Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

Ep 130 Defining Interdependence

Jan 18, 2023

57:56

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Relational Work Is Not Our Job to Parent One Another

04:48

Isn't That a Bad Thing?

01:29

I Don't Feel Safe With You

03:15

Introduction

2min

Interdependence

3min

How Do I Know if I'm Not Being Too Much?

5min

Love Languages - Is That Your Love Language?

2min

Isn't That a Bad Thing?

1min

Why Do I Need This Person to Normalize?

2min

Love Languages - You Don't Get Me Lunch

2min

Parenting

3min

Relational Work Is Not Our Job to Parent One Another

5min

10.

Is Laundry Done, Are There Dishes in the Sink?

5min

11.

I Don't Feel Safe With You

3min

12.

You Don't Want, You're Not a Child, Right?

4min

13.

I Just Wish This Person Would See Me, What Am I Gonna Do?

3min

14.

Wild Bill, an American Serial Killer in Paradise, Season 3 of Criminal Conduct

4min

15.

Are You Doing Too Much?

4min

16.

Are You Afraid to Exist at a Five?

3min

17.

Is It Even Possible to Live in a Four?

6min

18.

You Know, It's Your Suffering, Right?

2min

In this solo episode, Vanessa and Dené passed a miniature microphone back and forth in the car to record a conversation they were having on the way to their New Year's retreat.

They talked about:

1. How their perspective on interdependence differs from the ways others describe it in several personal development and psychology spaces.

2. How a woman’s experience of safety in a relationship can have a lot to do with the emotional load she is carrying.

3. Why most of us are actually taking on way more in our day-to-day lives than is meant to be sustainable for our nervous systems.

Mental health professionals, we referenced in this episode:

Dr. Ellyn Bader / The Couples Institute

Esther Perel

Dr. Mary Catherine McDonald

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