

Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené
Gamut Podcast Network
Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than TherapyInstagram: @cheaperthantherapypodcastTikTok: @cheaperthantherapypodYouTube: @cheaperthantherapypodcastConnect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettTikTok: @thecodayodaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631 Connect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganTikTok: @denelogan
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Sep 15, 2025 • 51min
Ep 246 THE EGO DEATHS ARE INEVITABLE
..the growth that comes from them is optional. In this week’s episode, Vanessa and Dené talk about the extent to which 2025 has felt like - to many - one enormous ego death, what that means, and why this is a crucial aspect of our collective healing process. we talk about:how life is changing pushing us to separate our essence from our adapted survival strategies or what we’ve been calling our personality why it becomes important to honor other people’s process - even if we experience them as bypassing the ‘truth’ of where we believe they should be how we can start to view life’s difficult moments and relationships as an invitation to expand through what might actually be an initiatory cycle or ego death the extent to which we are experiencing an collective ego death as human race ..and so much more! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along on Instagram and YouTube!Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @deneloganAgain, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 8, 2025 • 21min
Ep 245: The Lie We Were Sold: Motherhood, Partnership, and the Cost of Performing
In the first installment of one of our new solo series, Vanessa kicks off with a core theme from her new book The Motherhood Myth: The Lie We Were Sold—the cultural script that says partnership and motherhood should be inherently easy and endlessly fulfilling…and if they aren’t, you must be doing it wrong. Vanessa traces how that story keeps us isolated, ashamed, and over-functioning, and why naming it is the first step to reclaiming a solid sense of Self.We discuss:How a shared season of overstimulation, depletion, and “Who am I anymore?” sparked this bookThe lie itself—and how it feeds codependency, self-abandonment, and the “performing for belonging” loopDominator systems 101: patriarchy, capitalism, and why shame is such an effective control mechanismWhat changes when you build from capital-S Self: less personalization, more ownership, real agencyTwo journal prompts to begin untangling your inherited myths (about “good mother / partner / woman / person”)An invitation to help name this solo mini-series + what’s coming next (“Ego Explosion”)We would love to hear from you:What is the lie you were sold about partnership, motherhood, womanhood—or being a “good” person?How was shame used to keep you performing that role?Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along on Instagram and YouTube!Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @deneloganAgain, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Sep 1, 2025 • 25min
Ep 244 Are People Partying Less?
In this week’s episode, Vanessa gives Dené a recap of her time spent at a bachelorette party over the weekend. We explore some of the trends - and possible factors impacting - why millennials may have a different relationship with alcohol than older generations.We discuss:-Whether studies suggesting that gen Z is consuming less alcohol than millennials are pointing to an awakening of consciousness or feeling more self-conscious about making mistakes.- If the younger generation are being raised with a lower tolerance for discomfort.- What some of the positive outcomes could potentially be from discomfort that parents may be robbing their children of experiencing. ..and so much more! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @deneloganAgain, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aug 25, 2025 • 41min
Ep 243 How Can I Be love?
We sat down to explore some of the challenges that come up living in a culture where we are exposed and reacting to so many people lives, perspectives and ultimately ways of negotiating conflict. We discuss: -the challenges that we’re facing as a culture that struggles to allow for diversity of thought -holding ourselves with compassion even as others may be holding us with judgement -how we honor the unique nature of our Souls blueprint instead of feeling like we are all meant to be the same -what it looks like to take responsibility for being a conduit to the world I want to see instead of pushing against current circumstances ..and so much more! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @deneloganAgain, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aug 18, 2025 • 34min
Ep 242: AI and the Invitation Inward
We’re back and so excited to share with you all some of the conversations we’ve been having offline. This week, we explore some of the current conversations we’ve heard coming up around AI, the tie it will play in how we meet one another relationally, and what the larger invitation may be for all of us in this rapidly changing world. we discuss:the uptick of people replacing a therapeutic relationship with their use of chat GPT how we might see the rise in technology as being a catalyst for cultivating a more intimate relationship with the human capabilities that cannot be outsourced what it will look like to balance the reality that AI is here and something we will have to negotiate a personal relationship with, to continuing to prioritize connecting with other humans..and so much more! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @deneloganAgain, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aug 11, 2025 • 1h 11min
Ep 241: The Deeper Layers with Dads | Cheaper Than Therapy Podcast with Vanessa Bennett and Dene Logan
Cheaper than Therapy is back for season 4!! And we couldn’t be more excited to kick things off with a live recording (and celebration of the launch of Vanessa’s new book, The Motherhood Myth) we did with two of our favorite dads - and friends - Dr. Adi Jaffe and Nicholas Gonzalez. Adi is an addiction & mental health expert, and founder of IGNTD. Nick is an actor, father, and advocate for conscious masculinity. They are also two dads doing the work of taking so much personal responsibility for their growth as men and fathers.We sat down to talk with Adi and Nick about: finding self-compassion and what it looks like to do the conscious work of repairing as a parent how to avoid the trap of parentified dynamics with your partner the often unaddressed desire to feel valued as men and whether or not that equates to ‘needing’ the women in their lives reimagining privilege in a society where we’ve lost track of what it means to support one another in community..and so much more! Connect with Adi: https://www.adijaffe.com/ (Website) Connect with Nick on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/eltexmex/ InstagramWe are so excited to be back! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy.Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @vanessasbennett (https://www.instagram.com/vanessasbennett/) • Website: vanessabennett.com • TikTok: @ (https://www.tiktok.com/@thecodayoda)itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené: • Instagram: @dene.logan (https://www.instagram.com/dene.logan/) • Website: denelogan.com • TikTok: @denelogan (https://www.tiktok.com/@denelogan)Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aug 4, 2025 • 29min
Ep 240: BEST-OF: Q&A: Reciprocal vs Transactional Relationships
Our 4th and final “best of” is an episode where we answered a listener question. Ep: 181 Q&A: Reciprocal vs Transactional RelationshipsThis episode is one of the most honest, relatable, and clarifying conversations we’ve had about how codependency quietly shapes our relationships—and how resentment can be a powerful wake-up call.This one is an invitation to zoom out, take radical ownership, and shift from silently simmering to soulfully relating.Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa: • Instagram: @vanessasbennett (https://www.instagram.com/vanessasbennett/) • Website: vanessabennett.com • TikTok: @ (https://www.tiktok.com/@thecodayoda)itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené: • Instagram: @dene.logan (https://www.instagram.com/dene.logan/) • Website: denelogan.com • TikTok: @denelogan (https://www.tiktok.com/@denelogan)Again, don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode! If you're interested in being one of our live anonymous coaching episodes, you can apply at the link in the show notes.And follow or subscribe to our IG, TT or YouTube.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jul 28, 2025 • 42min
Ep 239: BEST-OF: Men’s “Clarity” After Sex
Our next ‘best of’ episode was episode 192: Men’s “Clarity” After Sex. This conversation cracked open a raw, honest, and often unspoken exploration of modern relationships, intimacy, and how patriarchal conditioning impacts us all—especially around sex.If you've ever wondered why sex sometimes feels more disconnecting than connecting, or you're longing for a deeper conversation about emotional safety, sexual shame, and sacred union—this one will stay with you.Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @denelogan------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jul 21, 2025 • 33min
Ep 238: BEST-OF: What Does My Inner Child Need?
Ep 188: BEST-OF: What Does My Inner Child Need?Our 2nd “best of” is one of our live coaching episodes. We dive into: what codependency and anxious attachment often look in real life—and why they’re so hard to untangle a roadmap for staying with discomfort instead of outsourcing soothing—without shame.Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:
Instagram: @vanessasbennett
Website: vanessabennett.com
TikTok: @itsvanessabennett
Connect with Dené:
Instagram: @dene.logan
Website: denelogan.com
TikTok: @denelogan
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Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 16min
Ep 237 BEST-OF: How to Trust in Self-Love with Danny Morel
Over the next 4 weeks, we’re re-airing some of our favorite episodes to gear you all up for what’s to come. This conversation with Danny Morel was one of our absolute favorites. We sat down with Danny to talk about -reframing love, attachment, partnership and forgiveness. This episode was a profound exploration of what will be required to heal collective wounds between men and women.Don’t forget to follow and subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also follow along with the show on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube! And look out for all new episodes of Cheaper than Therapy on August 11! Connect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettWebsite: vanessabennett.comTikTok: @itsvanessabennettConnect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganWebsite: denelogan.comTikTok: @denelogan------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.