
Marketing Against The Grain
Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
Latest episodes

Jun 9, 2022 • 16min
How Web 3 Will Impact Your Marketing
Web 3 is set to transform marketing in exciting ways. Marketers must innovate to stay competitive, even amid challenges. The noisy landscape of Web 3 demands patients to discover valuable innovations. Tribalism in crypto highlights the need for constructive dialogue and growth from failures. Engaging communication strategies are crucial as cryptocurrencies evolve. Lastly, there's a strong call for marketers to educate themselves about Web 3, ensuring they can navigate this new terrain successfully.

Jun 7, 2022 • 41min
The CMO Show. How to Find One. How to Be One.
This episode dives into the art of hiring marketing leaders, emphasizing the importance of aligning candidates' strengths with business needs. The hosts share insights on effective job descriptions and discuss real postings, providing their takes. They highlight the pivotal role of community in marketing, particularly for startups, and the need for strong collaboration among teams. Additionally, they explore the unique challenges faced by new marketers and the strategies to overcome them, while engaging listeners with humorous anecdotes and valuable takeaways.

Jun 2, 2022 • 38min
How Rationality F’s up your B2B Strategy
Discover how balancing rationality with emotional appeal can revolutionize your B2B strategy. The hosts discuss the pitfalls of playing it safe and the need for transformational messaging. Learn the critical role of product marketing in startups and the importance of clearly defining market categories. They also tackle common mistakes in pitch decks and emphasize the need for a balanced narrative. Plus, dive into the complexities of audience engagement and how different personas react to various marketing approaches!

May 31, 2022 • 21min
Turning a Problem into an Opportunity
In tough economic times, adaptability is key for business survival. The discussion highlights innovative strategies from iconic brands, showcasing how niche targeting can drive growth. A focus on recognizing opportunities during recessions reveals the power of an 'anti-fragile' mindset. Tips on product diversification and maintaining market leadership are shared, alongside a lively contest encouraging entrepreneurial pitches. Ultimately, it’s about turning challenges into strategic advantages.

May 26, 2022 • 15min
Failing Is Key To Succeeding (Plus, News-Jacking and Building Brand Authenticity)
Explore the intriguing world of brand authenticity through the lens of notorious companies, like a certain low-cost airline. Discover why embracing failure is crucial for success, and how it can spark marketing innovation. Learn about the art of newsjacking as a clever strategy to elevate brand awareness, with real examples illuminating the connection between current events and consumer engagement. Dive into the fascinating interplay of data, creativity, and internet culture in shaping modern marketing strategies.

May 24, 2022 • 37min
Leadership Lessons, Needing to Win, and Cards Against Humanity
Join top marketer Hannah Fleishman, a HubSpot veteran with a knack for writing, as she dives into the nuances of leadership. Discover the difference between being a leader and a manager, and the essential skills needed for effective team dynamics. The conversation gets lively with a humorous take on NFTs and a playful round of Cards Against Humanity. Fleishman also shares insights on the mindset of winning, balancing results with enjoyment in leadership, and the importance of continuous learning in the ever-changing marketing landscape.

May 19, 2022 • 39min
Marketing Monopoly
Dive into a playful take on marketing strategies inspired by Monopoly! Discover innovative email and outbound marketing tactics, and learn how NFTs can enhance community building. The hosts share valuable advice on navigating the early stages of a startup and the importance of personal growth in marketing leadership. Tune in for humorous insights on ineffective marketing methods and explore how unconventional strategies can create engaging communities. Plus, participate in a fun game segment that brings these concepts to life!

May 17, 2022 • 33min
Using Social Dynamics to Build Community with Capri Wheaton
Capri Wheaton, the innovative Founder and CEO of Dressd, shares her journey from UC Berkeley dropout to fashion-tech entrepreneur. She discusses leveraging social dynamics to grow community engagement for her peer-to-peer clothing rental business. Capri reveals unscalable tactics that sparked excitement around Dressd and emphasizes nurturing early adopters. The conversation touches on the risks and rewards of choosing an entrepreneurial path over traditional education, and the importance of adaptability in leadership.

May 12, 2022 • 41min
Rethinking your Market with Everette Taylor (CMO of Artsy)
Everette Taylor, Chief Marketing Officer for Artsy and a trailblazer in making art accessible, shares his insights with Kipp and Kieran. He discusses how to reduce barriers for consumers and engage new audiences by recognizing their diverse backgrounds. The conversation highlights the transformative impact of Web3 and NFTs on the art market. Everette also emphasizes collaboration with creators, advocating for understanding their perspectives to foster an authentic creative community while navigating modern marketing challenges.

May 10, 2022 • 44min
Twittersode! How The Ownership Economy is going to change your marketing strategy
Discover the exciting world of the ownership economy and how it’s redefining marketing strategies. The hosts delve into community frameworks and innovative brand experiences that drive consumer loyalty. Learn about the intersection of NFTs and traditional gaming, and how brands are adapting to modern digital ownership. The conversation emphasizes the shift from Web2 to Web3, touching on trust-building and community engagement. Plus, unique insights into personal interactions and effective decision-making in marketing make for an engaging listen!