The business world has increasingly begun to recognize the importance of mental health, but we still have a long way to go in openly acknowledging our challenges with it. Writer, entrepreneur, and podcast host Morra Aarons-Mele says that when we take the time and energy to better understand and talk about our own issues, we can actually harness the learnings to become better managers and colleagues. She says that there are a number of ways to stop anxiety from spiraling and instead use it for good. She also has recommendations for organizations trying to enhance the mental health of their workforces. Morra Aarons-Mele is the article "How High Achievers Overcome Their Anxiety" and the book The Anxious Achiever: Turn Your Biggest Fears into Your Leadership Superpower.

Morra Aarons-Mele, a writer and podcaster who identifies as an anxious achiever, explores the complex relationship between anxiety and success. She challenges the stigma around anxiety, arguing it can be a powerful asset for leaders. Morra shares practical strategies to turn anxiety into focus and resilience. She emphasizes self-compassion and understanding neurodiversity in the workplace while encouraging listeners to embrace their inner child. With humor and innovative techniques, she reveals how to navigate anxiety and cultivate joy in everyday life.

Morra Aarons-Mele: The Anxious Achiever Morra Aarons-Mele is the host of The Anxious Achiever, a top-10 management podcast that helps people rethink the relationship between their mental health and their leadership. Morra founded Women Online and The Mission List, an award-winning digital-consulting firm and influencer marketing company dedicated to social change, in 2010 and sold her business in 2021. She helped Hillary Clinton log on for her first internet chat and has launched digital campaigns for President Obama, Malala Yousafzai, the United Nations, the CDC, and many other leading figures and organizations. She is the author of The Anxious Achiever: Turn Your Biggest Fears into Your Leadership Superpower*. In this conversation, Morra and I discuss some key tactics that help leaders release just a bit of control. Since control is often driven by fear, we can let go of some control by making small shifts in our practices, awareness, and planning. We also explore how to set boundaries that will help us lead in ways that are more helpful to others — and ourselves. Key Points Control is often caused by fear. Optimism can be a bit of an antidote to it. Adopt a practice mindset by making small shifts to endure uncomfortable things. Practice open awareness throughs surrender; the opposite of controlling and micromanaging. Get clear on scheduling, deadlines, longer term career goals. Those provide a healthy illusion of control. Create a distinction between having an emotion and being the emotion. Begin setting boundaries by noticing when you are moving from comfort to discomfort. Resources Mentioned The Anxious Achiever: Turn Your Biggest Fears into Your Leadership Superpower* by Morra Aarons-Mele The Anxious Achiever podcast Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes Four Steps to Get Unstuck and Embrace Change, with Susan David (episode 297) Effective Delegation of Authority, with Hassan Osman (episode 413) Align Your Calendar to What Matters, with Nir Eyal (episode 431) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.

Morra Aarons-Mele, an expert in navigating anxiety, hosts Charlene Li, a disruptive leadership author, to discuss the impact of GenAI on work and personal growth. They explore how embracing disruptive change can alleviate workplace anxiety. Li shares practical insights on using AI as a creative partnership that enhances leadership. The conversation dives into self-actualization through AI, emphasizing the importance of emotional intelligence and adopting a growth mindset in this rapidly evolving landscape.

Kit Pang and Morra Aarons-Mele, experts in negotiation and anxiety, delve into managing fear during high-stakes conversations. They discuss how anxiety can be re-framed as a motivating force rather than an obstacle. Listeners learn practical techniques for preparation and self-awareness to combat anxiety. The conversation emphasizes the importance of mental health in negotiations and highlights empathy as a crucial component for successful communication. Personal stories enrich their insights, making the discussion relatable and actionable.