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Tripping Out with a Legend: Jon Kabat-Zinn on Pain vs. Suffering, Rethinking Your Anxiety, and the Buddha's Teaching in a Single Sentence
Apr 5, 2023
Jon Kabat-Zinn, creator of Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, discusses pain vs. suffering and the accessibility of awareness. They explore the limitations of mindfulness meditation, the quote 'open your mouth and you're wrong,' and the definition of healing. The podcast also covers infusing wonder into meditation practice and the role of art in expressing the ineffable.
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- Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) has made Buddhist meditation accessible to non-Buddhists, enabling millions to benefit from its practice.
- Meditation and mindfulness cultivate awareness, allowing individuals to shift their focus to appreciate the richness of the present moment and experience a love affair with life.
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Importance of Abandoning Expectations and Embracing Uncertainty
In this podcast episode, John Cabot-Zinn discusses the humbling experience of abandoning expectations during an interview. He emphasizes the importance of embracing uncertainty and shares a Buddhist teaching on letting go of expectations. This lesson resonates with the speaker, who recognizes the need to learn this lesson repeatedly. The conversation shifts from discussing Cabot-Zinn's new book on managing pain with meditation to exploring topics such as rethinking anxiety, the future of the species, and the Buddha's teachings. Overall, Cabot-Zinn highlights that mindfulness meditation and awareness cultivate a love affair with life and enable the achievement of equanimity.
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