

Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené
Gamut Podcast Network
Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than TherapyInstagram: @cheaperthantherapypodcastTikTok: @cheaperthantherapypodYouTube: @cheaperthantherapypodcastConnect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettTikTok: @thecodayodaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631 Connect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganTikTok: @denelogan
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Jul 28, 2025 • 42min
Ep 239: BEST-OF: Men’s “Clarity” After Sex
Our next ‘best of’ episode was episode 192: Men’s “Clarity” After Sex. This conversation cracked open a raw, honest, and often unspoken exploration of modern relationships, intimacy, and how patriarchal conditioning impacts us all—especially around sex.If you've ever wondered why sex sometimes feels more disconnecting than connecting, or you're longing for a deeper conversation about emotional safety, sexual shame, and sacred union—this one will stay with you.Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @denelogan------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jul 21, 2025 • 33min
Ep 238: BEST-OF: What Does My Inner Child Need?
Ep 188: BEST-OF: What Does My Inner Child Need?Our 2nd “best of” is one of our live coaching episodes. We dive into: what codependency and anxious attachment often look in real life—and why they’re so hard to untangle a roadmap for staying with discomfort instead of outsourcing soothing—without shame.Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
Website: vanessabennett.com
TikTok: @itsvanessabennett
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 16min
BEST-OF: How to Trust in Self-Love with Danny Morel
Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. This conversation with Danny Morel was one of our absolute favorites. We sat down with Danny to talk about -reframing love, attachment, partnership and forgiveness. This episode was a profound exploration of what will be required to heal collective wounds between men and women.Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
Website: vanessabennett.com
TikTok: @itsvanessabennett
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Oct 2, 2024 • 48min
Ep 236: Farewell for Now
In this heartfelt final episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we reflect on the last four years, all of our challenges and personal growth, and the significance of our friendship while preparing to close this chapter. While it’s farewell to the podcast for now, it’s not farewell to us. Join our online community to stay in touch with multiple live weekly process groups and workshops, and stay in touch with us for upcoming retreats. What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨How both of our perspectives on so many things have evolved since the podcast’s early days, from the challenges of motherhood to deepening our clinical skills, and how much we’ve used the podcast for processing life experiences✨ An emphasis on how our shared struggles have shaped our friendship and influenced our professional work, and how candidly the topic of motherhood has been approached on Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast since day one✨Gratitude for our friendship and the unique dynamic we’ve built between us, and how supporting each other’s growth has been vital to both the podcast’s success and our personal journeys✨As we prepare to end the podcast, we do so with gratitude and reflect on the importance of honoring life’s cycles, embracing endings as a necessary part of growth🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyOur podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 11min
Ep 235: The Rise of The Feminine with Reverend Michael Beckwith
In our second to last episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we sit down with Reverend Michael Beckwith, founder of the Agape Spiritual Center, the Take Back Your Mind podcast, and bestselling author of “Life Visioning™,” “The Answer is You,” and “Spiritual Liberation.” Reverend Michael shares journey from being a psychobiology major to becoming a spiritual leader and the profound insights he’s gained along the way, particularly about the rise of the feminine energy and spiritual awakening. What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨The global shift toward feminine energy and collective spiritual awakening, and why Reverend Michael believes that this movement is essential for healing the planet and fostering deeper unity among people✨ Reverend Michael’s personal spiritual experiences, including profound mystical events that changed his perception of reality, and how these moments helped him embrace his spiritual gifts and lead others on their own awakening journeys✨The need for living with intention, rather than reacting to circumstances, and how intention acts as a guiding force, helping individuals align with their spiritual purpose in order to navigate life more authentically and meaningfully🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyConnect with Reverend Michael Beckwith:WebsiteInstagramPodcastOur podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Sep 18, 2024 • 47min
Ep 234: Friendships & Goodbyes
Ep 234: Friendships & GoodbyesIn this emotional and reflective episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we discuss the cycles of relationships, touching on our personal friendship dynamics and the upcoming conclusion of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast after an incredible 4 years. What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨ An emphasis on the importance of prioritizing friendships over romantic relationships, which often get placed on a societal pedestal, and how our friendship has thrived because of our commitment to this mindset✨The cyclical nature of relationships, using the metaphor of a spiral to illustrate how old wounds and dynamics resurface, but with each turn of the spiral, they move further from the center, showing growth and healing✨Exploring the concept of respecting where each person is in their development and capacity to engage in relationships, and how recognizing that capacity in one another helps prevent the ego from taking a “one-up” position, allowing for empathy and understanding✨The conclusion of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast after 4 years together, our immense gratitude for this journey, our guests, and you - the amazing community we’ve built together🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyOur podcast is ending but we aren’t leaving! Connect with us in our Cheaper Than Therapy online Community. Weekly process groups and classes with us and our expert guest facilitators on a range of topics, plus one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereInterested in joining Vanessa’s substack? Email Sondra@vanessabennett.com for more informationConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Sep 11, 2024 • 54min
Ep 233: Dating Realism and Emotional Growth with Sabrina Zohar
In this discussion, Sabrina Zohar, a renowned voice in relationship psychology and host of her own podcast, shares her insights on dating and emotional growth. She emphasizes the need for accountability when dealing with emotionally unavailable partners. Sabrina challenges social media dating advice, advocating for deeper self-reflection instead. The conversation also highlights how past traumas shape our dating patterns and the importance of setting high but realistic standards when seeking authentic connections.

Sep 4, 2024 • 27min
Ep 232: Live Coaching Session: Navigating Mental Health and Family Dynamics
In this episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we sit down with Michelle, who is struggling with her husband’s mental health issues and their recent impact on their family dynamics. The conversation explores step-parenting, mental health in relationships, and more.What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨ The difficulties in finding common ground with her husband regarding parenting decisions, especially as her children have grown older✨ What to do when when mental health struggles have created an ongoing sense of unpredictability and fear within the family dynamic✨ Approaching conversations with curiosity and vulnerability, and the possibility that open communication about their fears and past traumas could help alleviate some of the tension in the relationship✨Why it’s important to take accountability in relationships and address your own trauma to recalibrate your own nervous system to better cope with the present, and how by doing the necessary inner work, you can embrace the good surrounding your external🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyRemember, we’re therapists, but we’re not your therapists. These coaching sessions, and other episodes, are meant for entertainment purposes only, and are not meant to replace your therapy practice. If you find value in these conversations, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast wherever you listen to pods. It helps us reach a larger audience looking for soulful insights!Check out our online community, Cheaper Than Therapy the Community. Weekly process groups, live workshops, weekly live workshop series with expert guest facilitators, and one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
TikTok: @denelogan
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Aug 28, 2024 • 1h 2min
Ep 231: Approaching Mental Health with Nuance with Gabriella Ulloa & Meadowlark Monaghan
In this episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we sit down with Gabriella Ulloa and Meadowlark Monaghan, co-hosts of the “Thoughts May Vary” podcast; a podcast about changing our minds, with the common threads of mental health and nuance weaved throughout. We talk about mental health and the value of open, honest conversations & feeing understood in relationships.What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨Normalizing exploring mental health conversations in an approachable and authentic way, without falling into toxic positivity ✨The value of holding space for differing opinions and the need for discussions that allow for change and growth✨Approaching the topics of mental health with compassion and understanding, and the importance of feeling safe to speak openly about difficult subjects without fear of judgment✨The importance of vulnerability in relationships, both romantic and platonic, and why showing up authentically, especially in the messiest parts of life, is crucial for building deep, authentic connections🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyIf you find value in these conversations, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast wherever you listen to pods. It helps us reach a larger audience looking for soulful insights!Connect with Gabriela and MeadowlarkWebsiteThoughts May VaryCheck out our online community, Cheaper Than Therapy the Community. Weekly process groups, live workshops, weekly live workshop series with expert guest facilitators, and one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
TikTok: @denelogan
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Aug 21, 2024 • 38min
Ep 230: Live Coaching Session: A Path to Self-Compassion
In this episode of Cheaper than Therapy the Podcast, we sit down with Sarah, who is grappling with the aftermath of overhearing a negative conversation about herself between her in-laws and parents. What You’ll Gain from this Episode:✨Exploring the motivation behind listening to a recorded conversation and why it’s important to consider the deeper truths that might be present in the feedback✨The challenge of reconciling the desire for space and healing coupled with the pressure from others to resolve the conflict quickly, and why setting boundaries for space to process your emotions is important✨Why personal accountability is important and how our past experiences can influence our behavior✨Sometimes healing can be complicated and relationships have to change, so allowing yourself to feel your emotions fully is important for a sense of clarity, self-awareness, and spiritual growth🎙This podcast is definitely Cheaper than TherapyRemember, we’re therapists, but we’re not your therapists. These coaching sessions, and other episodes, are meant for entertainment purposes only, and are not meant to replace your therapy practice.If you find value in these conversations, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast wherever you listen to pods. It helps us reach a larger audience looking for soulful insights!Check out our online community, Cheaper Than Therapy the Community. Weekly process groups, live workshops, weekly live workshop series with expert guest facilitators, and one-on-one interactions with us and an amazing supportive community! Learn more hereConnect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
TikTok: @thecodayoda
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
TikTok: @denelogan
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