

The Land Investing Business Secrets
Jessey at Pebble
Learn how to fully utilize simple digital marketing strategies and tools for your vacant land investing business. Learn about tested methods and avoid some of the difficult lessons so that you can fast track your own investing with minimal risk.
The Land Investing Business Secrets Podcast show by Pebble, hosted by Jessey Kwong, reveals the strategies to growing, scaling, and building your sustainable land investing business all behind your laptop and smartphone form anywhere around the world!
The Land Investing Business Secrets Podcast show by Pebble, hosted by Jessey Kwong, reveals the strategies to growing, scaling, and building your sustainable land investing business all behind your laptop and smartphone form anywhere around the world!
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Oct 2, 2025 • 36min
From Flips to Development: Turning Raw Land into Builder-Ready Lots (Podcast Ep#145)
Brandon Cobb, a land developer specializing in horizontal development, shares his journey from house flipping to creating builder-ready lots. He discusses the advantages of pre-selling lots to national builders as a risk management strategy. Brandon provides insights into the approval process, typical timelines, and the importance of building strong relationships with builders. He also highlights common pitfalls for new developers dealing with municipalities and shares a case study on a successful 74-lot project, revealing key costs and lessons learned.

Sep 4, 2025 • 38min
The Subdivide vs. Develop Playbook for Land Investors (Podcast Ep#144)
Join Ricardo "Revenue Rick" Giles, a savvy land investor who specializes in zoning and residential density, as he reveals how to maximize land profits. He discusses the importance of understanding land value over structures and shares his strategies for identifying the right counties to invest in. Learn about his decision-making process for subdividing versus developing, his offer anchor of 60 cents on the dollar, and how simple pre-development moves can accelerate sales. Plus, discover the rising trend of mobile home packages as an affordable solution!

Aug 21, 2025 • 48min
Why Land Beats Houses in Real Estate (Podcast Ep#143)
What happens when a pro hockey player walks away from the rink and reinvents himself in real estate?In this episode, Jessey talks with Scott Morongell, who went from chasing pucks to chasing deals. After concussions cut his hockey career short, Scott dove headfirst into sales, multifamily syndications, and eventually found his stride in land investing.You’ll hear how Scott pivoted through multiple business cycles, why he doubled down on land, and the creative strategies that keep him winning no matter where the market moves.In this episode:From hockey injuries to building wealth through real estateWhy land deals can outperform houses in profit and simplicityThe marketing channel Scott trusts most in today’s marketHow to pivot, cut losses fast, and stay creative in business

Jul 31, 2025 • 38min
Getting Creative With Land: Solar, Commercial and AI (Podcast Ep#142)
Alex Toma, a land investor with a background in commercial real estate, shares his innovative approach to transforming undervalued land into high-value deals. Discover how he successfully partners with solar companies without owning the land and employs zoning strategies that can exponentially increase property value. Alex also dives into the use of AI tools to streamline due diligence and enhance property marketing. Plus, he reveals his unique daily 50-text method for generating high-quality leads, proving that creativity and technology can drive success in land investment.

Jul 17, 2025 • 44min
Running A Land Business In A Different Culture Doesn't Stop Her! (Podcast Ep#141)
Running a land business from halfway across the world might sound impossible, but Efrat proves it’s not.In this episode, Jessey sits down with Efrat, an Israeli land investor and former architect who’s flipping land in the U.S. without ever setting foot there. From navigating a completely different bureaucracy to building a supportive land investing community in Israel, Efrat shares how she turned every obstacle into an advantage.You’ll hear how she launched her business with zero experience in U.S. real estate, what finally pushed her to hire a VA, and the unique ways she tailors her ads by truly understanding her buyers — all while juggling time zones and cultural gaps.In this episode:- How Efrat built a thriving U.S. land business from Israel- Why cultural awareness makes her a better marketer- What finally convinced her to hire help (and how it changed her business)- The power of learning by doing and mentoring others along the way

Jul 3, 2025 • 39min
Common Sales Misconceptions & Objection Handling (Podcast Ep#140)
In this discussion, sales coach Jen Way, a former marine science grad who transitioned from real estate to teaching conversational sales, shares her transformative journey. She reveals how her bartending days honed her sales skills and offers insights into building rapport and handling objections. Jen emphasizes that anyone can excel in sales with practice and curiosity. She also debunks common misconceptions and highlights the importance of genuine conversations over automation in the sales process.

Jun 19, 2025 • 37min
Why Smaller Land Deals Can Lead to Bigger Profits (Podcast Ep#139)
Some investors go big to win big — but Hunter built a thriving land business by doing the opposite.In this episode, Jessey sits down with Hunter to break down how he flips smaller, rural parcels at scale for outsized returns. You’ll hear how a college side hustle turned into a full-time business, why he avoids blind offers, and how he’s built passive income by offering seller financing to buyers who weren’t even looking.With just two VAs and a tight system, Hunter is moving 100+ deals a year — using creative direct mail, a smooth checkout experience, and 27 marketing channels to keep his pipeline full.In this episode:How flipping low-cost rural parcels led to 100+ deals a yearCreative seller financing that converts casual browsers into buyersDirect mail strategies that stand out — without using blind offers

Jun 5, 2025 • 35min
Profiting from Below the Ground (Podcast Ep#138)
What if the land you buy could pay you monthly without flipping it, developing it, or lifting a finger?In this episode, Matt Sands breaks down the world of mineral rights, a whole side of land investing most people overlook. With over 26 years in oil and gas and now hosting The Mineral Rights Podcast, Matt shares how land investors can unlock passive income from what’s under the ground.We’re talking royalties, pooling, deal structures, and how to find areas where mineral rights actually cash flow.In this episode:What mineral rights are and how they really workHow royalties are calculated and what those checks can look likeWhere the best states are for mineral investingWhat to watch out for before making your first mineral play

May 22, 2025 • 42min
The Pricing Secret and Strategy (…Being Done with AI) (Podcast Ep#137)
What if your land offers weren’t just educated guesses—but backed by data, strategy, and AI?In this episode, Chris and Aaron share the pricing method behind their $500K+ land business. From using county-assessed values to anchor offers, to building consistency through neutral letter campaigns, their approach blends personal touch with data-driven systems.They also reveal how they use AI-powered tools to compare comps, assess markets, and avoid the spray-and-pray mailing method—resulting in smarter offers and higher ROI.In this episode:- Combine AI with comps for better offer accuracy- Target the right markets without guessing- Structure mail and follow-up for consistent deals- Build a lean land business without cold callingShownotes:[www.ailanddealz.com](https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ailanddealz.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1745090899026499&usg=AOvVaw1KWDrpy-g-KQeCkjllPOFN)[info@ailanddealz.com](mailto:info@ailanddealz.com)

May 8, 2025 • 42min
How Her Smaller Team Operations Win (Podcast Ep#136)
Kay Walker didn’t scale with a massive team or high-volume cold calling. Instead, she built a lean, local operation that closes high-value land deals using direct mail, in-house systems, and trusted people she already knows.In this episode, Kay shares how she keeps her operations tight but effective, relying on local relationships across NC, SC, and GA, and a close-knit team that understands her process.From managing mail campaigns in-house to coordinating with realtors, soil testers, and contractors she’s worked with for years, Kay shows that smaller teams can move fast, stay personal, and win big.IN THIS EPISODE:Why local relationships make the differenceHow a smaller team keeps things efficient and profitableRunning direct mail campaigns in-houseLessons from scaling a busy short-term rental businessWhat developers really want when buying landHow to build a high-trust, low-chaos team