
Time and Attention
Time and Attention is a podcast that will help you become more intentional and productive. Hosted by Chris Bailey, the author of two productivity books, and Ardyn Nordstrom, a nerdy economist, the show covers topics as diverse as productivity, focus, procrastination, time management, money, happiness, gratitude, and disconnecting. We occasionally also welcome a bestselling author onto the show to talk about a book they wrote.
Latest episodes

Oct 26, 2021 • 35min
63: Four Thousand Weeks
This week I interview Oliver Burkeman for the podcast. Oliver is the author of the fantastic new book, Four Thousand Weeks. In the episode, we have a fun, wide-ranging conversation about a bunch of topics, including:
The idea of “finitude,” and why it matters;
Our “future-chasing mindset,” which prevents us from enjoying things;
How trying to achieve a perfect mastery over our time can make us miserable;
Where impatience comes from;
The usefulness of productivity advice;
The costs of hoarding our time;
..and more.
Four Thousand Weeks is an incredible read. It covers not just how we should manage our time, but also the place time management should have in our life in the first place. I highly recommend it.
You can listen (and subscribe) to the podcast below!
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Oct 12, 2021 • 30min
62: Time Management
On this super tactical episode of the podcast, we chat about time management. Topics covered include:
What time management is, and why it matters
Becoming more aware of how you spend your time
Scheduling time commitments around your energy levels
The broader picture of time management
The Pomodoro technique, and shrinking your “resistance level”
Time blocking, and limiting distraction
How many breaks to take throughout the day
How to time breaks for optimal creativity
How autonomy matters with time management
Creating artificial deadlines
Links mentioned in this episode:
Book: Four Thousand Weeks, by Oliver Burkeman
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Sep 28, 2021 • 23min
61: The Benefit of Slowing Down
On this episode, we chat about how slowing down can help us in work and life, without compromising our performance (if that’s something you care about). Topics covered include:
How busy times make slowing down more important—but also lead to more guilt
A new definition of the word “productivity”
How slowing down helps us savor, experience more meaning, and also creates more opportunity for reflection
How to fit slowing down into a busy scheduling, especially by minding the gaps in your day
The productivity benefits of meditation
The power of “scatterfocus”
Links mentioned in this episode:
Study: A wandering mind is an unhappy mind
Study: Back to the future: Autobiographical planning and the functionality of mind-wandering
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Sep 14, 2021 • 35min
60: Ideas for Stress
On this episode, we chat about stress relief strategies that have been proven to lower the level of stress hormones in our body. Topics covered include:
How to think about the stress in your life from 10,000 feet
The differences between chronic and acute stress
Our body’s stress response
How more stress is preventable than we think
How stress can provide us with meaning
The neurochemicals that underlie stress
How stress relief is often an active process
A bunch of stress-relief strategies that actually work
Links mentioned in this episode:
Book: The Upside of Stress
Article: 9 stress relief strategies that actually work
The World Health Organization’s definition of burnout
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Aug 31, 2021 • 25min
59: A Proper Vacation
On this episode, we chat about how to actually recharge while taking some time off. Topics covered include:
How work can be meaningful—but also a pretty big source of chronic stress
Identifying hidden sources of chronic stress in our live
How vacations can make us more productive overall
How stress both drives us to burnout, but also provides us with meaning
How to find things to engage with, and things to savo
How to best prepare for time off, to make the time even more rejuvenating
Link mentioned in this episode:
Study: A Record 768 Million U.S. Vacation Days Went Unused in ‘18, Opportunity Cost in the Billions
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Aug 17, 2021 • 26min
58: Email Habits
On this episode, we chat about how to more deliberately deal with email, to both think about it less, and make it a less stressful element of your day. Topics covered include:
How much we should think about email in the first place
How to conduct “email sprints”
The two types of work that we all do
How to better organize your email messages
Creating different “email environments”
The “Five-Sentence Rule” for answering email
The intention-interpretation gap with communication
How to take an email vacation
How to shrink time on email through disconnected hours and pre-defined boundaries
Creating the illusion of responsiveness
Link mentioned in this episode:
IBM Study: Am I wasting my time organizing email?
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Aug 3, 2021 • 22min
57: Saying No
On this episode, we chat about the importance of saying no to unimportant things. Topics covered include:
Becoming more deliberate about saying no
What we should be saying no to—in our work and personal lives
Comparison tasks that put “saying no” in perspective
The relative meaning and productivity of tasks
Knowing the value of your time—and saying no to things accordingly
The importance of people in productivity
Thinking about what to say yes to
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Jul 20, 2021 • 23min
56: Celebrating Milestones
Topics include the lack of celebration for accomplishments, the Zeigarnik effect, the importance of closure, the Need for Closure scale, the Post-Portem ritual, favorite rewards for finishing tasks, celebration guilt, and timing for celebrations.

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Jul 6, 2021 • 24min
55: Roadblocks, Bumps, and Obstacles
On this episode, we chat about obstacles that get in the way of our habits—including the habits we’re in the middle of forming, and the ones we already have. Topics covered include:
The payoff of anticipating obstacles ahead of time
Some common obstacles that get in our way
How to identify the obstacles that’ll get in the way of our specific habits
The types of obstacles we face: Environmental, time-based, temptations, and situational
The five cues that trigger habits
Minding our time, attention, and energy
Links mentioned in this episode:
Book: The Power of Habit
My New Year’s Guidebook
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Jun 22, 2021 • 32min
54: Productivity Habits (Part 2)
On this episode, we count down our all-time favorite productivity habits—this week we cover numbers 5-1! Topics covered include:
Keeping a “Waiting For” list—and what to capture on it
How to organize the items you’re waiting on
The importance of “scatterfocus”
Where ideas come from—and where our mind wanders to
How to recharge, generate ideas, and generate plans
The three types of scatterfocus
How to conduct a weekly review
How to determine your most important tasks
Understanding how much time tasks and projects take
How to make a daily plan, while including the rule of 3
The ways meditation makes us more productive
Links mentioned in this episode:
Book: Hyperfocus
Audible Original: How to Train Your Mind
Focusmate
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