
The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast
Supercharge your learning and enhance your practice with this Internal Medicine Podcast featuring board certified Internists as they interview the experts to bring you clinical pearls, practice-changing knowledge, and bad puns. Doctors Matthew Watto, Paul Williams, and friends (a national network of students, residents, and clinician-educators) deliver a little knowledge food for your brain hole. Yummy! No boring lectures here, just high-value content and a healthy dose of humor. Fantastic for Internal Medicine, Family Medicine, Primary Care, and Hospital Medicine.
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Dec 7, 2021 • 3min
Curbsiders TEACH is Coming Soon!
Curbsiders Teach is THE internal medicine podcast for all things medical education. We use expert interviews to inspire the next generation of medical educators by providing listeners with teaching pearls, practice-changing knowledge, and a learning objective-based dosing of Edutainment (medical education, made entertaining).
This weekly mini-series will air every Tuesday starting December 14th, 2021 on our website or wherever you get your podcasts!
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We are so excited to bring you this new series in the Curbsiders Family focusing on medical education. Molly Heublein, MD and Era Kryzhanovskaya, MD are your new hosts for the Curbsiders Teach- they are Clinician Educators with a passion for teaching.
Whether you precept students, teach small groups, are involved in curricular design, or give CME lectures, we think you’ll find valuable skills. We have the pleasure of interviewing a variety of amazing experts in topics ranging from bedside teaching, feedback conversations, learner mental health, and time-based competencies in medical education. We can’t wait to share their expertise with you!
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Dec 6, 2021 • 42min
#309 Prediabetes & Type 2 Diabetes Screening: A USPSTF Quick Update
Sweeten your day with a review of the updated 2021 USPSTF Prediabetes and Type 2 Diabetes screening guidelines with expert guest Dr. Chien-Wen Tseng! We review the new screening recommendations, assess different testing modalities, talk through screening intervals, and emphasize other risk factors that impact screening!
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Credits
Written and Produced by: Paul Williams MD & Elena Gibson MD
Cover Art: Beth Garbitelli
Hosts: Paul Williams MD, FACP; Elena Gibson MD
Reviewer: USPSTF Team
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Chien-Wen Tseng MD
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
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Time Stamps*
*Note: Time Stamps refer to ad free version.
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio: 0:33
Guest one-liner: 3:30
Picks of the Week: Sneaky pick at 3:00! Guest pick: 4:45
Case from Kashlak of Mr. Sugar: 5:30
Screening recommendations: 6:00
Testing modalities: 10:00
Possible harms of screening: 15:50
Screening intervals: 18:00
Prediabetes screening: 20:45
Other risk factors that impact screening: 26:30
Recap: 34:15
Outro: 36:25

Nov 29, 2021 • 1h 9min
#308 Metabolic Alkalosis and Hypokalemia: Kidney Boy Returns!
@Kidney_Boy returns to school us on metabolic alkalosis and hypokalemia! What do diuretics, hyperaldosteronism, black licorice, and milk-alkali have in common? Our Chief of Nephrology, Dr. Joel Topf, talks through the pathophysiology of metabolic alkalosis, the utility of urine chloride and pH measurements, why normal saline is sometimes better than balanced solutions, when to reach for acetazolamide, and more! Urine for a good time ; )
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Credits
Written and Produced by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Show Notes, CME, Infographic and Cover Art by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP, Beth Garbitelli
Reviewer: Emi Okamoto MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Joel Topf MD
Sponsor: ACP
Join the American College of Physicians today! U.S. based post-training physicians can take advantage of a limited-time 20% membership discount. Visit acponline.org/ACPdiscount and use the code ACP20. Membership discount is available only through December 31, 2021.
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
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Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner, Picks of the Week*
Case from Kashlak; Definitions
Case of Al Kaline - metabolic alkalosis from vomiting
Pathophysiology of metabolic alkalosis
Case of Mike Arbonate - hypokalemic, metabolic alkalosis from aggressive IV diuresis and therapies to mitigate
Case of Fracture Franny - milk-alkali syndrome
Case of Hyper Al - metabolic alkalosis from excess mineralocorticoid receptor activation
Outro

Nov 24, 2021 • 52min
#307 Spooky Tofurkey Cakes: SGLT2 for HFpEF, Diverticulitis, VTE update, Rotator Cuff Disease
Fill up your plate with some spooky tofurkey cakes! Drs. Rahul Ganatra (@rbganatra) and Nora Taranto (@norataranto) help catch us up recent practice-changing articles and guidelines including EMPEROR-Reduced (SGLT2 inhibitors for HFpEF), the 2021 CHEST VTE guidelines update, whether or not antibiotics are needed for diverticulitis, and what treatments are most effective for rotator cuff disease!
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Credits
Written by: Nora Taranto MD; Rahul Ganatra MD, MPH; Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Show Notes: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Cover Art: Beth Garbitelli
Hosts: Nora Taranto MD; Rahul Ganatra MD, MPH; Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
Reviewer: Rahul Ganatra MD, MPH
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
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Sponsor: BetterHelp
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer,
Picks of the Week
EMPEROR-Reduced (SGLT2 inhibitors for HFpEF)
GRASP trial for rotator cuff disease (physiotherapy and steroid injections)
DINAMO trial (no antibiotics for outpatients with uncomplicated diverticulitis)
2021 CHEST VTE Guidelines Update
Outro

Nov 22, 2021 • 1h 19min
#306 Bronchiectasis and NTM: You can’t get enough sputum!
Take a deep breath and inhale high-yield knowledge molecules about the perplexing conditions known as bronchiectasis and NTM (nontuberculous mycobacteria)! Learn the pitfalls and pearls of diagnosis and management from one of the world’s experts, the great Dr. PJ McShane from UT Health - East Texas!
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Credits
Writers/Producers: Cyrus Askin MD; Leah Witt MD
Infographic & Cover Art: Kate Grant MBChb, MRCGP
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Cyrus Askin MD
Reviewer: PJ McShane MD
Editor: Leah Witt MD (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: PJ McShane MD
Sponsor: Ten Thousand.
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Sponsor: The American College of Physicians
Join the American College of Physicians today! U.S. based post-training physicians can take advantage of a limited-time 20% membership discount. Visit acponline.org/ACPdiscount and use the code ACP20. Membership discount is available only through December 31, 2021.
CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest introduction and recommendations
Case from Kashlak - Part I: The Basics
What is bronchiectasis, how do we define it?
Symptoms and history
Why does it matter?
What should you ask, how do you work this up?
A brief discussion on antibiotics
Case from Kashlak - Part II: Getting into the ManagementAirway Clearance
Case from Kashlak - Part III: The Sputum (Plot) Thickens
What is a bronchiectasis exacerbation?
Pitfall and pearls regarding exacerbation management
Case from Kashlak - Part IV: The Sputum (Plot) Thickens Even Further!
Non-tuberculous Mycobacterial Infections - the basics
Triple Drug Therapy for MAC
The new kid on the block: Liposomal Inhaled Amikacin for refractory MAC
Summary and take home points from Dr. McShane
Outro

Nov 15, 2021 • 1h 2min
#305 OB for the Internist: What to Expect
What to expect when you’re taking care of a patient who’s expecting! This fantastic episode will help you work through preconception counseling with ease, assess and treat non-obstetrical acute concerns in pregnant patients, and help you conceptualize best practices for postpartum care. We are joined by expert guest Dr. Xiaolei Chen.
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Credits
Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Beth Garbitelli
Show Notes by: Shelagh Browne
Cover Art and Infographic: Edison Jyang
Reviewer: Molly Heublein MD
Editor: Matthew Watto MD (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Xiaolei Chen MD
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Sponsor: Provider Solutions & Development
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
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Show Segments
Intro
Picks of the week
Preconception counseling
Lifestyle: caffeine, alcohol, exercise
Preconception medications
Management of acute complaints during pregnancy
Go-to medications for acute complaints during pregnancy
Chronic diseases during pregnancy
Postpartum management
Breastfeeding recommendations
Take-home points
Outro

Nov 8, 2021 • 49min
#304 COVID Updates: The Outpatient Edition
Who gets a COVID booster? Can we mix and match COVID vaccines? What are monoclonal antibodies and when should we use them? What is molnupiravir and does it work? Shots for kids? Ready yourself to answer these questions and more with our guest, Dr. Monica Gandhi @MonicaGandhi9.
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Credits
Producer and Writer: Isabel Valdez PA, Molly Heublein MD
Infographic: Edison Jyang
Cover Art: Edison Jyang, Isabel Valdez, PA
Hosts: Molly Heublein MD, Chris Chui MD, Isabel Valdez PA
Reviewer: Emi Okamoto MD
Editor: Matthew Watto MD (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Monica Gandhi MD
Sponsor: The American College of Physicians
Join the American College of Physicians today! U.S. based post-training physicians can take advantage of a limited-time 20% membership discount. Visit acponline.org/ACPdiscount and use the code ACP20. Membership discount is available only through December 31, 2021.
Sponsor: Provider Solutions & Development
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner, Picks of the Week*
Case from Kashlak
Covid Boosters
Pfizer data
Moderna Data
DNA vaccines
Pediatric Vaccines
Monoclonal Antibodies
Molnupiravir
Dr Gandhi’s crystal ball
Outro

Nov 1, 2021 • 50min
#303 Women in Medicine: Wellness & Workarounds
Explore burnout and gender-based differences in well-being with our esteemed guests Drs. Clif Knight, Tammy Lin, and Kim Templeton. We discuss workarounds for leading our way to wellness.
Dr. Clif Knight is a family physician and Senior Vice President for Education at the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) with extensive leadership and expertise in well-being.
Dr. Tammy Lin is an internal medicine specialist and a Voluntary Assistant Clinical Professor at the University of California, San Diego Health Sciences. We originally met her as a member of the Wellness through Equity and Leadership (WEL) Program and she started a podcast called "The DEI Shift" (pronounced The "Day" Shift), which focuses on diversity, equity, and inclusion within the medical field. Dr. Knight and Dr. Lin participated in the 2019-2020 WEL program-- six different specialty organizations came together to think about the core tenets of equity, well-being and leadership and how you really can’t have one without the other.
Dr. Kim Templeton is Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Kansas Medical Center in Kansas City. Her research focuses on women physicians and the inclusion of sex and gender medicine in medical education.
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Credits
Written and Produced by: Leah Witt, MD and Shreya Trivedi, MD
Infographic: Leah Witt, MD
Cover Art: Kate Grant MBChB MRCGP DipGUMed
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Leah Witt, MD, Shreya Trivedi, MD
Editor: Matthew Watto MD (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Clif Knight, MD, Tammy Lin, MD, Kim Templeton, MD
Sponsor: Grammarly
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Sponsor: The American College of Physicians
Join the American College of Physicians today! U.S. based post-training physicians can take advantage of a limited-time 20% membership discount. Visit acponline.org/ACPdiscount and use the code ACP20. Membership discount is available only through December 31, 2021.
Sponsor: Panacea Financial
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Sponsor: Provider Solutions & Development
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit. See info sheet for further directions. Note: A free VCU Health CloudCME account is required in order to seek credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bios
Burnout & Wellness
The Case: Dr. Elizabeth Blackwell & her friend in primary care
The Part-Time Discussion
Outro

6 snips
Oct 27, 2021 • 36min
#302 LFTs Triple Distilled
Fine-tune your approach to liver tests! It’s LFTs Triple Distilled! Paul and Matt channel the wisdom of hepatologist, Dr. Elliot Tapper (@ebtapper) to cover hepatocellular vs cholestatic vs mixed patterns, which tests to order, which ones to skip, how to handle isolated alkaline phosphatase elevation, mild, chronic ALT elevation, and even how to interpret liver test abnormalities in pregnancy.
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Credits
Written, Produced, and Hosted by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
Infographic by: Elena Gibson
Cover Art: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Matthew Watto MD, FACP (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Sponsor: Birch by Helix
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Sponsor: Locumstory
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Hepatocellular pattern
Cholestatic pattern
Chronic ALT elevation
Isolated Alkaline phosphatase elevation
Liver test abnormalities in pregnancy
Outro

Oct 25, 2021 • 1h 15min
#301 LIVE! Top Pearls 2021: A Rapid Fire Review of Systems
Join us for this rapid fire review of systems featuring our top pearls and articles LIVE! from the TriService ACP conference. Matt and Paul serve up their favorite practice changing knowledge food on antibiotics, MRSA, hair loss, dementia, seizures, diabetes, medications for hypertension, foods for constipation, diverticulitis, colon cancer screening, colon polyps, chronic sinusitis, chronic cough, treatment of uterine bleeding, and more!
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Credits
Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
Cover Art: Sawyer Watto
Editor: Matthew Watto MD (written materials); Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Sponsor: BetterHelp
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Sponsor: ACP’s National Internal Medicine Day
Help the American College of Physicians celebrate National Internal Medicine Day on October 28th. Visit https://www.acponline.org/NIMD2021 to learn how you can show your internal medicine pride. Be sure to tag @ACPInternists and use the hashtag #NationalInternalMedicineDay.
CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer
ID: Shorter is better; MRSA swabs; Antibiotics for diverticulitis
Endo: Prediabetes in older adults,
MSK: Knee OA, orthopedic surgery
Derm: Alopecia
Neuro: Seizures, dementia quick typing
Cardio: Coffee and arrhythmias; Hypertension management, ACEi vs ARBs
Respiratory: Chronic cough and sinusitis
GI: CRC screening, foods for constipation
GU: treatment of uterine bleeding
Addiction Medicine: smoking cessation, buprenorphine
Outro