
Chinese Whispers
A fortnightly podcast from the Spectator on the latest in Chinese politics, society, and more. From Huawei to Hong Kong, Cindy Yu talks to experts, journalists, and long time China-watchers on what you need to know about China.
Latest episodes

Nov 25, 2024 • 23min
What's behind the Chinese migrant surge at the Darien Gap?
Professor Meredith Oyen, an expert on US-China migration, and Amy Hawkins, senior China correspondent at The Guardian, delve into the surge of Chinese migrants trekking through the perilous Darien Gap. They explore why this unprecedented migration is happening, driven by political repression and the promise of better futures. The guests discuss the role of technology in these journeys, and Hawkins shares insights on comparable patterns in Europe. Personal stories highlight the dangers families face as they seek asylum and safety, navigating a complex and shifting landscape.

Nov 11, 2024 • 56min
Why Beijing is wary of a Russo-North Korean alliance
Historian John Delury, a specialist in Cold War and East Asian history, joins Cindy Yu to dissect the shifting alliances of North Korea, Russia, and China. They consider the remarkable news of 11,000 North Korean troops reported in Russia, potentially signaling a new era of military collaboration. Delury explores historical tensions, Kim Jong-un's brutal consolidation of power, and the intricate dynamics between North Korea and China. The discussion also dives into how Russia’s isolation is reshaping its alliances and what that means for international stability.

Oct 28, 2024 • 1h 35min
Battle of Ideas – is China in decline?
Tom Miller, a senior analyst at Gavekal Research, Isabel Hilton, a veteran international reporter and founder of China Dialogue, and Austin Williams, an architect and academic, dive into China's current challenges. They discuss the economic slowdown, youth unemployment, and perceptions of decline. The panel explores urbanization, advancements in technology, and the Belt and Road Initiative's evolution. They also touch on issues of national identity, surveillance, and the balance of optimism amid political changes, providing a nuanced view of China's future.

Oct 14, 2024 • 43min
Corruption, power and the truth about my wife’s disappearance – with Desmond Shum
Desmond Shum, author of the memoir Red Roulette and commentator on Chinese politics, delves into his harrowing experience as a successful businessman in China before his wife Whitney Duan's mysterious disappearance in 2017. He shares insights on the intricate power struggles within the Chinese Communist Party, the chilling effects of government corruption, and the brutal reality of Xi Jinping's political landscape. Shum also critiques the accuracy of China's economic growth reports and discusses the increasing risks faced by those who dare to speak out against the regime.

Sep 30, 2024 • 48min
Will AI be the next arms race?
The discussion spotlights the fierce competition in AI development between China and the West. It explores China's unique regulatory landscape and the ideological motives driving its approach to generative AI. The role of tech giants like ByteDance takes center stage as they navigate the stringent demands of the state. The potential existential risks of unchecked AI advancements are examined, raising questions about global safety and the necessity for cross-border collaboration. Is this the beginning of an AI arms race?

Sep 16, 2024 • 39min
A father and son at the edge of the Chinese empire
Edward Wong, a New York Times journalist and former Beijing bureau chief, explores his family's past in China, shedding light on his father's history in the People’s Liberation Army. The conversation dives into the identity struggles of second-generation immigrants and the enduring nature of political power. Edward contrasts the imperial ambitions of China with those of the U.S., revealing insights into cultural legacies and the resilience of the Chinese Communist Party over seven decades. Their discussion offers a thoughtful reflection on family, empire, and the complexities of modern China.

Sep 2, 2024 • 43min
Investigating China's 'historic' claims in the South China Sea
Tensions in the South China Sea are escalating, especially under Xi Jinping's leadership, with recent clashes between Chinese and Southeast Asian vessels. The nine-dash line, representing China's historic claims, is scrutinized for its actual origins. Discussions reveal a turbulent early 20th-century context of nationalism and foreign humiliation influencing these claims. The podcast also delves into maritime history, examining Zheng He's voyages and the complexities of territorial assertions shaped by mapping practices and international law.

Aug 19, 2024 • 30min
What would a second Trump presidency bring for China?
Cindy Yu, an assistant editor focused on China, joins Freddy Gray, deputy editor of The Spectator, and Jordan McGillis, an expert on U.S.-China relations. They dive into Trump's hawkish stance on China and the potential motivations behind it. The discussion reveals how Trump's advisor choices could shape his foreign policy in a second term. They also analyze implications for Taiwan amidst fluctuating U.S.-China dynamics and critique Trump's shifting attitude towards TikTok as he seeks to connect with younger voters.

Aug 5, 2024 • 53min
How oil became the latest Chinese food scandal
The latest food scandal in China reveals fuel tankers carrying cooking oil without cleaning, raising alarms about food safety. Past incidents like melamine-laced milk powder have dented public trust. As the middle class becomes more discerning, regulatory challenges and corporate practices are scrutinized. The discussion extends to the impact of these scandals on governmental credibility and the role of investigative journalism in promoting accountability. Amid these issues, the exclusive 'tergong' food supply for leaders highlights a stark divide in food safety perceptions.

Jul 22, 2024 • 47min
Why China loves Taylor Swift
Delve into the passionate fandom of Taylor Swift in China and the influence of Western pop music in the country. Discover Chinese opera-style covers of Adele and the impact of an American missile system on K-Pop in China. Explore viral videos featuring Western pop in China and the challenges faced by Chinese artists in the global music industry.
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