Making Sense of Martech

Juan Mendoza + Jacqueline Freedman
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Jun 13, 2023 • 1h 2min

#48 | Michelle Songy on the problem with PR, building a media marketplace and getting publicity

A conversation with Michelle Songy. In this episode, I'm joined by Michelle Songy. Michelle is a startup founder, company executive and innovator in the space of media and technology. Michelle is the founder and CEO of Press Hook one of the first media relations platforms that connects media to brands and publicists at scale. Prior to founding Press Hook, Michelle founded Cake, a mobile payments platform for restaurants that was acquired by American Express. Michelle has also worked in finance at Coca-Cola and is an investor with a variety of funds. In this episode, we talk about the problem of public relations, why companies want media attention, building a two-sided marketplace in media, what journalists really want and the impact of generative AI tools on the media industry. Go here for ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠show notes, links, and resources.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Juan Mendoza on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Listen on⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Google⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠everywhere else.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can find Michelle on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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May 16, 2023 • 1h 10min

#46 | Tom Goodwin on progress and pessimism in marketing and technology

A conversation with Tom Goodwin. In this episode we have Tom Goodwin joining us. If you work in marketing, advertising or tech he probably needs no introduction. Tom is an international keynote speaker, the author of Digital Darwinism, the co-founder of consultancy ALL WE HAVE IS NOW, a TV presenter, and a regular contributor for The Guardian, TechCrunch, and Forbes, GQ, Ad Age, Wired, Ad Week, Inc, MediaPost and Digiday. In this episode we talk about progress and pessimism, how we should critique new technologies, hype exhaustion, what limits progress, working with change, and how our history should inform our present and future. Go here for ⁠⁠⁠show notes, links, and resources.⁠⁠⁠ Follow Juan Mendoza on ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠and ⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠. Listen on⁠⁠⁠ Apple⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ Spotify⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ Google⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠everywhere else.⁠⁠⁠ You can find Tom on ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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May 2, 2023 • 1h 1min

#45| Myles Younger on the convergence of Adtech and Martech

A conversation with Myles Younger. In this episode, we have Myles Younger. Myles is the Head of Innovation & Insights at U of Digital, an AdTech focused education firm. Prior to joining U of Digital. Myles' nearly 20 year career in advertising has spanned every facet of the business, from his time in client-side marketing, to his experience as an ad tech founder and product leader, to his experience inside the world of agencies and consulting. Most recently Myles was VP Go-to-Market, Data at Media.Monks and prior to that he founded the Canned Banners dynamic ads platform which was acquired by Thunder in 2017. Writing and speaking frequently on digital media & advertising topics, Myles is a regular contributor to industry publications such as Adweek, AdExchanger, and AdMonsters. In this episode Myles and I speak about… convergence of advertising and marketing tools, how third-party cookies are radically changing the industry, educational challenges in the industry and how AdTech can shake off its increasingly negative perception. Go here for ⁠⁠show notes, links, and resources.⁠⁠ Follow Juan Mendoza on ⁠⁠LinkedIn ⁠⁠and ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠. Listen on⁠⁠ Apple⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Spotify⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Google⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠everywhere else.⁠⁠ You can find Myles on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠.
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Apr 18, 2023 • 60min

#44| Ross Candido on the social stack and the evolution of social listening

A conversation with Ross Candido. Today I'm joined by Ross Candido. Ross is the VP of ANZ and SEA at Meltwater a leading media monitoring & social analytics platform. Meltwater offers a suite of solutions that spans media, social, consumer, and sales intelligence. By analysing ~1 billion pieces of content each day and transforming them into vital insights, Meltwater provides competitive intelligence and consumer insights for over 27,000 global customers across six continents. Ross has been instrumental in growing one of the longest-standing and influential media intelligence and social analytics platforms, and bringing Meltwater to new markets including South East Asia, China, UAE and South Africa, before landing his current role based out of Australia. In this episode, we'll talk about the social stack - all the tools that make up social marketing, public relations, and media monitoring. We talk about how social listening has evolved over time, the wide varieties of data available to companies from social channels, how insights are gained from media data, and how the way we socialise has changed. Go here for ⁠show notes, links, and resources.⁠ Follow Juan Mendoza on ⁠LinkedIn ⁠and ⁠Twitter⁠. Listen on⁠ Apple⁠,⁠ Spotify⁠,⁠ Google⁠, and ⁠everywhere else.⁠ You can find Ross on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠.
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Apr 11, 2023 • 48min

#43| Bryan Williams on partnership strategy, platform ecosystems and the problem of monopolies

A conversation with Bryan Williams. In this episode, I'm joined by Bryan Williams. Bryan is the founder of the newly formed firm Hockey Stick Advisory. An experienced operator in the platform ecosystem space, Bryan played a key role in building out Xero's partnerships and application ecosystems as the former director of Ecosystem and Apps. Bryan has also served as a mentor and advisor through startup accelerator programs such as Blackbird Giants program and StartUp Vic office hours programs. In this episode, we talk about the growing role of platform ecosystems in the marketing technology landscape and how companies are building new channels of growth, customer engagement, and partnerships. We touch on the incentives of ecosystems and their role in the broader marketing and tech industry, how ecosystems form within companies, identifying how other companies serve your customer, and the different kinds of ecosystems in the market. Go here for ⁠show notes, links, and resources.⁠ Follow Juan Mendoza on ⁠LinkedIn ⁠and ⁠Twitter⁠. Listen on⁠ Apple⁠,⁠ Spotify⁠,⁠ Google⁠, and ⁠everywhere else.⁠ You can find Bryan on ⁠LinkedIn⁠.
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Mar 14, 2023 • 52min

#42 | Juan Baron on data clean rooms, the privacy paradox, data and trust, and cryptography in advertising

A conversation with Juan Baron. In this episode, I am joined by another Juan…. Juan Baron! Juan is the Director of Business Development and Strategy for media and advertising at Decentriq. Decentriq calls itself The "Switzerland" of data that is coincidentally also headquartered in Switzerland..... Founded in 2018, the company is inventing novel technology to enable publishers, brands, researchers, platforms, and advertisers to collaborate data in a way that ensures privacy and security. Decentriq works with companies such as Roche, Microsoft and Intel to enable more privacy-focused data collaboration and audience matching. In a world where privacy is becoming an increasing focus across marketing and advertising, data clean rooms play an interesting role in the growth of first-party data sharing as third-party tracking is slowly becoming a thing of the past. In this episode, we have a fascinating discussion about the privacy paradox: balancing privacy and utility, the role of trust in data collaboration & sharing, how inventions in cryptography and ML are changing the Adtech ecosystem, and the scalability of data clean rooms in an increasingly saturated market. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Juan on LinkedIn and Twitter.
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Feb 6, 2023 • 51min

#040 | Amanda Natividad on the power of audience research, zero-click content, and finding yourself in content creation

A conversation with Amanda Natividad. In this episode I am joined by Amanda Natividad, VP of marketing for SparkToro, a SaaS marketing company that helps people do audience research, or find out what content their audience is consuming and where they spend time online. Amanda has a long and storied career in marketing recently heading up B2B content marketing at Fitbit along with a number of senior tech marketing roles and recently launching a course - Content Marketing 201 (https://maven.com/amandanat/content-marketing), that helps marketers take their content to the next level. Amanda also used to work in tech journalism and was a test kitchen cook! In this episode we talked about Amanda's journey into content marketing and becoming the VP of marketing at SparkToro, how SparkToro works like a team of 10 with just 3 employees, and as well as their approach to Big Tech. We also discuss building a Twitter audience, using zero-click content as a part of content strategy, and whether it is good or not that some tech companies punish the use of links. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Amanda on Twitter, LinkedIn, or her site.
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Dec 10, 2022 • 59min

#039 | Martech throughout culture

A conversation with AJ Rollsy. In this episode, I'm joined by AJ Rollsy. AJ is the founder of CORE marketing method and the founder of Healthpoint Research. AJ is an entrepreneur who over the last two decades has helped multinational corporations launch and grow brands, driving multiple billions of dollars in sales across 50+ national markets. AJ recently supported TMW research for a paper on Martech in India providing valuable insights into how the technology community works in one of the largest markets in the world. In this episode, we dive into how Martech companies are started and grown across various regions globally, particularly Asia. We talk about cultural nuances that change the course of technology development, how entrepreneurship evolves across the generations and if the world of marketing technology is shifting out of Silicon Valley from west to east. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find AJ on LinkedIn.
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Dec 3, 2022 • 1h 6min

#038 | Understanding Performance Marketing

A conversation with Sabri Suby. In this episode I am joined by Sabri Suby who calls himself the "Lord of the Internet." He's the founder of King Kong an Australian based digital advertising agency and the author of "Sell Like Crazy." King Kong has generated more than $1.3 billion in reported revenue for their clients and is one of the fastest growing agencies in Australia. I have never met anyone that hustles quite as hard as Sabri. In this episode we talk about the grind of digital advertising, building a growth mindset, "hustle culture", Sabri's views on performance marketing, the impact that privacy changes has on the how brands grow, building a business model around big tech platforms, why Sabri has golden records in his office and his ubiquitous online presence in the digital marketing industry. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Sabri on LinkedIn.
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Nov 10, 2022 • 45min

#036 | Building Competitive Intelligence

A conversation with Andy McCotter-Bicknell. In this episode I am joined by Andy McCotter-Bicknell, the head of competitive intelligence at Click-Up, content creator and founder of the competitive playbook - an online course that helps companies to build competitor intelligence programs from scratch. We talk about the emerging field of competitive research and strategy in B2B SaaS companies, Andy's journey building the competitive playbook, the differentiation of Clickup, competing beyond product and features, the state of competitive intel in the tech industry, building a competitive intelligence programs in companies, how competitive intel influences company strategy, and many other topics. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Andy on LinkedIn.

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