
Manage This - The Project Management Podcast
Welcome to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. Every first and third Tuesday of the month we have a conversation about what matters to you as a professional project manager. Andy Crowe and Bill Yates, both well respected thought leaders in the project management industry, cover subjects such as project management certification and doing the job of project management, as well as get inside the brains of some of the leaders in the industry and also hear your stories. Subject Matter Experts join the cast to discuss topics ranging from advice for someone just starting in project management, leadership tips, to how to manage the unexpected, manage project teams, and much more. Whether you’re a professional project manager, a PMP, or on the road to becoming one, tune in to hear real advice and relevant information on all things Project Management. If you have questions, we have the project management experts to answer them! Claim 0.5 free PDUs per episode.
Latest episodes

Feb 3, 2020 • 38min
Episode 98 – Productivity vs. Burnout
Are you suffering from burnout and low productivity? Sarah Hoban talks about identifying workplace stressors that lead to burnout, and how boosting your productivity can be an antidote to burnout. Hear how to recognize the symptoms of burnout and how to delegate effectively.

Jan 20, 2020 • 0sec
Episode 97 –Food Well Alliance: Growing Together
The podcast for project managers by project managers. Project Managing Community Gardens. Hear all about an innovative project to increase access to locally grown food and build healthier communities, by empowering local growers, prioritizing local food, and saving food-producing land in a fast-growing city.
Table of Contents
01:37 … Meet Britni
02:22 … Food Well Alliance
04:18 … Connecting with a Passion
05:33 … Preparing for a PM Role
07:02 … Stakeholders
07:59 … Plant Eat Repeat Project
09:01 … Aluma Farm Project
13:57 … Communication with Stakeholders
15:03 … Working with City Governments
16:06 … Problem Statement Strategy
18:09 … Facing Obstacles
20:03 … Compost Issues
22:44 … Getting a Community Garden Started
24:55 … Resources Offered to Growers
26:58 … Face to Face with End Users
29:20 … Where to get Produce
29:42 … Advice for New PM’s
30:41 … Lessons Learned
31:43 … Closing
BRITNI BURKHARDSMEIER:
I think my advice would be the importance of building your project
management toolbox, so learning what are those best practices, whether it’s
techniques of communication, how to interact with partners externally or
internally. What are those tools you
need, you know, your templates for budget and timeline and meeting notes? But then in addition to that also still being
able to stay fluid and adaptable and recognizing that you may have to change
things up because every project is slightly different. Every partner on that project is slightly
different.
NICK WALKER: Welcome to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. We’ve been listening to what you’ve been telling us about what subjects you’re interested in and what kinds of guests you’d like to hear from, and so we thank you for your input. Please keep the comments about our podcast coming. So you can leave a comment on Google, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or whichever podcast listening app you use. You can also leave comments on the Velociteach.com website or on our social media pages, it’s your feedback that brings the kind of guest we have on our program today. And Bill Yates, I need to tell you, I’m not sure who suggested we have a podcast about food, but I’m certainly glad they did.
BILL YATES: It’s making me hungry just thinking about that. Looking forward to getting into that. So Britni is going to describe some projects that she’s worked with that are really unique, the stakeholders are unique, the problems to solve are unique. And I think, regardless of the type of project we have, we can all learn from Britni.
Meet Britni
NICK WALKER: So, let’s meet our guest, she’s Britni Burkhardsmeier, a project and impact manager at the Atlanta non-profit Food Well Alliance, a collaborative network of local growers, community leaders, and city leaders, working to build thriving community gardens and farms across Metro Atlanta. The goal is to increase access to locally grown food in order to build healthier communities. Britni holds a master’s in public health from Emory University’s Rollins School of Public Health, with a concentration in global nutrition. Prior to attending graduate school, Britni worked as program coordinator on the emergency health and nutrition team at Save the Children U.S. in Washington, D.C. Britni, welcome to Manage This.
BRITNI BURKHARDSMEIER:
Thank you for having me.
Food Well Alliance
NICK WALKER: Let’s get started by just learning a little bit more about the Food Well Alliance. So how did that organization get started?
BRITNI BURKHARDSMEIER: So we started in 2015 with funding from our founding benefactor, the James M. Cox Foundation. And we really got started because it was a vision between the Cox Foundation and Bill Bolling, the founder of the Atlanta Community Food Bank. And so together they saw an opportunity to connect members of Atlanta’s local food movement to collectively build healthier communities.
NICK WALKER: And what about you? I mean,

Jan 2, 2020 • 43min
Episode 96 – Stump the PM!
It’s a “Stump the PM” session! Velociteach Senior Instructor, Margo Love has over 30 years experience managing projects and we are going to discover which of the 49 Project Management Processes she has not performed and why. Margo discusses executing both internal and external projects. Of the 33 Project Documents in the PMBOK guide, Margo weighs in on which she has found to be indispensable.

Dec 16, 2019 • 0sec
Episode 95 – Making Sense of Agile, Shu Ha Ri, and Disciplined Agile
Hear how to support your team’s success when transitioning to Agile. The adaptation of the Aikido principle of Shu Ha Ri, as well as more info on Disciplined Agile.
Table of
Contents
00:58 … Meet Alan
02:07 … Defining Agile
04:20 … Shu Ha Ri
08:26 … Non Traditional and Non Profit uses of Agile.
14:43 … Challenges with Transitioning to Agile
17:41 … Disciplined Agile Train the Trainer Seminar
21:48 … Choosing your WoW
23:14 … D.A. and Lean
26:01 … Value Stream Mapping
27:33 … Fundamentals of Agile InSite Course
29:51 … Closing
Alan Zucker: ...as long as you are stepping in and making those decisions, the team won’t. So you really need to focus on stepping back and giving the team that space to make those decisions and allowing them to stub their toes and skin their elbows. So that they will become successful over time.
NICK WALKER: Welcome
to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. We’re back with another episode, bringing the
kind of information you’ve been asking for.
We hope you’ll keep the requests and comments coming in. You can always comment right there on your
listening app, or on Velociteach.com,
or on social media. We love hearing from
you.
I’m your host, Nick Walker, and with me are the two guys who
guide our discussion, Andy Crowe and Bill Yates. And this time
around we’re featuring a member of the Velociteach family. And like most of the folks around here, Andy,
he has credentials a mile long.
Meet Alan
ANDY CROWE: He does
indeed, Nick. And we have Alan Zucker on
the show today. And Alan and I go back a
good ways. He and I interacted back
before he worked for Velociteach. We had
a relationship. Somebody I have deep
respect for, and I’m really looking forward to today’s podcast.
NICK WALKER: Before
we hear from Alan, I want to tell you a little bit more about him. He’s a certified project management
professional, an ITIL Foundation certificate holder, a Scrum master, a scale
Agilist, and an Agile certified practitioner.
Alan Zucker is a keynote speaker, and he has more than 25 years of
experience as a leader in Fortune 100 companies. In 2016 he founded Project Management Essentials to provide
training and advisory services. He
recently completed a new course for Velociteach titled “Fundamentals
of Agile.”
Alan, welcome to Manage This. We want to talk Agile today. And before we really get into it, can you tell me a little bit about what Agile is, particularly for my benefit and for the benefit of those who maybe are coming from a predictive or waterfall background.
Defining Agile
ALAN ZUCKER: Sure, Nick. Well, first of all, Andy, thanks so much, it’s great to be on the podcast again. So Agile is a way of managing projects and it goes back formally about 20 years. And it started out as a way of developing software using incremental and iterative development techniques. So what we try to do with Agile is try to develop our projects and deliver our projects in smaller pieces. And then learn from what we’ve delivered in order to make things better with each of the successive increments.
BILL YATES: Those are
some of the keys; right? Small batches,
quick iterations, quick turnaround, get it in the hands of the customer,
deliver value quickly. Those are some of
the keys.
ANDY CROWE: Value,
value, value.
BILL YATES: Yeah,
value, value.
ALAN ZUCKER: And so I think one of the other really big pieces of Agile is that it changes the way we work, and it really focuses on having empowered teams and people really engaged, both from a customer’s perspective, as well as from the technology team perspective. In our traditional projects, particularly our waterfall projects, there’s a big separation between the customers, the business, the development team, the testing team, and on an Agile project we try to get everybody to collaborate together more effectively.
So, it’s really interesting,

Dec 2, 2019 • 40min
Episode 94 – Hiring the Best
The podcast for project managers by project managers. Hiring
the best is a significant undertaking. Our guests Don Lang and Laura Butcher
offer excellent advice on how to approach filling a critical position, and
choosing a candidate who is a right fit for your organization.
Table of Contents
00:48 … Meet Don and Laura
02:03 … Understanding the Whole Person
03:21 … Job Description vs Job Specification
07:00 … Measurable Job Specs
08:12 … Candidate Specification
11:03 … Deal Breakers
11:55 … Talent Brand
13:35 … Being Transparent and the Cost of a Bad Hire
19:23 … Planning for the Interview
21:08 … Building Rapport
23:12 … Laying out the Interview Plan
24:40 … Non-Verbal Cues
25:48 … Note Taking
28:46 … Roles of Multiple Interviewers
32:12 … When No Candidates are a 100% Match
35:10 … Assessing Capability
37:04 … “Hire The Best” Insite Course
38:23 … Closing
DON LANG: Oftentimes companies will spend more time
investing in a new piece of software or a photocopy machine in terms of doing research
and scouring prices and so forth. And
they’ll do a couple of quick interviews and think you’ve made the right
decision.
NICK WALKER: Welcome
to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. Every couple of weeks we meet to discuss what’s
important to you and to all professional project managers. We try to talk with the best of the best,
drawing on their experience and seeing what has worked for them.
I’m your host, Nick Walker, and with me is the true voice of
experience, Bill Yates. And today, Bill,
we have another full house here in the studio.
Meet Don and Laura
BILL YATES: Yes, we
do. It’s great to have Laura and Don in
the room with us. And I cannot wait to
dig into this topic because they are experts when it comes to hiring the best.
NICK WALKER: So let’s talk about hiring. As we all know in today’s economy, hiring the best people is more critical than ever. It costs a lot to find and interview candidates and to train new employees. No one can afford to lose time and money from a bad hiring choice. Employees are an investment, and we want a good return on that investment. That’s why Don Lang and Laura Butcher are here with us. They are the founders of Blue Key Partners, a consulting firm focused on helping organizations develop their leadership talent through learning and executive coaching.
Don and Laura wrote a course titled “Hire the Best” for Velociteach’s InSite Mobile Learning Platform. Laura has a background as an HR leader, supporting hiring and talent decisions across multiple industries; and Don has experience as an assessor of talent and in helping leaders apply skills and techniques to get the right person in the right job at the right time. Don, welcome to Manage This. Laura, great to see you again. Welcome back.
LAURA BUTCHER: Thank
you.
DON LANG: Thank you.
Understanding the Whole Person
NICK WALKER: Let’s
just start with the basics; all right?
First, getting to know a job candidate.
To what extent is it important to learn more than just the person’s job
skills?
DON LANG: Well, it’s
certainly important to understand the whole person because that’s who shows up
at work. Oftentimes in an effort to try
and get the best person we focus on some technical competency, some experience,
some skills, at the exclusion of really understanding how is this person going
to fit in the organization?
And I was reminded of that the other day when I was talking
to a hiring manager who hired a construction estimator. Lots of great experience in estimating significant
construction projects. But when they got
to work, immediately they started looking at different ways of changing the
work environment in their office. They
wanted to move to a different floor because it was too noisy where the other
estimators were. They wanted a microwave
brought in. They wanted someone to help
do some of the tasks that typically the other estimators would...

Nov 18, 2019 • 35min
Episode 93 – The American Chestnut Tree Project
In the early 1900’s, the fungal pathogen which causes chestnut blight was accidentally introduced into the United States. It was first detected in New York in 1904 and quickly spread throughout the eastern US forests. By the 1950s, this pathogen destroyed 90 percent of nearly four billion American chestnut trees.
Current projects bring hope for the majestic American chestnut tree. We spoke with Dr. Powell about his role as project leader in one such project.

Nov 4, 2019 • 0sec
Episode 92 – Reporting Projects and the NTSB
The podcast for project managers by project managers. The NTSB: hear about managing projects for the National Transportation Safety Board. Our guest Michele Beckjord is the Supervisory Investigator in Charge and Project Manager for the NTSB Office of Highway Safety. Michele explains the investigative process and describes some positive changes from NTSB projects.
Table of
Contents
00:52…The NTSB02:48…Meet Michele05:16…The Supervisory Investigator in Charge05:16…NTSB Project Manager Role08:02…Disaster Response Teams09:50…Incident Response Criteria12:14…NTSB Most Wanted List13:46…Sharing Lessons Learned16:00…Following Up NTSB Recommendations 17:34…Some NTSB Projects19:09…Avoiding Emotional Burnout22:58…Stages of the NTSB Investigation Process28:17…Growing into the Job32:01…Getting Accurate Information33:18…Positive Changes from NTSB Investigations36:40…Find Out More about NTSB Projects37:47…Closing
MICHELE BECKJORD: You’re never an expert in a project you’re
handed. You’re the project manager. It’s not your job to be the expert in that
particular area. It’s your job to get
that project managed to its completion point.
NICK WALKER: Welcome
to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. Every couple of weeks we meet to try to get
to the heart of what you face every day as a professional project manager. And we do that by talking with people who are
right there with you, facing their own challenges and finding their own
solutions.
I’m your host, Nick Walker, and with me is Bill Yates, who
thankfully is the one who keeps us on track around here. And Bill, we often hear in the news stories
of accidents involving aircraft, railways, ships at sea, vehicles on
highways. Our guest is someone right
there in the thick of all those stories.
The National
Transportation Safety Board.
BILL YATES: She
is. And we’re going to talk about the
National Transportation Safety Board and have a conversation with Michele. And just I’m fascinated in seeing how does a
project manager manage the situations that she deals with, with the high impact
that it has, the high visibility, and just the high stakes of these types of
projects.
NICK WALKER:
Yeah. Let’s get into this just by
talking a little bit about the National
Transportation Safety Board. The
NTSB is an independent federal agency charged with investigating every civil
aviation accident in the U.S., and other significant accidents on land and
sea. It also issues safety
recommendations aimed at preventing future accidents. Listen to this number: 14,900.
That’s how many safety recommendations the NTSB has made in its 52 years
of existence. And more than 80 percent
of them are implemented.
Meet Michele
We’re looking at kind of a different approach to project
management today with our guest, Michele Beckjord. Michele is the Supervisory Investigator in Charge
for the NTSB
Office of Highway Safety. She has a
B.A. in Criminal Justice from American University and a Master of Forensic
Science from George Washington University.
She has worked for the National Transportation Safety Board since 1995
and has served as a senior survival factors investigator and senior project
manager. Ms. Beckjord has led
investigations of major highway crashes involving school buses, motor coach
fires, and bridge collapses. As a
project manager, she’s also taken the lead role in managing major investigative
hearings, safety forums, and workshops.
Michele, thank you so much for joining us on Manage
This. And we want to start by just
hearing more about your position as the Supervisory Investigator in Charge and
Project Manager for the NTSB Office of Highway Safety. What does that entail?
The Supervisory
Investigator in Charge.
MICHELE
BECKJORD: Well, I’ll start with the
Supervisory Investigator in Charge. We
call it an IIC for short. What the ICC
does is lead a team of investigators.
And each of our investigators have a different backg...

Oct 14, 2019 • 36min
Episode 91 – Caught in the Crossfire – Conflict Management for the PM
The podcast for project managers by project managers. From choosing the best strategy and establishing ground rules, to finally implementing an agreed plan, our guest Neal Whitten describes a thorough and effective approach to managing conflict.
Table of Contents
01:54 … Meet Neal 02:44 … Defining Conflict 03:42 … Indicators of Conflict 05:30 … Sources of Conflict 08:06 … Conflict Resolution Strategy – Thomas Kilmann Model 08:46 … Competing Strategy 09:10 … Collaborating Strategy 09:37 … Compromising Strategy 10:15 … Avoiding Strategy 12:40 … Accommodating Strategy 12:55 … Choosing a Strategy
14:23 … 7 Steps to Conflict Management 16:08 … Step 1: Choose the Strategy 16:17 … Step 2: Establish Ground Rules 16:48 … Step 3: Define the Conflict 18:02 … Step 4: Explore Solutions 18:17 … Step 5: Select best Solution 18:11 … Step 6: Agree to Implementation Plan 18:55 … Step 7: Implement and Verify 19:00 … Collaboration 20:09 … PM’s Role in Conflict Management 21:34 … A Benefit of Conflict 22:36 … Overcoming Emotions and Egos 25:04 … Face to Face is Best 26:53 … Instill Confidence in a Team 29:47 … Conflict Mangement with a Boss 32:11 … How to Escalate 32:59 … “I Will Not…” Post Conflict Statements 34:28 … Get in Touch with Neal 35:17 … Closing
The podcast for project managers by project managers. Conflict management
advice for the project manager on resolution strategies and how to implement a
conflict management plan.
NEAL WHITTEN: We need each other more than ever. There’s so much data, so much information
there, you cannot be an expert on everything anymore. We need to work and collaborate with one
another. So that’s part of the theme
through conflict resolution.
NICK WALKER: Welcome
to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project managers. This is our chance to talk as professionals
in the field of project management. We
want to address your concerns, your needs, and to give you, not only some tips
on bettering your game, but to encourage you in it. We feature guests who have developed their
skills and want to help you develop yours.
I’m your host, Nick Walker, and before we get to our guest, I’d just like to personally thank our listeners for the comments we’ve received about our podcasts. This is how we know if we’re succeeding, how we know if we’re really helping you, so please continue to leave your comments on Google, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or whichever podcast listening app you use. You can also leave us a message on our website, Velociteach.com, or on social media, we want to hear from you.
And right now I want to hear from Bill Yates because our
guest today is somebody that you have known for a while. And he’s going to be speaking to something
that is, well, I guess inevitable in any project manager’s line of work.
BILL YATES: Conflict is going to happen, when you have two or more people working on something, you’re going to naturally have conflict, and I’m delighted to have Neal Whitten speak into that. When he and I were talking several months ago about what topic should we address next for project managers, we landed on conflict management. And I got excited about that right off the top because this is just a part of life, especially in projects. We have conflict at home, we have it in school, we have it in every phase of life, but absolutely in the workplace. So addressing that with Neal is going to be a great conversation.
Meet Neal
NICK WALKER: And of course we’ve had Neal on before. But let me reintroduce him to our listeners. President of the Neal Whitten Group, Neal Whitten, PMP, is a course author and contributor to Velociteach InSite’s elearning courses and has also been a contributing editor of PMI’s PM Network Magazine for over 15 years. Neal previously worked for 23 years at IBM, in both project leader and management positions.
Neal is a popular speaker, trainer, consultant, mentor,

Oct 1, 2019 • 37min
Episode 90 – Facing Uncertainty – A Leader’s Guide to Walking in Fog
Are you at odds with the unknowns of your project? Are you feeling stuck, frustrated, and unable to put a finger on what is going wrong, or why - as if you’re in a “fog”? Carole Osterweil, the author of Project Delivery, Uncertainty and Neuroscience: A Leader’s Guide to Walking in Fog, offers some excellent advice for PM’s facing project uncertainty.

Sep 16, 2019 • 43min
Episode 89 – Keys to Success and Being a Good Human
Hear how to be a successful leader by setting the example of being a good human. The author of The Project Book, Colin gives advice for assessing your team’s culture, how to build trust, and how to get your team to stand by you.