

True You Podcast
Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut
True You Podcast is all about reconnecting with your authentic self—the version of you that’s in flow, where life feels effortless and aligned. In moments of struggle, when everything feels like an uphill battle, it's a sign you've lost touch with your true self. Through deep conversations and personal insights, we explore what it takes to stay in alignment, create harmony, and live as the true you—most of the time, not just by accident.
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Aug 8, 2025 • 55min
Episode 22: Jaime Konzelman
In this episode, Bill and Marty welcome Jaime Konzelman, former Chief Revenue Officer and accomplished triathlete. Jaime shares her incredible journey from hiding her past as a dancer to becoming a powerhouse in the corporate world, transforming challenges into opportunities for growth. Listen in for Jamie's unique insights on personal alignment, discovering one's true self, and the importance of living authentically in both personal and professional spheres. About Jaime Konzelman:Today’s guest is Jaime Konzelman — a former Chief Revenue Officer, nationally ranked triathlete, award-winning author, and speaker who has led billion-dollar sales teams and closed nine-figure tech deals… all while keeping a secret that once threatened to unravel everything she built.Jaime started her career in strip clubs — and for years, buried that part of her story under titles, trophies, and tenacity. But now, she uses her voice to help other high-achieving women stop hiding, start healing, and lead from a place of radical truth and power.She’s the author of Dealmaker and the upcoming Rewriting the Rules of the Game: Leading with the Divine Feminine in Business, and the creator of The Messy Middle — a newsletter for anyone navigating identity shifts, leadership transitions, or the question: “Is this really it?”She’s known for her bold storytelling, deep honesty, and the uncanny ability to challenge people to burn down the roles that no longer fit and rise from the ashes — wildly, wholly, and unapologetically themselves.Also, she lives in Las Vegas with four rescue Labradors and a foster pit… which might be the only thing crazier than corporate life.Contact Jaime: Email: jaimek@findingmyfire.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaimekonzelmanFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaime.konzelman.2025LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jkonzelman/Website: http://JaimeKonzelman.comChapters:00:00 Welcome to the True You Podcast01:06 Introducing Jamie Konzelman02:51 Discovering the True You04:18 The Power of Journaling06:34 The Importance of Internal Reflection08:24 The Cost of Self-Sacrifice11:34 Jaime Konzelman's Personal Journey15:58 Action-Based Self-Reflection28:57 The Power of Alignment29:32 Influence of Brooke Castillo and Byron Katie30:51 Physical Manifestations of Misalignment31:57 Corporate Alignment and Personal Growth33:01 Breaking Corporate Norms33:47 Launching Wellness Wednesdays35:55 Embracing Authenticity in Business38:27 Complexity and Passion in Deal Making46:17 Coaching and Mentorship48:30 Concluding Thoughts and Contact InformationLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 1, 2025 • 45min
Episode 21: Clarity About What You Want
In this episode, Bill and Marty discuss the importance of getting clarity on what you truly want in life. They explore why many people struggle with this clarity, often focusing more on what they don't want. Through personal anecdotes and professional experiences, both coaches share valuable techniques for establishing clear objectives, navigating internal obstacles, and using one's internal guidance system to achieve desired outcomes. The conversation also touches on the significance of self-awareness, the role of protective internal parts, and the practical steps to shift focus from negative experiences to positive affirmations. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:54 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching02:44 Challenges in Defining What You Want03:10 Technical Difficulties and Coaching Dynamics04:22 Exploring Client Objectives and Coaching Strategies12:01 Understanding Internal Family Systems18:32 Personal Experiences and Manifestation28:21 Understanding Our Desires and Misconceptions29:14 Personal Journey and Business Insights30:27 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching32:33 Internal Family Systems and Ideal Clients33:16 Navigating Challenges and True Desires34:48 Nonviolent Communication and Self-Reflection37:47 Self-Awareness and Personal Development42:52 The Role of Internal Guidance49:22 Parts Work Practice Conference AnnouncementLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 25, 2025 • 42min
Episode 20: Fear and Anxiety
In this episode, Bill and Marty share personal stories and insights about anxiety, its roots in fear, and how to manage it effectively. Bill recounts his lifelong battle with anxiety and how he found solace and transformation through various methods, including internal family systems and the Byron Katie method. Marty complements the discussion with reflections on his academic and personal experiences with anxiety. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:59 Personal Experiences with Anxiety03:30 Educational Backgrounds and Anxiety08:25 Exploring Anxiety in Different Contexts10:57 The Science and Semiotics of Anxiety21:05 Summarizing Our Progress21:35 Understanding Anxiety23:08 Personal Responsibility and Transformation30:33 Practical Steps to Manage Anxiety31:31 The Importance of Presence38:21 Internal Family Systems and Overcoming Suffering39:41 A Heartwarming Story and ConclusionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 18, 2025 • 30min
Episode 19: Impatience
In this episode, Bill and Marty explore the impact of impatience in our lives and the role of AI in addressing heart-centered coaching. Marty shares a personal story about dealing with roofing contractors that illustrates the challenges of managing impatience and how feelings of respect and powerlessness play into our reactions. The duo also discuss practical strategies for identifying triggers, acknowledging feelings, and setting realistic goals, all while emphasizing the importance of practicing mindfulness and maintaining a reflective mindset. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:13 Discussing the Blog Article 'Impatient'01:03 AI and Heart-Centered Coaching02:18 Real-Life Example of Impatience06:11 Analyzing the Example and Coaching Insights10:40 Identifying Triggers and Acknowledging Feelings20:07 Reflecting on Experiences and Practicing Pausing25:02 Setting Realistic Goals and Final Thoughts27:45 Conclusion and Call to ActionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 11, 2025 • 49min
Episode 18: The Myth of Maintenance
In this episode, Marty and Bill discuss the importance of constant growth and personal development. Bill talks about his past experiences, including his journey of sobriety, and how personal growth has been a pivotal part of his life. They explore the concept of maintaining personal development and the pitfalls of simply trying to maintain without growing. They touch upon the idea of revisiting past successes to reignite growth, the importance of vulnerability, and the role of contentment and courage in personal transformation. They also emphasize the significance of following inner guidance and the necessity of sometimes taking detours to explore new paths. Chapters:00:00 Welcome Back to the True You Podcast00:43 Discussing Books and Influences01:40 Writing a Memoir: A Journey of Self-Discovery02:57 Maintaining Personal Growth and Development05:14 The Importance of Spiritual Life in Personal Growth21:37 The Role of Courage and Contentment in Growth25:29 Resting on Your Laurels: The Danger of Complacency26:00 Finding the Next Challenge: Growth and Transformation26:29 The Role of Friction in Personal Growth27:18 Pursuing New Goals: From Triathlons to Writing29:21 Financial Security and Its Impact on Happiness32:39 The Importance of Trust and Vulnerability34:29 Navigating Life's Detours: Personal Development39:02 The Value of Personal Development and Learning42:50 Aligning with Your Inner Guidance46:05 The Power of Perspective: Overcoming Suffering49:13 Conclusion: Embracing Growth and TruthLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 4, 2025 • 45min
Episode 17: Waking Up
In this episode, Bill and Marty unpack what it means to be Self-led as a person, a business, and even a society. They explore how trauma shapes our inner parts, how self-awareness begins, and why lasting recovery is about healing what's underneath addiction. Bill shares his personal experience with 12-step recovery, the shift that happened through Byron Katie's work, and the journey from doing his best to simply being his best. It's a thoughtful and honest conversation about inner change, leadership, and how real transformation starts within.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:28 Diving into Today's Topic01:08 Visionary Thinkers and Their Influence04:10 Understanding Self-Led vs. Parts-Led09:27 Exploring the Concept of Self19:03 Personal Experiences and Reflections21:13 The Path to a Self-Led Society23:59 Exploring Self-Led Companies24:16 Qualities of a Self-Led Company24:51 Compassion and Capacity in Leadership25:37 Curiosity and Courage in the Workplace26:47 Understanding the Concept of Self29:26 Addiction and Recovery Insights33:23 Personal Journeys to Self-Awareness34:51 The Role of Self-Awareness in Leadership38:03 Divine Guidance and Self-Discovery42:50 Effort vs. Being in Self-Led Lives44:00 Final Thoughts and Wrap-UpLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jun 27, 2025 • 55min
Episode 16: Recovery and Transformation
In this episode, hosts Bill and Marty explore their unique approaches to coaching. Bill shares his experience with Internal Family Systems (IFS) and his Compassionate Results Guidebook, while Marty discusses his ontological leadership coaching. Together, they address how trauma affects everyone and the transformation possible through IFS and other modalities. Bill also reflects on his 42 years of sobriety, discussing the limitations of the 12-step program for him, and the profound impact of discovering Byron Katie's work. The conversation shifts into a discussion on emotional sobriety, the process of transformation, and the power of changing one’s mindset.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Hosts' Background00:26 Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)01:42 The Role of Trauma in Coaching03:46 Personal Experiences with Trauma04:51 Understanding and Defining Trauma05:14 Impact of Childhood Experiences06:16 Coaching Through Trauma07:16 Scientific Approach to Coaching09:30 Historical Context of Trauma12:50 Generational Trauma and Healing14:50 Personal Transformation and Recovery23:38 The Power of Perspective Shift28:02 Effective Methods for Transformation29:49 Struggling with Belief and Recovery31:22 Questioning the 12-Step Program32:36 Defining Personal Recovery33:45 Emotional Sobriety and Personal Growth36:37 Discovering Byron Katie's Work44:36 Finding a New Concept of God52:04 Integrating IFS and 12-Step Programs53:02 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jun 20, 2025 • 49min
Episode 15: Cancel Culture - Beliefs, Fears, and Values
In this episode, Bill and Marty explore the complexities of living authentically in the era of cancel culture and how societal pressures and fears impact our ability to express our true selves. They share personal stories and analyze the historical context of belief systems affecting today's world. The conversation also touches on the potential of higher ideals and the role of vision boards in overcoming limiting beliefs. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:15 Invitation to Join the Conversation01:34 The True You: Living in Accord with Your Nature02:08 The Impact of Cancel Culture16:22 Historical Context and Generational Beliefs18:30 Personal Stories and Reflections24:43 Exploring Cancel Culture Further27:38 Facing Social Media Backlash28:07 Examples of Misunderstanding and Labeling28:47 The Impact of Being Canceled29:27 Darryl Davis and Challenging Beliefs30:59 Fear and Authenticity34:31 Vision Boards and Future Planning36:49 Exploring Beliefs and Values45:40 The Role of Religion and Higher Ideals48:04 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• No Apologies by Katherine Brodsky - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1634312503• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jun 13, 2025 • 54min
Episode 14: Jerry Waxler
In this engaging conversation, Jerry Waxler, a seasoned therapist and memoir writer, shares his transformative journey from addiction recovery to becoming a memoir coach. He discusses how memoir writing can reframe past experiences and enhance self-awareness. The dialogue highlights the therapeutic power of storytelling, connecting it to recovery processes like the 12-step programs and Internal Family Systems therapy. Jerry emphasizes that turning private memories into shared stories not only fosters personal growth but also deepens emotional connections with others.

Jun 6, 2025 • 56min
Episode 13: Pau and Alex
In this episode, Bill and Marty engage in a deep conversation with guests Pau Wojnar and Alex Pedori of IFS Collective. They discuss the nuances of relationships, the importance of communication, and their unique techniques for navigating misunderstandings. Pau shares insights from his work as a trauma-informed coach and his background in ethnography, while Alex discusses his journey from engineering to AI specialization and movement teaching.About Pau:Certified Level 3 IFS Practitioner mixing coaching and trauma workBackground in anthropology/ ethnography research, coaching, non-violent communicationCore personal and professional research areas include Relationships, Sexuality and Psychedelic-Assisted TherapyConsidering going back to school to become a licensed therapist Contact Pau: Website: ifs-collective.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ligressFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/paulinawojnar/About Alex: Alessandro -Alex for shorts and ease- Pedori.He believes that "tell me about yourself and your bio" is the fastest route to emptying your mind, potentially enlightenment.He has been a lead technologist specializing in AI, a movement teacher, organized meditation retreats, taught workshops. He also offers IFS-based sessions, focusing either in life satisfaction, or deeper blockages.He is not sure what to do as a grown up, but this sounds good so far.Contact Alex: Substack: https://substack.com/@alignyourlife/posts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedori GitHub: https://github.com/ischender/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alessandro.pedori___Chapters:00:00 Welcome and Introductions00:29 Meet Pau: Background and Expertise03:29 Meet Alex: Background and Expertise04:22 The Unconference and Initial Connections05:29 The True You: Exploring Relationships07:46 How Alex and Pau Met18:13 Navigating Misunderstandings and Communication23:27 Techniques for Relationship Building28:34 The Importance of Listening in Relationships29:02 Personal Journey: Learning to Communicate30:43 Overcoming Relationship Challenges33:18 Strategies for Managing Conflict43:11 The Role of Self-Energy in Relationships46:25 Introduction to the Unconference52:40 How to Get Involved with the IFS CollectiveLinks and Resources:• IFS-Collective - www.ifs-collective.com• Parts Work: An Illustrated Guide to Your Inner Life by Tom Holmes - https://www.amazon.com/Parts-Work-Illustrated-Guide-Inner/dp/0979889715• Concrescence Institute - https://concrescenceinstitute.com/ • True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com