
Growth Masterminds: mobile growth podcast
Growth Masterminds is smart user acquisition and mobile growth pros sharing their best insights on UA, retention, mobile measurement, privacy, mobile marketing data, and much more.
Hosted by John Koetsier, we chat with brands like IMVU, DraftKings, and Mixtiles. We interrogate ad networks like Fyber, Kidoz, AppLike, Vungle, Bluestacks, and more. And we feature global experts like Eric Seufert and Jayne Peressini. Along the way, we hit topics like pLTV, creative optimization, incrementality, granularity, fraud, privacy, success in China ... and much, much more.
Latest episodes

Jan 30, 2025 • 28min
Women & mobile gaming: 9 things you need to know
Women are half of mobile gamers, but many of them don't identify as gamers. Superbloom CEO Emily Yim and John Koetsier talk about making great mobile games for women, and much more.
Emily shares her journey from working at major gaming companies like EA, Zynga, and Glu to founding her own company and launching the hit game Venue. The conversation delves into the gender dynamics in gaming, growth strategies for niche markets, and the technological and social elements essential for game development.
Emily shares 9 insights about women and gaming:
1. Women make up at least 50% of mobile gamers
2. Many women gamers don’t identify as gamers
3. Women in mobile gaming are highly engaged and spend money
4. Women gamers often prefer different game genres and play styles
5. Women’s motivation to play games is different from men’s
6. Women value productivity and progression in games
7. Women prefer collaboration over competition in gaming
8. Women gamers appreciate real-life inspiration in games
9. Many women gamers prefer games with a non-traditional “game” aesthetic
00:00 Introduction and Audience Insights
00:27 Meet Emily Yum: Gaming Industry Leader
01:02 Emily's Career Journey
03:24 The Concept and Development of Venue
06:26 Growth Strategy and Audience Engagement
13:19 Women in Gaming: Insights and Motivations
20:21 Future Plans and Global Expansion
27:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Jan 21, 2025 • 35min
60% lower cost per trial via web2app?
Can web2app deliver 60% cheaper trials for your subscription-based apps?
And be able to track 20% more?
In this Growth Masterminds, we chat with Gessica Bicego:
- Blinkist
- Paired
- Kayak
- Fractional CMO, growth consultant
Gessica shares her journey from Blinkist to Paired, revealing key insights into the benefits and challenges of transitioning user acquisition efforts from app to web campaigns. We talk about why web-based UA offers better tracking capabilities, how to leverage landing pages to drive app store conversions, and the potential of web onboarding to minimize app store fees.
We also talk about the effectiveness of paid content and specific strategies to attract different user segments.
00:00 Introduction to Web-Based User Acquisition
01:46 Transitioning from App to Web Acquisition
03:01 Success Stories and Strategies
06:04 Challenges and Solutions in Web Campaigns
07:21 Understanding Audience and Metrics
14:05 Optimizing Mini Mobile Web Landing Pages
17:21 The Impact of Familiar Environments
17:44 The Evolution of Landing Pages
18:58 Innovative Paid Content Strategies
19:55 The Challenges and Rewards of Paid Content
24:45 Web Onboarding: A New Trend
31:19 Personalizing Web and App Funnels
34:32 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Jan 14, 2025 • 26min
No more App Store fees
Will 50% of in-app purchase revenue move to owned channels over the next few years?
Stash thinks so.
In this Growth Masterminds, I chat with Justin Kan, co-founder of Twitch, serial entrepreneur and investor, along with Archie Stonehill, who leads product for Stash.
We talk about direct-to-consumer or D2C in mobile gaming, where getting revenue from what used to be in-app purchases over owned channels is resulting in 30% more revenue for top publishers. We also chat about what's driving D2C for all mobile apps, not just games.
00:00 Introduction and Historical Context
00:53 Introducing the Guests
01:24 Stash: Direct Consumer Player Experiences
03:22 Regulatory Changes and Market Impact
03:38 Justin's Perspective on the Gaming Industry
06:41 Financial Benefits of Direct Channels
10:59 Future of the App Economy
16:58 Regulatory Developments and Legal Battles
20:21 Historical Parallels and Future Predictions
25:11 Closing Remarks and Future Updates

Jan 8, 2025 • 36min
Scaling mobile games beyond 1 million players: 6 challenges
How do you scale your mobile game beyond 1 million players?
Anyone can start a game or an app and get a certain amount of growth. But scaling is hard: you need to find more players, sure, but you also need to expand beyond your initial niche.
And you probably have to start paying attention to what your competitors are doing.
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier talks with Sven Jurgens, an independent mobile games consultant, about the challenges and strategies for scaling mobile games beyond 1 million players. Sven shares his journey into growth marketing, the importance of focusing on successful creatives, managing ad partners, handling cash flow, and optimizing monetization. He also discusses the significance of automation, getting smarter with data, and the impact of AI in user-generated content. The conversation concludes with actionable insights on competitor analysis and core marketing strategies.
Tune in for practical advice and expert tips to take your game's growth to the next level.
00:00 Introduction to Growth Masterminds
01:37 Journey into Growth Marketing
03:55 Challenges of Scaling: Creative Strategies
09:20 Ad Partners and Scaling
11:39 Financial Challenges in Scaling
13:52 Monetization and Data Utilization
15:39 Tools and Automation in Scaling
18:23 Automate the Boring Stuff
19:04 Building Small Tools for Efficiency
20:37 Competitor Analysis Strategies
25:04 Getting Smarter About Data
28:53 Winning Strategies and Trends
32:55 Reviving Old School Marketing
35:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dec 26, 2024 • 40min
How AppLovin is fueling the boom in incentivized ad networks
What is going on in the rewarded ad space? Why is it exploding?
Well, in an odd way, it's AppLovin's fault.
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with adtech OG Paul Bowen, Chief Revenue Officer at Stream Elements. They discuss the current state and future of the ad tech industry, focusing on the resurgence of rewarded and incentivized ad spaces, the implications of industry consolidation, and the impacts of AI and data analytics on user acquisition.
Paul shares deep insights from his extensive career at companies like Unity, TapJoy, and Liftoff, providing a comprehensive overview of the key trends shaping ad tech today and looking ahead to 2025. Whether you're a growth marketer or ad tech enthusiast, this episode is packed with valuable information and forward-thinking perspectives.
Link to Paul's list of companies in the rewarded space:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LaVUk8cNHsHNJndKuKyf6Ncpjc05Tc-TR9MmY5q9mkI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
00:00 Introduction to Adtech and Rewarded Ads
01:18 Building a Database of Incentivized Ad Platforms
02:54 The Evolution of Rewarded Ads
07:12 StreamElements: Tools for Twitch Streamers
09:35 The Resurgence of Rewarded Ads
16:14 Challenges and Opportunities in the Gift Card Reward Space
22:02 Expanding User Acquisition Beyond Gaming
22:35 AppLovin's Success in Mobile Ad Tech
27:32 The Role of AI in Mobile Advertising
35:21 Challenges and Innovations in Measurement
38:28 Concluding Thoughts on Ad Tech

Dec 19, 2024 • 24min
How to grow games globally
Is it possible that you’re wasting marketing dollars by only user acquisition where you always have been in the past? Or limiting your potential growth?
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with Tom Shadbolt, Moloco's Senior Marketing Insights Manager, about the untapped opportunities in global markets beyond the big 5 countries which account for 60% of gaming UA spend.
They delve into findings from Moloco's analysis of 4,000 apps and $3 billion in in-app purchase revenue, exploring emerging markets like Brazil, India, and South Africa, and the importance of a diversified marketing strategy.
The conversation highlights the necessity of long-term planning, localization, and the utilization of machine learning to identify high-value users across various regions and genres. Tune in to learn how to optimize your marketing spend and discover new growth potential across the globe.
00:00 Global Growth Opportunities
00:54 Key Insights from the Report
02:56 Top Markets for Gaming UA Spend
05:44 Challenges and Strategies for Global Expansion
10:04 Diverging Strategies for iOS and Android
11:35 Finding the Right Market for Your Game
13:23 Localization and Market Segmentation
14:34 Average Revenue Per User (ARPU) Insights
16:42 Experimentation and Long-Term Strategies
20:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dec 10, 2024 • 36min
How to scale influencer marketing
How do you scale influencer marketing?
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, we chat with influencer marketing expert Yuliya Gorenko from Mishka Agencies. She's scaled influencer marketing programs to 8 figures, has over a decade of experience and has worked with over a thousand creators.
She's also a former PR and marketing specialist with L'Oreal.
Yulia shares her journey from L'Oreal to building influencer programs for various mobile apps.
Listen to learn how to scale influencer marketing to eight figures, hear about the evolution of the space, and and get Yuliya's top tips for verticals including beauty, health, fitness, retail, tech, gaming, and more. This is a must-listen for performance marketers looking to leverage influencer marketing as a strong growth engine.
00:00 Introduction to Influencer Marketing
01:36 The Early Days of Influencer Marketing
05:16 Evolution and Current Trends
09:13 Scaling Influencer Marketing Programs
15:49 Measuring Success in Influencer Marketing
20:03 Final Thoughts on Scaling and Measurement
20:51 The Realities of Influencer Marketing
22:26 Rapid Fire Tips for Key Verticals
22:32 Beauty Industry Insights
24:10 Fitness and Health Strategies
26:55 Tech and Gadgets Recommendations
27:46 Travel and Hospitality Tips
29:53 Gaming Community Building
30:55 Parenting and Family Influencer Ethics
33:04 FinTech and Financial Services Caution
34:22 Entertainment and Media Storytelling
35:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Dec 3, 2024 • 24min
1 must-have to scale your app 100X
If you're going to scale user acquisition, it's pretty hard if not impossible to do it without rock-solid forecasting.
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with Nathan Ceulemans, an exec at Kohort, about forecasting and predictive analytics.
Nathan shares insights from his experience at Leanplum, SensorTower, and Kohort. We discuss how accurate forecasting can enhance scaling efforts for games and apps and talk about the importance of predicting retention and monetization and the challenges of integrating monetization natively.
Real-world examples highlight how forecasting can lead to smarter spending and greater growth, like the success of Candy Crush. Tune in to understand the critical balance between retention and monetization, effective UA strategies, and the potential benefits of advanced forecasting methods.
00:00 Introduction to Growth Masterminds
01:03 The Importance of Forecasting in Scaling Games
01:32 Understanding User Acquisition and Financials
02:24 Forecasting Retention and Monetization
04:15 Challenges in User Acquisition and Scaling
07:31 The Role of Product Teams in Forecasting
13:17 Accuracy in Forecasting with Neural Networks
17:51 The Impact of Accurate Forecasting on Growth
22:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Nov 27, 2024 • 31min
Went viral on TikTok Shop ... sold out in 3 days!
Imagine going viral on TikTok and getting millions of views. Then imagine you have a product attached to those views and you sell out in 3 days.
In this episode of Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with Vivian Chang, the VP of e-commerce at GNC, about retail subscriptions.
We chat about GNC's experimental success on TikTok Shop where a women's Stress Vita Pack went viral and sold out in three days, and Vivian breaks down strategies to succeed in subscription retail, touching upon the significance of pricing promotions, the importance of innovative convenience, and effective marketing techniques such as surround sound marketing.
We also dive into the dynamics of on-platform commerce at platforms like TikTok and Facebook ... should you do this, or should you always try to bring customers straight on to your owned platforms?
Finally, we talk about the balance between online and physical retail channels for consumer brands. Whether you're interested in the nuances of e-commerce or looking for creative ways to enhance customer loyalty, this episode offers invaluable insights.
00:00 Introduction to GNC's Success on TikTok
01:32 Black Friday and Consumer Sentiment
02:22 Understanding Subscription Retail
08:48 Key Growth Levers in Subscription Retail
10:53 The Role of Key Channels in Subscription Retail
15:14 On-Platform Commerce: TikTok and Beyond
23:17 Balancing E-Commerce and Physical Stores
27:23 Final Thoughts and Hidden Keys to Success

Nov 18, 2024 • 46min
Boosting conversions on Roku: Roku's head of ad innovation Peter Hamilton
CTV's growing fast. But where does it fit in your marketing mix?
In this Growth Masterminds, host John Koetsier chats with Peter Hamilton, Head of Ad Innovation at Roku. That talk about the role of Connected TV (CTV) in marketing, its evolution, and the ad experiences on Roku.
They also explore the integration of Shopify, ad measurability, and targeting strategies.
They also chat about new engagement modes on Roku that have vastly boosted conversions over QR codes.
Watch or list to understand how CTV can serve different market verticals, from casual and hardcore gaming to D2C and FinTech. Don’t miss insights on how performance marketers can thrive using CTV.
00:00 Introduction to Growth Masterminds
01:26 The Evolution of CTV Advertising
04:19 Peter's Journey in Tech and Marketing
12:18 Roku's Ad Innovations
23:41 Measurability in Advertising
24:39 Performance Marketing Insights
25:16 The Role of QR Codes and Click-Through Paths
27:50 The Importance of Remote Controls in TV Ads
32:14 Shoppable Ads and Shopify Integration
37:32 Strategies for Different Verticals
43:42 Future of CTV Ads
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