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#360 - Andy Weiner - President @ RockStep Capital - Investing in Shopping Malls in Secondary / Tertiary Markets at 15-25% Cap Rates

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Jul 23, 2024
Andy Weiner, President of RockStep Capital, shares his mall thesis and deals in small-town America. He discusses deal killers, capitalizing deals, zombie malls, and battling Amazon. Also, alternative ways to monetize mall assets and implementing a successful company culture via Rocksteps are explored.
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ANECDOTE

Weiner's Retail Background

  • Andy Weiner grew up in the retail business, managing 159 Wiener's stores.
  • The chain's high-low pricing and poor inventory management led to its closure.
INSIGHT

Retail Pricing Strategies

  • High-low pricing, like Kohl's, involves marking up prices then promoting sales, while everyday low pricing (EDLP), like Walmart, maintains fixed prices.
  • Off-price retailers like TJ Maxx strategically use discounted name brands to attract customers and sell other merchandise.
ANECDOTE

Small-Town America

  • Weiner's early work with Tractor Supply in small towns exposed him to the benefits of secondary and tertiary markets.
  • His first shopping center deal in Vicksburg, Mississippi, involved local investors and a community bank, a model he continues to use.
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