Ep 130 Defining Interdependence
Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené
Is It Even Possible to Live in a Four?
"I think we have just decided societally that all of us should be, and I would say not a five, I would say higher than a five," she says. "We got to stop saying, this isn't live or we got to start saying excuse me, this isn’t living, we're not going to live this way." She adds: "It's like tap dancing our safety in these partnerships is because we don't need to be all over the place for each other"
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