

True You Podcast
Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut
True You Podcast is all about reconnecting with your authentic self—the version of you that’s in flow, where life feels effortless and aligned. In moments of struggle, when everything feels like an uphill battle, it's a sign you've lost touch with your true self. Through deep conversations and personal insights, we explore what it takes to stay in alignment, create harmony, and live as the true you—most of the time, not just by accident.
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Aug 22, 2025 • 36min
Episode 24: The Internal War and Compulsions
In this episode, Bill shares his journey inspired by Mary O'Malley's book 'The Gift of Our Compulsions,' discussing how compulsions, whether smoking, drinking, or overeating, have impacted his life. Bill explores the concept of Internal Family Systems (IFS), highlighting the importance of becoming friends with the parts of us driven by compulsions. He candidly recounts his battles with smoking, drinking, and overeating, emphasizing the significance of understanding these parts to achieve true, authentic self-recovery. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:13 Discussing 'The Gift of Our Compulsions' by Mary O'Malley00:55 Defining Compulsions and Addictions03:21 Personal Stories of Compulsion03:43 The Struggle to Quit Smoking07:08 The Nature of Compulsions and Internal Conflict09:53 The Impact of Resistance16:03 Long-Term Sobriety and Its Challenges18:23 The Compulsion to Run19:03 Making Friends with Your Inner Conflict19:32 Understanding and Mediating Internal Conflicts24:56 Exploring the Role of the Inner Critic27:07 Connecting with the Inner Critic31:08 Addressing Compulsive Behaviors34:36 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionLinks and Resources:• ‘The Gift of Our Compulsions’ by Mary O'Malley - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1577314700• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 15, 2025 • 42min
Episode 23: Choice and Presence
In this episode, Bill and Marty contrast their coaching approaches and explore the nuances of being present in both personal and professional settings. The discussion meanders through intriguing topics such as the role of unconscious choices, the impact of beliefs and past experiences, and techniques for achieving mindfulness and self-leadership. The episode also touches upon the importance of unblending from suffering parts, responding authentically to life's moments, and the transformational power of choosing presence.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:24 The Concept of Relational Leadership01:13 Spontaneous Podcast Topics03:02 Mastermind Group Insights03:44 Challenges of Presence and Focus07:19 The Struggle with Disempowered Choices08:53 Understanding Self-Leadership14:51 The Process of Making Empowered Choices19:13 Addressing Overwhelm and Mindfulness20:33 Challenging Internal Beliefs22:15 Understanding IFS and Its Impact24:58 The Role of Experience in Changing Beliefs29:35 Navigating Anxiety and Group Dynamics37:43 Meditation and Mindfulness Practices41:04 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com➡️ To learn more about the Internal Family Systems Model, visit https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/about-ifs. ➡️Join the Parts Work Practice Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice📖 Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV➡️Attend IFS Coaching Groups: https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/coaching-groups📞Take the Coaching Readiness Assessment, go to https://billtierneycoaching.com/contact🎙️Listen to Leadership Coaching Podcast at https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/podcast, available on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube!

Aug 8, 2025 • 55min
Episode 22: Jaime Konzelman
In this episode, Bill and Marty welcome Jaime Konzelman, former Chief Revenue Officer and accomplished triathlete. Jaime shares her incredible journey from hiding her past as a dancer to becoming a powerhouse in the corporate world, transforming challenges into opportunities for growth. Listen in for Jamie's unique insights on personal alignment, discovering one's true self, and the importance of living authentically in both personal and professional spheres. About Jaime Konzelman:Today’s guest is Jaime Konzelman — a former Chief Revenue Officer, nationally ranked triathlete, award-winning author, and speaker who has led billion-dollar sales teams and closed nine-figure tech deals… all while keeping a secret that once threatened to unravel everything she built.Jaime started her career in strip clubs — and for years, buried that part of her story under titles, trophies, and tenacity. But now, she uses her voice to help other high-achieving women stop hiding, start healing, and lead from a place of radical truth and power.She’s the author of Dealmaker and the upcoming Rewriting the Rules of the Game: Leading with the Divine Feminine in Business, and the creator of The Messy Middle — a newsletter for anyone navigating identity shifts, leadership transitions, or the question: “Is this really it?”She’s known for her bold storytelling, deep honesty, and the uncanny ability to challenge people to burn down the roles that no longer fit and rise from the ashes — wildly, wholly, and unapologetically themselves.Also, she lives in Las Vegas with four rescue Labradors and a foster pit… which might be the only thing crazier than corporate life.Contact Jaime: Email: jaimek@findingmyfire.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaimekonzelmanFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaime.konzelman.2025LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jkonzelman/Website: http://JaimeKonzelman.comChapters:00:00 Welcome to the True You Podcast01:06 Introducing Jamie Konzelman02:51 Discovering the True You04:18 The Power of Journaling06:34 The Importance of Internal Reflection08:24 The Cost of Self-Sacrifice11:34 Jaime Konzelman's Personal Journey15:58 Action-Based Self-Reflection28:57 The Power of Alignment29:32 Influence of Brooke Castillo and Byron Katie30:51 Physical Manifestations of Misalignment31:57 Corporate Alignment and Personal Growth33:01 Breaking Corporate Norms33:47 Launching Wellness Wednesdays35:55 Embracing Authenticity in Business38:27 Complexity and Passion in Deal Making46:17 Coaching and Mentorship48:30 Concluding Thoughts and Contact InformationLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 1, 2025 • 45min
Episode 21: Clarity About What You Want
In this episode, Bill and Marty discuss the importance of getting clarity on what you truly want in life. They explore why many people struggle with this clarity, often focusing more on what they don't want. Through personal anecdotes and professional experiences, both coaches share valuable techniques for establishing clear objectives, navigating internal obstacles, and using one's internal guidance system to achieve desired outcomes. The conversation also touches on the significance of self-awareness, the role of protective internal parts, and the practical steps to shift focus from negative experiences to positive affirmations. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:54 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching02:44 Challenges in Defining What You Want03:10 Technical Difficulties and Coaching Dynamics04:22 Exploring Client Objectives and Coaching Strategies12:01 Understanding Internal Family Systems18:32 Personal Experiences and Manifestation28:21 Understanding Our Desires and Misconceptions29:14 Personal Journey and Business Insights30:27 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching32:33 Internal Family Systems and Ideal Clients33:16 Navigating Challenges and True Desires34:48 Nonviolent Communication and Self-Reflection37:47 Self-Awareness and Personal Development42:52 The Role of Internal Guidance49:22 Parts Work Practice Conference AnnouncementLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 25, 2025 • 42min
Episode 20: Fear and Anxiety
In this episode, Bill and Marty share personal stories and insights about anxiety, its roots in fear, and how to manage it effectively. Bill recounts his lifelong battle with anxiety and how he found solace and transformation through various methods, including internal family systems and the Byron Katie method. Marty complements the discussion with reflections on his academic and personal experiences with anxiety. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:59 Personal Experiences with Anxiety03:30 Educational Backgrounds and Anxiety08:25 Exploring Anxiety in Different Contexts10:57 The Science and Semiotics of Anxiety21:05 Summarizing Our Progress21:35 Understanding Anxiety23:08 Personal Responsibility and Transformation30:33 Practical Steps to Manage Anxiety31:31 The Importance of Presence38:21 Internal Family Systems and Overcoming Suffering39:41 A Heartwarming Story and ConclusionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 18, 2025 • 30min
Episode 19: Impatience
In this episode, Bill and Marty explore the impact of impatience in our lives and the role of AI in addressing heart-centered coaching. Marty shares a personal story about dealing with roofing contractors that illustrates the challenges of managing impatience and how feelings of respect and powerlessness play into our reactions. The duo also discuss practical strategies for identifying triggers, acknowledging feelings, and setting realistic goals, all while emphasizing the importance of practicing mindfulness and maintaining a reflective mindset. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:13 Discussing the Blog Article 'Impatient'01:03 AI and Heart-Centered Coaching02:18 Real-Life Example of Impatience06:11 Analyzing the Example and Coaching Insights10:40 Identifying Triggers and Acknowledging Feelings20:07 Reflecting on Experiences and Practicing Pausing25:02 Setting Realistic Goals and Final Thoughts27:45 Conclusion and Call to ActionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 11, 2025 • 49min
Episode 18: The Myth of Maintenance
In this episode, Marty and Bill discuss the importance of constant growth and personal development. Bill talks about his past experiences, including his journey of sobriety, and how personal growth has been a pivotal part of his life. They explore the concept of maintaining personal development and the pitfalls of simply trying to maintain without growing. They touch upon the idea of revisiting past successes to reignite growth, the importance of vulnerability, and the role of contentment and courage in personal transformation. They also emphasize the significance of following inner guidance and the necessity of sometimes taking detours to explore new paths. Chapters:00:00 Welcome Back to the True You Podcast00:43 Discussing Books and Influences01:40 Writing a Memoir: A Journey of Self-Discovery02:57 Maintaining Personal Growth and Development05:14 The Importance of Spiritual Life in Personal Growth21:37 The Role of Courage and Contentment in Growth25:29 Resting on Your Laurels: The Danger of Complacency26:00 Finding the Next Challenge: Growth and Transformation26:29 The Role of Friction in Personal Growth27:18 Pursuing New Goals: From Triathlons to Writing29:21 Financial Security and Its Impact on Happiness32:39 The Importance of Trust and Vulnerability34:29 Navigating Life's Detours: Personal Development39:02 The Value of Personal Development and Learning42:50 Aligning with Your Inner Guidance46:05 The Power of Perspective: Overcoming Suffering49:13 Conclusion: Embracing Growth and TruthLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 4, 2025 • 45min
Episode 17: Waking Up
In this episode, Bill and Marty unpack what it means to be Self-led as a person, a business, and even a society. They explore how trauma shapes our inner parts, how self-awareness begins, and why lasting recovery is about healing what's underneath addiction. Bill shares his personal experience with 12-step recovery, the shift that happened through Byron Katie's work, and the journey from doing his best to simply being his best. It's a thoughtful and honest conversation about inner change, leadership, and how real transformation starts within.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:28 Diving into Today's Topic01:08 Visionary Thinkers and Their Influence04:10 Understanding Self-Led vs. Parts-Led09:27 Exploring the Concept of Self19:03 Personal Experiences and Reflections21:13 The Path to a Self-Led Society23:59 Exploring Self-Led Companies24:16 Qualities of a Self-Led Company24:51 Compassion and Capacity in Leadership25:37 Curiosity and Courage in the Workplace26:47 Understanding the Concept of Self29:26 Addiction and Recovery Insights33:23 Personal Journeys to Self-Awareness34:51 The Role of Self-Awareness in Leadership38:03 Divine Guidance and Self-Discovery42:50 Effort vs. Being in Self-Led Lives44:00 Final Thoughts and Wrap-UpLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jun 27, 2025 • 55min
Episode 16: Recovery and Transformation
In this episode, hosts Bill and Marty explore their unique approaches to coaching. Bill shares his experience with Internal Family Systems (IFS) and his Compassionate Results Guidebook, while Marty discusses his ontological leadership coaching. Together, they address how trauma affects everyone and the transformation possible through IFS and other modalities. Bill also reflects on his 42 years of sobriety, discussing the limitations of the 12-step program for him, and the profound impact of discovering Byron Katie's work. The conversation shifts into a discussion on emotional sobriety, the process of transformation, and the power of changing one’s mindset.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Hosts' Background00:26 Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)01:42 The Role of Trauma in Coaching03:46 Personal Experiences with Trauma04:51 Understanding and Defining Trauma05:14 Impact of Childhood Experiences06:16 Coaching Through Trauma07:16 Scientific Approach to Coaching09:30 Historical Context of Trauma12:50 Generational Trauma and Healing14:50 Personal Transformation and Recovery23:38 The Power of Perspective Shift28:02 Effective Methods for Transformation29:49 Struggling with Belief and Recovery31:22 Questioning the 12-Step Program32:36 Defining Personal Recovery33:45 Emotional Sobriety and Personal Growth36:37 Discovering Byron Katie's Work44:36 Finding a New Concept of God52:04 Integrating IFS and 12-Step Programs53:02 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jun 20, 2025 • 49min
Episode 15: Cancel Culture - Beliefs, Fears, and Values
In this episode, Bill and Marty explore the complexities of living authentically in the era of cancel culture and how societal pressures and fears impact our ability to express our true selves. They share personal stories and analyze the historical context of belief systems affecting today's world. The conversation also touches on the potential of higher ideals and the role of vision boards in overcoming limiting beliefs. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:15 Invitation to Join the Conversation01:34 The True You: Living in Accord with Your Nature02:08 The Impact of Cancel Culture16:22 Historical Context and Generational Beliefs18:30 Personal Stories and Reflections24:43 Exploring Cancel Culture Further27:38 Facing Social Media Backlash28:07 Examples of Misunderstanding and Labeling28:47 The Impact of Being Canceled29:27 Darryl Davis and Challenging Beliefs30:59 Fear and Authenticity34:31 Vision Boards and Future Planning36:49 Exploring Beliefs and Values45:40 The Role of Religion and Higher Ideals48:04 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• No Apologies by Katherine Brodsky - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1634312503• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com