
The Foreign Affairs Interview
Foreign Affairs invites you to join its editor, Daniel Kurtz-Phelan, as he talks to influential thinkers and policymakers about the forces shaping the world. Whether the topic is the war in Ukraine, the United States’ competition with China, or the future of globalization, Foreign Affairs’ weekly podcast offers the kind of authoritative commentary and analysis that you can find in the magazine and on the website.
Latest episodes

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Nov 21, 2024 • 35min
Trump and the Crisis of Liberalism
Francis Fukuyama, a renowned political scientist and author, joins editor Dan Kurtz-Phelan to dive into the current crises facing global democracy amid Donald Trump’s potential return. They discuss the backlash against the status quo and explore how economic dissatisfaction fuels support for illiberal populism. Fukuyama analyzes the institutional challenges intensified by the COVID-19 pandemic and the paradox of the U.S.'s international strength contrasted with its internal divisions. Their conversation also touches on the implications for foreign policy amid rising global tensions.

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Nov 8, 2024 • 48min
Bonus: The World of Trump 2.0
In this engaging conversation, Daniel Drezner, a Tufts University professor specializing in international politics, and Kori Schake, an expert from the American Enterprise Institute with deep roots in U.S. defense and foreign policy, dive into the implications of a second Trump term. They explore how Trump's past policies on Ukraine, trade, and alliances could return with even more vigor. Key topics include potential shifts in Middle Eastern relations, the unpredictable nature of U.S.-China dealings, and the complicated dynamics of immigration policies with Mexico. Tune in for a thought-provoking analysis!

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Nov 7, 2024 • 31min
The Return of Political Violence
Robert Pape, a political scientist from the University of Chicago and expert on political violence, dives into the alarming resurgence of violence both in the U.S. and globally. He highlights how domestic endorsement of political violence correlates with rising terrorism and discusses the implications of demographic shifts for political polarization. Pape also covers historical military interventions and their unintended consequences, questioning the effectiveness of air power in modern warfare, especially in the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Oct 24, 2024 • 36min
What Trump and the American Right See in Foreign Autocrats
Beverly Gage, a Yale historian and author of "G-Man: J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century," dives into the surprising acceptance of foreign autocrats in U.S. politics, especially during Trump's presidency. She explores how historical admiration for dictators is woven into American political life. Gage also discusses the modern political shift towards authoritarianism, linking domestic grievances with the rise of foreign autocrats and drawing parallels to McCarthyism, revealing the intricate connections between past and present ideologies.

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Oct 10, 2024 • 38min
The View From Israel One Year After October 7
Ari Shavit, a prominent Israeli writer known for exploring Israel's identity and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, shares his insights on the aftermath of the October 7 attacks. He discusses the shift in national identity and the urgent need for a coherent strategy regarding Gaza. Shavit navigates the limitations of one-state and two-state solutions, advocating for mutual recognition to revive peace efforts. He also highlights the regional dynamics and security threats, particularly from Iran, emphasizing the importance of international cooperation for stability.

26 snips
Sep 27, 2024 • 35min
The Middle East, China, and the Case Against American Isolationism
Condoleezza Rice, Director of the Hoover Institution and former national security advisor, dives into the complexities of American foreign policy amidst rising global tensions. She argues against isolationism, emphasizing that great powers must engage, particularly in light of ongoing conflicts in the Middle East and competition with China. Rice discusses the roots of American populism, the importance of U.S. alliances, and the delicate balance between military objectives and humanitarian concerns in diplomatic efforts. Historical precedents guide her vision for proactive engagement.

Sep 19, 2024 • 34min
Can America Still Lead the Global Energy Transition?
Brian Deese, former director of the National Economic Council and key architect of the Inflation Reduction Act, dives into America's pivotal role in the global energy transition. He discusses the growing challenge posed by China's dominance in clean energy and the need for a diversified trading system. Deese advocates for a modern-day Marshall Plan to combat climate change and bolster U.S. energy initiatives. He also highlights the intersection of clean energy, technological innovation, and the urgent need for a cohesive national energy policy amidst rising demands.

Sep 6, 2024 • 44min
Can India Change Course?
Pratap Bhanu Mehta, a leading political theorist and writer recognized for his sharp insights into Indian politics, engages in a thought-provoking discussion about the unexpected outcomes of India’s recent elections. He explores the implications of Modi's coalition government and the decline of the ruling party's influence. Mehta critically examines the challenges facing India's democratic institutions, the socio-economic disparities affecting minorities, and the evolving foreign policy landscape, particularly in relation to China.

Aug 15, 2024 • 38min
What Republican Foreign Policy Gets Wrong
Kori Schake, a senior fellow and director of foreign and defense policy at the American Enterprise Institute, critiques the implications of a potential second Trump presidency on U.S. foreign policy. She delves into the concept of 'conservative internationalism' and explores the historical missteps in American military interventions. Discussions include challenges posed by nations like China and Russia, inconsistencies in defense spending, and the precarious state of alliances. Schake advocates for a reformed approach that balances American strength with global responsibilities.

Aug 7, 2024 • 49min
Bonus: The Middle East’s Dangerous Escalation
Audrey Kurth Cronin, director of the Center for Security, Innovation, and New Technology, joins prominent Middle Eastern politics scholar Marc Lynch, former U.S. diplomat Dennis Ross, and defense strategist Dana Stroul to discuss the evolving crisis in Gaza. They explore the complexities of Israel's military strategy and the need for a coherent political approach post-conflict. The panel emphasizes the shifting regional dynamics, Saudi Arabia’s quest for U.S. defense, and the urgent reforms needed in Palestinian leadership for future stability.