24:41) Why gym owners should care
(31:25) Get a free shirt from Mateo

Jun 1, 2023 • 55min
Building a 7-figure semi-private training gym with Vince Gabriele
Vince Gabriele, gym owner and marketing expert, discusses how he generated 7-figures in revenue by structuring his small-group training model. Topics include pricing, gym footprint efficiency, transitioning from large to small-group, showcasing specialization, squirrel marketing, using Facebook ads, components of a solid marketing plan, successful client offers, the value of 6-week challenges, and building wealth outside the gym.

May 22, 2023 • 1h 1min
Building a 7-figure fitness business & buying a 7-figure property with Brian Bott
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) sits down with Brian Bott (https://www.instagram.com/brianbottfitness/?hl=en), the Founder of Aspire Fitness, to talk about the fundamental business processes behind running multiple gym locations that generate 7-figures and owning 7-figures in real estate.
Show notes:
(0:44) Introducing Brian's gym & his training structure
(2:52) The transition from one to two gym locations
(5:53) Packaging agreements & pricing memberships
(8:16) Brian talks margins – explaining the 44% model
(9:53) Pros and cons of the 44% model
(12:35) How do you track all of your client data?
(16:12) Monitoring coaching, responsibilities, and compensation
(20:42) How to successfully run multiple gym locations
(23:26) The problem with large group gyms & mistakes they make
(29:57) Brian discusses the process of buying his building
(34:39) The importance of having an agreed-upon price
(36:16) What is a Right of First Refusal in real estate?
(37:27) Coming up with $1.1M to purchase a building
(40:27) The hardest part of the buying process
(41:59) Next steps – opening a 3rd location vs. buying a struggling gym
(45:35) Finding a way to make the gym work in your town
(49:44) Can you run a fitness business with zero overhead?
(51:57) Fitness entrepreneurship – take big risks when you're young
(56:00) Final words of advice from Brian

May 11, 2023 • 44min
How to make your gym rank #1 on Google
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Kaleda Connell (https://twitter.com/KaledaConnell) – the CEO of Kilo (https://usekilo.com), a gym software with marketing and website automation to make gym owner's lives easier – about lessons learned over the years when growing a business and the importance of updating your Google Business profile.
Show notes:
(1:26) Introducing Kaleda & Kilo
(4:01) How John & Mateo connected with Kaleda
(6:27) What are SOPs?
(8:23) Lessons learned over the years as a gym owner
(10:55) How to approach hiring people with no experience
(14:58) Tips for gym owners to improve their online presence
(16:52) The biggest mistake gym owners make on their socials
(19:33) Why updating your Google Business profile matters
(21:39) The first thing people look for before looking at a business' website
(25:14) How to bump your biz to the top of Google
(28:11) The biggest mistake on gym websites that hurt leads & how to fix it
(30:55) Should gym owners hide or share their pricing?
(32:22) Are gym owners passionate about their websites?
(36:07) How to stand out in a crowded market & get more leads
(38:11) How to have the most success with software
(40:20) A new service to help rank your gym #1 on Google

May 4, 2023 • 1h 4min
This gym owner made $1.8M PROFIT in 10 months
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk with Andrea Savard (https://www.instagram.com/asavard_firepower/) – a Two-Brain Business mentor and the co-owner of Reebok CrossFit FirePower – where she shares the ups & downs, and twists & turns of using real estate as a financial lever.
How Andrea got started in real estate (1:18)
The economics of buying a large gym (6:20)
What Andrea wouldn't do when buying a gym (11:33)
Top- and bottom-line for the gym (16:59)
The beginning of Andrea's 7-year nightmare (18:02)
How much goes into finding a sufficient property to buy (23:43)
What happens when a deal falls through (25:53)
Finding money again for a new building (30:46)
I bought a space right when the pandemic hit. Now what? (34:11)
What if we bought a farm and moved our gym to a rural setting? (42:46)
Selling yet again. The gym still needs a home… (46:19)
Real estate strategies from a real estate veteran (50:19)
Advice for gym owners wanting to get into real estate (56:13)
The importance of starting small (59:05)
The one thing gym owners should never do (1:02:17)

Apr 27, 2023 • 56min
Gym owner makes $85k/mo with no paid ads
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez chat with Cassie Day (https://www.instagram.com/cassiedayyy/?hl=en) — an award-winning personal trainer and the Founder & CEO of All Day Fit — about all things social media and how to make big money by creating organic content.
Introducing Cassie Day & her gym All Day Fit (1:53)
The inspiration behind a lane gym & what it is (5:38)
How much money does ADF bring in? (10:54)
Getting clients through organic social posts without using ads (12:15)
Planning out marketing content for the full year (15:27)
Why creating content that provides value to others is important (19:04)
How to create high-quality content (24:04)
Biggest lessons learned from having a digital marketing/content creation background (27:39)
The four-week cycle of content & content team (32:05)
How to turn leads into clients via social media (36:13)
Offering a "hot commodity" service that sells out (40:50)
Building a personal brand vs. a gym brand (45:35)
Be the expert & stand out — where do you find inspiration? (51:02)

Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 7min
This gym owner has done $33M in sales...
Mateo Lopez dives in deep with Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) to discuss Mark's own super successful fit biz: Mark Fisher Fitness (https://markfisherfitness.com/)
What is Mark Fisher Fitness MFF? (2:55)
Getting snatched in a 6-week program (6:52)
Mark discusses the ups and downs of revenue from the 6-week challenge (10:10)
Charing premium prices for a premium experience (12:09)
Making millions by providing value (19:06)
What gym owners should think about according to MFF (26:26)
How MFF gets people to come into the gym (30:52)
There's a way to be persistent and not be annoying (34:00)
Getting people to sign up for free offers (38:12)
Why it's important to understand the sales process (44:27)
Selling a high-ticket program (47:52)
Awesome trainers in your gym matter (50:02)
The most common problem people are coming to MFF (51:23)
The best way to do email marketing (56:21)
Using ChatGPT to write content (1:02:06)

Apr 10, 2023 • 59min
This gym owner makes over $15k/mo from one simple Instagram strategy
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Nick Page (https://www.instagram.com/nickpage_ttp/?hl=en), the owner & founder of The Trainer Page, about undervalued Instagram strategies that help him generate over $15k/mo.
Introducing Nick Page (0:35)
How Nick's business evolved (1:09)
Nick talks Instagram strategies (7:16)
Just DM your followers and take action (12:03)
How do you get people to follow you? (18:36)
Why running a contest is effective when done right (21:07)
Instagram will stop you at some point (26:32)
The importance of having social proof & a social presence (29:29)
How do you come up with post ideas? (33:01)
Getting more leads on social (40:10)
How do you manage all the leads? (47:29)
What kind of reply rate should a gym owner be expecting? (51:08)

Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 2min
This gym owner makes $100k/mo from one Facebook campaign
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding) & Mateo Lopez talk to Jack Wheeler (https://www.instagram.com/360fitnesspt/?hl=en), the founder, CEO and co-owner of 360 Fitness Personal Training.
Introducing Jack Wheeler (0:30)
Running a 7-figure gym that makes $100k/mo (2:29)
Jack’s VIP shake program (6:44)
Sales numbers per month (14:01)
Social proof on all sides of the gym (20:19)
Why Jack’s Facebook Ads work so well (30:10)
Jack explains his marketing process to get leads (38:18)
How to use social proof photos as a part of your ads (48:34)
Jack talks conversion rates & client retention (57:02)

Mar 27, 2023 • 45min
The worst gym in the f***ing world?!
John Franklin (https://twitter.com/JohnIsBuilding), Mateo Lopez, and Mark Fisher (https://www.youtube.com/@MarkFisherHumanBeing) discuss LifeTime Fitness’s transformation and a viral gym that claims to be “the best gym in the f***ing world.”
LifeTime Fitness increases prices (0:50)
LifeTime’s dynamic pricing (3:45)
How gym owners should price their services (9:20)
Why do people pay $300/mo to workout LifeTime (13:15)
LifeTime’s pickleball strategy (17:18)
What gym owners can learn from Lifetime (24:00)
The greatest gym in the f***ing world (27:08)
Fusion Gym’s big opening (31:08)
Fusion Gym’s response (33:30)
Fusion Gym expands to the fitness capital of the world (40:35)