Law Firm Growth Podcast

Balancing Your Law Firm's Money Vs. Your Money with Wendy Brookhouse>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Fast track your marketing efforts while avoiding common marketing mistakes in our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Stop guessing how to get results from online ads and grow your firm with our client-generating Seminar 3.0About Wendy Brookhouse:Wendy Brookhouse knows how to find, keep and grow your wealth. She is the Founder and Chief Strategist of Black Star Wealth where she weaves in her experience in business consulting, business ownership, and focusing on simplification to achieve outstanding results. Knowing that creating wealth takes more than just math, Wendy addresses the baggage and behaviors that keep people from doing what is in their own financial interests.Wendy is a Certified Financial Planner with an Executive MBA and she’s the author of Burn Your Budget: How to Spend Your Way to Financial Freedom. She serves on the faculty of the Women’s Leadership Intensive; served as chair and a director of Junior Achievement of Nova Scotiaand Junior Achievement of Canada. She is a media ambassador for FP Canada and the host of The Real Bottom Line, a podcast featuring entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. She loves Rugby and is always ready to travel for a good concert.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Learn more about what makes Kevin Brick’s firm tick at https://www.brickbusinesslaw.com/Fast track your marketing efforts while avoiding common marketing mistakes in our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Stop guessing how to get results from online ads and grow your firm with our client-generating Seminar 3.0There are lawyers, and then there are businesses that sell legal services…But why does that distinction matter?Because a lot of firms who forget about the business side fall short on business processes.Being a lawyer is certainly more stressful if you’re in a law firm that doesn’t run efficiently…Being the greatest attorney in the world doesn’t mean that you can run a firm successfully because business is an entirely different skillset on its own.You owe it to your clients and employees to make sure things are operational and smooth…So what steps can you take to keep the business side of your firm running smoothly?In this week’s podcast, Kevin Brick discusses how to succeed in marketing areas that other firms seem to have less fortune in and where attorneys benefit from focusing most of their efforts.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm like a business, so tune in now!In this episode: 1:13 - Running the business as a business1:49 - What a firm looks like from the ground level without business processes3:35 - Things Kevin prioritized when he began his firm5:13 - How Kevin thought about expanding as time went on8:33 - Traits Kevin looks for in new hires10:17 - When did the firm’s mission statement become clear?12:46 - Things Kevin took off his plate as he became a Managing Partner17:09 - Major platforms and software being used for operations19:45 - Very targeted and purposeful marketing25:40 - Common pitfalls that keep businesses small28:05 - What keeps Kevin going as he scales29:29 - KPIs Kevin’s firm focuses on32:53 - What’s next for Kevin’s law firm?About Kevin Brick:Kevin is the founder and managing partner of Brick Business Law, P.A. He serves as outside general counsel to numerous local and national businesses and litigates business-related issues.Kevin is recognized by the Florida Bar as a board-certified expert in business litigation. The Florida Bar rigorously evaluates the experience and competency of attorneys to determine board eligibility. There are less than 250 board-certified attorneys in business litigation out of over 100,000 members of the Florida Bar.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Looking for improvements to your marketing? Start by avoiding common mistakes, found in our new trainingGet access to Close Your Next Consultation training and other valuable resources when you join our Facebook groupEstate planning attorney? Plug into a proven system for consistent revenue with Seminar 3.0This rule is a constant reality inside law firms…The problem that you’re solving today is going to create a different problem.In this instance…we’re talking marketing and fulfillment. For example…If you nail the marketing, you have to figure out fulfillment. Once you hire people for fulfillment, you have to figure out ways to keep things going on the marketing side.There’s never going to be an end to this cycle.These things have to move in lockstep as much as possible, but they will never be in perfect unison.So, what’s the best way to systematize and gain confidence in this perpetual cycle that’s necessary for growth, and why do firms get stuck figuring this out?In this week’s podcast, Jan discusses why neverending battle can be particularly challenging for some firms, and what simple steps are necessary to gain control of this cycle.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm, so tune in now!In this episode: 0:55 - The front house versus the back house1:25 - If you’re stuck at a specific level of growth against your will…2:43 - Why this battle is particularly tough for solo firms 4:39 - A common situation where people get stuck6:32 - Understanding your first and second moves for growth8:29 - A requirement after tripling your headcount About Our Host:Jan Roos is the founder and CEO of CaseFuel agency, which helps law firms generate revenue through pay-per-click advertising. He is a legal marketing expert and is the author of the bestselling book, Legal Marketing Fastlane. It talks about PPC lead generation, a technique used to generate client leads for big and small practices.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Find Brian Kennel’s management advice and support service for law firms at https://www.performlaw.com/Time to improve your estate planning marketing? Make sure you’re avoiding the 3 biggest mistakes in our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Stretch your ad dollars further and get more clients with Seminar 3.0A lot of the norms that people relied on in 2019 simply don’t exist anymore. For example…The biggest challenge with firms after experiencing covid…Is figuring out how to move forward with people working remotely, at the office, or both.Remote work has become a necessity for most firms now. The benefits include:No longer being limited by the general area of your practice and going statewideThe opportunity to choose from a bigger pool of talent to work for your firmSoftware and programs that allow for more productivity than ever beforeYour competitiveness in the market is now tied to your willingness to work remotely, whether it’s a hybrid approach or a full-time approach.Take Brian Kennel, for example…Pre-pandemic, Brian was working with 15-20 clients at any given time, and since he moved remotely…That number has jumped to 40 all over the country because of the great processes he put in place.What do those processes consist of?In this week’s podcast, 3-time repeat guest Brian Kennel discusses why the firms with the most growth will have leaned into a remote work culture that allows them to be more productive and profitable than ever.  There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm and managing your team remotely, so tune in now!In this episode: 1:08 - Current client challenges around COVID3:23 - Is the hybrid work approach a must-have now?5:10 - Why are some firms so resistant to remote work?7:48 - Slack and other forms of communication in the work environment9:11 - Preventing online communication from getting out of hand16:11 - The massive opportunity remote work provides18:44 - How requirements and boundaries have changed over the years25:39 - Tipping the classic retainer model on its head29:40 - What are the firms that are attracting the best talent doing differently than their competitors?33:36 - The first order of benefits41:54 - Additional places to connect with BrianAbout Brian Kennel:Brian Kennel is the Lead Adviser to Perform Law, which helps law firms and managers make management decisions quickly. He has over 30 years of experience in law firms and shares his expertise with clients who need insightful analysis and business advice in management and finance.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Close more of your ideal clients with our Double Your Case Files MasterclassFast track your marketing efforts while avoiding common marketing mistakes in our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Grow your law firm the way you want and only pay with results with Seminar 3.0Are you a solo firm against your will?If you’re thinking about the next steps to grow your firm…You have to start thinking about the resources you have.When you think about teams 2 or 3 times bigger than yours…You need the type of resources they have too, or you won’t be able to compete with them.In order to get to that next level…It often involves overextending yourself temporarily. In other words…You’re almost always going to be at a point where you’re going to have less money, time, and quality of life before you get to the other side.So where do you start with a process like this?In this week’s podcast, Jan discusses the practical options solo firms have for scaling their firms, even when they lack some of the necessary resources.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm and finding the right resources, so tune in now!In this episode: 0:45 - The significance of the “dress for the job you want” approach2:40 - The value of burnout and despair4:42 - People who are at the firm size that they are against their will6:01 - A quote from Michael Jordan’s personal trainer6:46 - When do you end up hiring people?9:09 - Coming full circle About Our Host:Jan Roos is the founder and CEO of CaseFuel agency, which helps law firms generate revenue through pay-per-click advertising. He is a legal marketing expert and is the author of the bestselling book, Legal Marketing Fastlane. It talks about PPC lead generation, a technique used to generate client leads for big and small practices.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Want expert advice and coaching from a 7-figure law practice to simply your firm? Check out Valerie Fenchel’s Law Firm Business Coaching3x the amount of consultations on your calendar and avoid common marketing mistakes with our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Plug into a proven system for consistent revenue with Seminar 3.0As you know, there’s no single successful way to build a law firm, but…All the most successful law firms ARE built in very specific ways. For example…There’s a difference between people who begin as lawyers and people who begin as business owners who provide legal services as a product.When you’re starting a business, you might be surprised how many people cheer you on and want to be there for you. In Valerie Fenchel’s case…When she first started her law firm, her ego was in it, but once she focused on finding a managing attorney…Everything fell into place. This peace of mind not only benefitted her…It benefitted her entire firm and her clients as well.So what exact steps did she take to reach a place in her firm that resulted in 323% growth over the last 3 years?In this week’s podcast, Valerie discusses how releasing her ego and focusing on one key area of her firm gave her the opportunity to scale her firm while also attracting the right people to her team.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm and communicating clearly with clients, so tune in now!In this episode: 0:49 - Key moments in team building1:55 - The beginnings of hiring a managing attorney6:37 - Gaining momentum early on for client intake9:43 - Focusing on a particular niche or group to build an initial client base11:50 - What needs to happen before getting to the point of hiring a managing attorney14:25 - Hiring a managing attorney out of their opposing counsel17:40 - What’s harder to let go between limiting mindset and limiting systems22:15 - How does Valerie think about money in regards to her firm?23:25 - What kind of tasks are handled in a 10-hour workweek?25:35 - Valerie’s biggest influences30:04 - The right type of person for Valerie’s coaching program34:10 - What advice would Valerie give past self, starting on day one?About Valerie Fenchel:Valerie Fenchel is the CEO and founder of Fenchel Family Law PC. Her legal services empower men and women to navigate marriage and divorce toward more vibrant futures. She advises clients, devises strategies, and works with therapists, actuaries, and forensic accountants to settle or litigate cases. As a witness to the damage caused by divorce over the course of her career as a family law attorney and educator, Valerie has gained extensive experience in helping families in crisis.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Why do our clients laugh when ad costs go up for their competition? They’re all avoiding the 3 biggest marketing mistakes, taught in our new trainingSupercharge your law firm growth and get access to free masterclasses and more when you join our Facebook groupEstate planning attorney? Grow your law firm your way and only pay with results with Seminar 3.0As an attorney, you have the opportunity to offer clarity to people.When your prospects have clarity, it gives you the ability to have greater command over whether somebody is going to close or not.Thus, it becomes very important to sell YOU as opposed to your services…Especially if your competitors have comparable services in place.And one of the best ways to do this is by building genuine rapport, not by simply talking about the weather or football game…But by talking about the things that are important to your prospectAfter all…a person cannot ask a question outside of their understanding of a challengePeople are less likely to shop around for other options when they have a deep personal connection.And some of the best questions you can ask on a deep dive are the “why” questions, because…You can get people to experience things and ask themselves questions that they likely haven’t asked themselves before.How does this help expand your understanding of what’s possible?In this week’s podcast, Jan discusses a few simple strategies to understand your prospect’s needs as deeply as possible, without giving them a chance to shop around for competitors. There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm and developing rapport, so tune in now!In this episode: 1:04 - The two ways rapport is built2:02 - The traditional rapport-building stage and the deep dive process3:40 - A huge win for one of our reps4:36 - Why this is so important to have on a consultation6:00 - Why asking the right questions is your moral obligation7:17 - Where a lot of people fall short on the discovery process7:50 - Examples of vertical and horizontal questioning 10:17 - The power of being good at consultationsAbout Our Host:Jan Roos is the founder and CEO of CaseFuel agency, which helps law firms generate revenue through pay-per-click advertising. He is a legal marketing expert and is the author of the bestselling book, Legal Marketing Fastlane. It talks about PPC lead generation, a technique used to generate client leads for big and small practices.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Learn more about Ticora Davis and her growing team at https://creatorslawfirm.com/ticora-davisReady to improve your estate planning marketing? Make sure you’re avoiding the 3 biggest mistakes in our new trainingEstate planning attorney? Stop guessing how to get results from online ads and grow your firm with our client-generating Seminar 3.0Ticora Davis’s firm has grown by a whopping 724% in the last year…but how did she do it?It all started with leveraging social media back in 2017, simply because…She didn’t have money. As a result, she took on a new philosophy:“A lot of people say cash is king, but really, community is king.” For example…She was primarily educating instead of selling, which began with a simple Google search:“Why do people hate lawyers?”And she took everything that she found to become the “anti-lawyer,” speaking in SIMPLE terms and integrating relevant pop culture to educate and empower, not lecture.A lot of attorneys get in their own way trying to display a certain level of expertise…Reducing the impact they have on their clients as a result.So what can attorneys do to increase their impact and simplify their messaging at the same time?In this week’s podcast, Ticora discusses how you can speak to prospects using a culturally relevant lens to share important information.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm and charging what you’re worth, so tune in now!In this episode: 1:00 - How Ticora’s social media presence fits into her overall strategy5:16 - The impact of being inside of Ticora’s social media orbit8:11 - Turning into the “anti-lawyer”12:44 -  Utilizing expertise outside of legal training15:29 - The trial-by-fire path to becoming an attorney18:14 - Becoming an environmental sponge20:43 - Ticora’s team25:00 - First priority hires before scaling32:42 - Charging what you’re worth for services38:30 - What it takes to run an effective marketing operation42:04 - Surveying your audience to create relevant content44:10 - Where to connect with TicoraAbout Ticora Davis:Ticora Davis helps Black entrepreneurs and women business owners bulletproof their brands. In 2017, the intellectual property attorney founded The Creator's Law Firm, which specializes in trademarks and copyright, to help people protect their "products, programs, and profits." Her all-female team of 9 employees has served around 850 clients and was awarded a $10,000 Beyonce's BeyGood x NAACP Small Business Impact Fund grant.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

>> Get the newest LFG episodes delivered to your inbox when you Sign Up for our Newsletter.Resource Links:Learn exactly how to close more online leads with our new free Estate Planning Marketing trainingGet access to our Estate Planning Masterclass when you join our Law Firm Growth Secrets Facebook groupEstate planning attorney? Stop sacrificing work-life balance and get more clients with Seminar 3.0A lot of people go into business for themselves in the pursuit of freedom, right?Freedom can mean a lot of different things to a lot of people, but for most people…Being able to do what they want comes down to money at the end of the day.In the process of pursuing freedom, a lot of people end up letting go of freedom, because…They’re beholden to investors or public opinion on social media. However…If you can create so much value that you and the other person both come out on top…Then you will win, because you’re both making a profit during the interaction taking place.So, what are you currently beholden to, and what would you need to do to not have to worry about it?In this week’s podcast, Jan discusses how to never be dependent on someone else’s favor again, simply by being positioned to profit from mutual self-interests by creating value.There’s much more to learn in this episode about scaling your firm, so tune in now!In this episode: 1:20 - The concept of “F U” money2:30 - A story about pursuing freedom 4:44 - The investor trap and the partnership trap6:13 - Pros and cons of BNI8:10 - Being dependent on public opinion9:22 - Pursuing the ultimate freedom without giving up freedom12:13 - F U Money formula15:17 - Having an offer that people can’t say no to About Our Host:Jan Roos is the founder and CEO of CaseFuel agency, which helps law firms generate revenue through pay-per-click advertising. He is a legal marketing expert and is the author of the bestselling book, Legal Marketing Fastlane. It talks about PPC lead generation, a technique used to generate client leads for big and small practices.If you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.