

True You Podcast
Bill Tierney and Martin Kettelhut
True You Podcast is all about reconnecting with your authentic self—the version of you that’s in flow, where life feels effortless and aligned. In moments of struggle, when everything feels like an uphill battle, it's a sign you've lost touch with your true self. Through deep conversations and personal insights, we explore what it takes to stay in alignment, create harmony, and live as the true you—most of the time, not just by accident.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 56min
Episode 27: Barti Bourgault
In this episode, Bill and Marty welcome Barti Bourgault, an esteemed executive coach and healer, to explore integral aspects of the healing journey. Barti, who holds a PCC credential from the International Coaching Federation, shares her personal path of self-discovery and healing, and discusses the intricate blend of coaching, mindfulness, and IFS (Internal Family Systems) in her practice. Through an engaging dialogue, the trio discusses the natural intelligence of human systems to heal, the importance of internal stillness, and the evolving landscape of the coaching profession.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Episode Setup00:29 Meet the Guest: Barti Bourgault03:19 Understanding Healing Systems05:09 Integrating IFS in Coaching09:58 Barti's Personal Healing Journey17:41 Discovering Your True Self26:28 The Role of IFS in Self-Discovery30:28 Exploring Consciousness and the True Self31:10 The Challenge of Quieting the Mind32:39 The Concept of the True Self in IFS34:31 Healing and Rescuing Parts35:25 Intelligence in Survival Strategies39:03 The Evolution of Consciousness and Systems42:15 The Role of Coaches in Healing43:31 The Wounded Healer and Hero's Journey47:21 Integrating IFS in Coaching51:54 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsLinks and Resources: • True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Sep 5, 2025 • 48min
Episode 26: Michael Gurian
In this episode, join Marty and Bill as they welcome a special guest, Dr. Michael Gurian, a New York Times bestselling author and renowned expert in brain science, gender differences, and child development. They engage in an insightful discussion about the intersections of nature, nurture, and culture, the impact of trauma on self-identity, and the journey of understanding who we truly are. They also reflect on the importance of spiritual practices, mentorship, and the invaluable role of men's groups in personal growth and healing. About Dr. Michael Gurian:Dr. Michael Gurian, marriage and family counselor, is a New York Times bestselling author of 32 books translated into 23 languages. A pioneer in applying brain research to education, parenting, and leadership, he co-founded The Gurian Institute, which trains professionals worldwide. Recognized as a leading gender expert, he has spoken for the UN, briefed Congress, and advised the White House. Known for his dynamic presentations using case studies and brain imaging, Michael helps audiences understand gender differences and effectively support children and adults. His influential books include The Wonder of Boys, The Wonder of Girls, and Boys and Girls Learn Differently!.Contact Michael: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gurianmichaelWebsite: www.gurianinstitute.comChapters:00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:47 Michael Gurian's Background and Achievements02:40 Personal Story: How I Met Michael06:23 Michael's Journey into Brain Research10:25 Understanding Gender Differences in Brain Science14:43 Nature, Nurture, and Culture Debate23:38 Diving into Identity and Self-Discovery24:43 Personal Journey and Trauma28:25 Spirituality and True Self34:33 The Role of Spiritual Guides43:18 Men's Groups and Community Support45:32 Final Thoughts and ResourcesLinks and Resources:• Michael’s website - https://www.michaelgurian.com/• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 29, 2025 • 43min
Episode 25: The Gift of Complaint
In this episode, Bill and Marty focus on the intriguing topic of complaints. Bill introduces the concept as the 'gifted complaint' and explores how addressing our inner complaints through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) can uncover deeper truths and bring about emotional healing. Martin shares a personal experience from his own coaching sessions, and the duo discusses how identifying and understanding these internal conflicts can transform and liberate our true selves. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:33 Exploring the Topic of Complaints01:23 Group Exercise on Complaints03:56 Personal Complaints and Reflections08:28 Understanding Internal Family Systems14:05 Addressing Concerns and Building Trust21:42 Understanding the Complaint22:12 Exploring Parental Regrets22:52 Shifting Perspectives25:10 Connecting with the Past28:20 The Gift of Complaint31:58 Layers of Identity36:59 Embracing Parts with Compassion40:14 Resources for Further Exploration41:44 Final ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• ‘ Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families - adultchildren.org• ‘The Gift of Our Compulsions’ by Mary O'Malley - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1577314700 • True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 22, 2025 • 36min
Episode 24: The Internal War and Compulsions
In this episode, Bill shares his journey inspired by Mary O'Malley's book 'The Gift of Our Compulsions,' discussing how compulsions, whether smoking, drinking, or overeating, have impacted his life. Bill explores the concept of Internal Family Systems (IFS), highlighting the importance of becoming friends with the parts of us driven by compulsions. He candidly recounts his battles with smoking, drinking, and overeating, emphasizing the significance of understanding these parts to achieve true, authentic self-recovery. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:13 Discussing 'The Gift of Our Compulsions' by Mary O'Malley00:55 Defining Compulsions and Addictions03:21 Personal Stories of Compulsion03:43 The Struggle to Quit Smoking07:08 The Nature of Compulsions and Internal Conflict09:53 The Impact of Resistance16:03 Long-Term Sobriety and Its Challenges18:23 The Compulsion to Run19:03 Making Friends with Your Inner Conflict19:32 Understanding and Mediating Internal Conflicts24:56 Exploring the Role of the Inner Critic27:07 Connecting with the Inner Critic31:08 Addressing Compulsive Behaviors34:36 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionLinks and Resources:• ‘The Gift of Our Compulsions’ by Mary O'Malley - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1577314700• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 15, 2025 • 42min
Episode 23: Choice and Presence
In this episode, Bill and Marty contrast their coaching approaches and explore the nuances of being present in both personal and professional settings. The discussion meanders through intriguing topics such as the role of unconscious choices, the impact of beliefs and past experiences, and techniques for achieving mindfulness and self-leadership. The episode also touches upon the importance of unblending from suffering parts, responding authentically to life's moments, and the transformational power of choosing presence.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:24 The Concept of Relational Leadership01:13 Spontaneous Podcast Topics03:02 Mastermind Group Insights03:44 Challenges of Presence and Focus07:19 The Struggle with Disempowered Choices08:53 Understanding Self-Leadership14:51 The Process of Making Empowered Choices19:13 Addressing Overwhelm and Mindfulness20:33 Challenging Internal Beliefs22:15 Understanding IFS and Its Impact24:58 The Role of Experience in Changing Beliefs29:35 Navigating Anxiety and Group Dynamics37:43 Meditation and Mindfulness Practices41:04 Concluding Thoughts and ReflectionsLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• If you would like to be a guest on the True You podcast, please complete this guest application. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdbHITeLbAD98TRhFPZzK2kStuHos5HFjOGBWAaTJjgVcEAGA/viewform• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com➡️ To learn more about the Internal Family Systems Model, visit https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/about-ifs. ➡️Join the Parts Work Practice Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/partsworkpractice📖 Get the Compassionate Results Guidebook here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FHGJYHGV➡️Attend IFS Coaching Groups: https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/coaching-groups📞Take the Coaching Readiness Assessment, go to https://billtierneycoaching.com/contact🎙️Listen to Leadership Coaching Podcast at https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/podcast, available on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube!

Aug 8, 2025 • 55min
Episode 22: Jaime Konzelman
In this episode, Bill and Marty welcome Jaime Konzelman, former Chief Revenue Officer and accomplished triathlete. Jaime shares her incredible journey from hiding her past as a dancer to becoming a powerhouse in the corporate world, transforming challenges into opportunities for growth. Listen in for Jamie's unique insights on personal alignment, discovering one's true self, and the importance of living authentically in both personal and professional spheres. About Jaime Konzelman:Today’s guest is Jaime Konzelman — a former Chief Revenue Officer, nationally ranked triathlete, award-winning author, and speaker who has led billion-dollar sales teams and closed nine-figure tech deals… all while keeping a secret that once threatened to unravel everything she built.Jaime started her career in strip clubs — and for years, buried that part of her story under titles, trophies, and tenacity. But now, she uses her voice to help other high-achieving women stop hiding, start healing, and lead from a place of radical truth and power.She’s the author of Dealmaker and the upcoming Rewriting the Rules of the Game: Leading with the Divine Feminine in Business, and the creator of The Messy Middle — a newsletter for anyone navigating identity shifts, leadership transitions, or the question: “Is this really it?”She’s known for her bold storytelling, deep honesty, and the uncanny ability to challenge people to burn down the roles that no longer fit and rise from the ashes — wildly, wholly, and unapologetically themselves.Also, she lives in Las Vegas with four rescue Labradors and a foster pit… which might be the only thing crazier than corporate life.Contact Jaime: Email: jaimek@findingmyfire.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaimekonzelmanFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaime.konzelman.2025LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jkonzelman/Website: http://JaimeKonzelman.comChapters:00:00 Welcome to the True You Podcast01:06 Introducing Jamie Konzelman02:51 Discovering the True You04:18 The Power of Journaling06:34 The Importance of Internal Reflection08:24 The Cost of Self-Sacrifice11:34 Jaime Konzelman's Personal Journey15:58 Action-Based Self-Reflection28:57 The Power of Alignment29:32 Influence of Brooke Castillo and Byron Katie30:51 Physical Manifestations of Misalignment31:57 Corporate Alignment and Personal Growth33:01 Breaking Corporate Norms33:47 Launching Wellness Wednesdays35:55 Embracing Authenticity in Business38:27 Complexity and Passion in Deal Making46:17 Coaching and Mentorship48:30 Concluding Thoughts and Contact InformationLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Aug 1, 2025 • 45min
Episode 21: Clarity About What You Want
In this episode, Bill and Marty discuss the importance of getting clarity on what you truly want in life. They explore why many people struggle with this clarity, often focusing more on what they don't want. Through personal anecdotes and professional experiences, both coaches share valuable techniques for establishing clear objectives, navigating internal obstacles, and using one's internal guidance system to achieve desired outcomes. The conversation also touches on the significance of self-awareness, the role of protective internal parts, and the practical steps to shift focus from negative experiences to positive affirmations. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:54 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching02:44 Challenges in Defining What You Want03:10 Technical Difficulties and Coaching Dynamics04:22 Exploring Client Objectives and Coaching Strategies12:01 Understanding Internal Family Systems18:32 Personal Experiences and Manifestation28:21 Understanding Our Desires and Misconceptions29:14 Personal Journey and Business Insights30:27 The Importance of Clarity in Coaching32:33 Internal Family Systems and Ideal Clients33:16 Navigating Challenges and True Desires34:48 Nonviolent Communication and Self-Reflection37:47 Self-Awareness and Personal Development42:52 The Role of Internal Guidance49:22 Parts Work Practice Conference AnnouncementLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 25, 2025 • 42min
Episode 20: Fear and Anxiety
In this episode, Bill and Marty share personal stories and insights about anxiety, its roots in fear, and how to manage it effectively. Bill recounts his lifelong battle with anxiety and how he found solace and transformation through various methods, including internal family systems and the Byron Katie method. Marty complements the discussion with reflections on his academic and personal experiences with anxiety. Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the True You Podcast00:59 Personal Experiences with Anxiety03:30 Educational Backgrounds and Anxiety08:25 Exploring Anxiety in Different Contexts10:57 The Science and Semiotics of Anxiety21:05 Summarizing Our Progress21:35 Understanding Anxiety23:08 Personal Responsibility and Transformation30:33 Practical Steps to Manage Anxiety31:31 The Importance of Presence38:21 Internal Family Systems and Overcoming Suffering39:41 A Heartwarming Story and ConclusionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 18, 2025 • 30min
Episode 19: Impatience
In this episode, Bill and Marty explore the impact of impatience in our lives and the role of AI in addressing heart-centered coaching. Marty shares a personal story about dealing with roofing contractors that illustrates the challenges of managing impatience and how feelings of respect and powerlessness play into our reactions. The duo also discuss practical strategies for identifying triggers, acknowledging feelings, and setting realistic goals, all while emphasizing the importance of practicing mindfulness and maintaining a reflective mindset. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction00:13 Discussing the Blog Article 'Impatient'01:03 AI and Heart-Centered Coaching02:18 Real-Life Example of Impatience06:11 Analyzing the Example and Coaching Insights10:40 Identifying Triggers and Acknowledging Feelings20:07 Reflecting on Experiences and Practicing Pausing25:02 Setting Realistic Goals and Final Thoughts27:45 Conclusion and Call to ActionLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com

Jul 11, 2025 • 49min
Episode 18: The Myth of Maintenance
In this episode, Marty and Bill discuss the importance of constant growth and personal development. Bill talks about his past experiences, including his journey of sobriety, and how personal growth has been a pivotal part of his life. They explore the concept of maintaining personal development and the pitfalls of simply trying to maintain without growing. They touch upon the idea of revisiting past successes to reignite growth, the importance of vulnerability, and the role of contentment and courage in personal transformation. They also emphasize the significance of following inner guidance and the necessity of sometimes taking detours to explore new paths. Chapters:00:00 Welcome Back to the True You Podcast00:43 Discussing Books and Influences01:40 Writing a Memoir: A Journey of Self-Discovery02:57 Maintaining Personal Growth and Development05:14 The Importance of Spiritual Life in Personal Growth21:37 The Role of Courage and Contentment in Growth25:29 Resting on Your Laurels: The Danger of Complacency26:00 Finding the Next Challenge: Growth and Transformation26:29 The Role of Friction in Personal Growth27:18 Pursuing New Goals: From Triathlons to Writing29:21 Financial Security and Its Impact on Happiness32:39 The Importance of Trust and Vulnerability34:29 Navigating Life's Detours: Personal Development39:02 The Value of Personal Development and Learning42:50 Aligning with Your Inner Guidance46:05 The Power of Perspective: Overcoming Suffering49:13 Conclusion: Embracing Growth and TruthLinks and Resources:• True You Podcast Facebook Page - https://www.facebook.com/trueyoupodcast• Would you like to be a guest on our podcast? Complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/Fre2eEmiNoDPYKmp9• Internal Family Systems - https://ifs-institute.com/• Bill Tierney Coaching - https://www.billtierneycoaching.com/• ‘Listening is the Key', Dr. Kettelhut’s website - https://www.listeningisthekey.com/• Marty’s new book, ‘Leadership as Relation’ - https://amzn.to/3KKkCZO• Marty’s earlier book, ‘Listen… Till You Disappear’ - https://amzn.to/3XmoiZd• Parts Work Practice - Free IFS Practice Group Sessions - https://www.partsworkpractice.com• Contact Marty - mkettelhut@msn.com• Contact Bill - bill@billtierneycoaching.com