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Ep 130 Defining Interdependence

Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

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Are You Afraid to Exist at a Five?

LZ Granderson: I've been grasping at attempting to find the two or the three so that I can self-soothe before I get to attend. And what I think I'm realizing is that I'm just existing at a five all the time, and it's actually an impossible feat for me. LZ: When your nervous system becomes so acclimated to existing at a 5, it feels unsafe to exist at a four, three, two, one, zero. "I would say this actually isn't even a woman thing," she says of her own experiences with trauma.

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