
The Curbsiders Internal Medicine Podcast
Supercharge your learning and enhance your practice with this Internal Medicine Podcast featuring board certified Internists as they interview the experts to bring you clinical pearls, practice-changing knowledge, and bad puns. Doctors Matthew Watto, Paul Williams, and friends (a national network of students, residents, and clinician-educators) deliver a little knowledge food for your brain hole. Yummy! No boring lectures here, just high-value content and a healthy dose of humor. Fantastic for Internal Medicine, Family Medicine, Primary Care, and Hospital Medicine.
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Jan 26, 2022 • 46min
#318 LUTS, BPH, and Urinary Incontinence Triple Distilled
Master urinary tract symptoms! Paul and Matt recap, review, and update past episodes on BPH and urinary incontinence so you’ll be able to confidently manage lower urinary tract symptoms (LUTS) in primary care. Topics: categorizing urinary incontinence, lifestyle modifications for LUTS, nonpharmacologic & pharmacologic therapies for urinary incontinence and BPH, plus when to refer to surgery.
Note: There is no CME for this mini-episode, but visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org to claim credit for most Curbsiders shows!
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Credits
Written, Produced, and Hosted by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
Infographic by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Cover Art: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Sponsor: M3 Global Research
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Sponsor: Indeed
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. There is no CME for this mini-episode, but visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org to claim credit for most Curbsiders shows!
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Urinary incontinence diagnosis, management
BPH diagnosis, management
Outro

14 snips
Jan 24, 2022 • 1h 14min
#317 Erectile Dysfunction for Primary Care
Listen as our expert guest Dr. Ashley Winter @AshleyGWinter (Northwest Kaiser Permanente, Portland, OR) helps us explore the spectrum of erectile dysfunction management for the internist and primary care clinician. This episode will empower you to provide evidence based, patient-centered care to erectile dysfunction while maintaining an astute and holistic diagnostic approach. We also explore treatment and patient counseling techniques.
Claim Free CE credit for this episode through VCU Health CE at http://curbsiders.vcuhealth.org/
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Credits
Written and Produced by: Hannah R. Abrams, MD
Infographic and Cover Art: Kate Grant, MBChB MRCGP DipGUMed
Show Notes: Hannah R. Abrams, MD; Avital O’Glasser MD, FACP, SFHM
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Hannah R. Abrams, MD
Reviewer: Molly Heublein, MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Ashley Winter, MD
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit. See info sheet for further directions. Note: A free VCU Health CloudCME account is required in order to seek credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner
Defining ED
Additional history, exam, and labs
How to talk about ED
Addressing ED for transgender and nonbinary patients
Treatment of ED
Advanced therapies and referral
Take Home Points; Outro; Bonus clip

Jan 17, 2022 • 1h 7min
#316 Lower Extremity Edema with The Curbsiders
We have seen our esteemed guests, and they are us! Paul Williams (@PaulNWilliamz) leads the discussion with Matt Watto (@DoctorWatto) and Beth “Garbs” Garbitelli (@bethgarbitelli) on the evaluation and management of common causes of edema.
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Credits
Written and produced by: Paul Williams, MD, FACP
Infographic and Cover Art: Matthew Watto, MD, FACP
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Beth Garbitelli
Reviewer: Emi Okamoto, MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto, MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
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Sponsor: ACP
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit. See info sheet for further directions. Note: A free VCU Health CloudCME account is required in order to seek credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer
Picks of the Week*
The case of Lynn Fedema
Pathophysiology of edema
Differential diagnosis of chronic edema
Chronic edema work-up
Management of chronic edema
Calvin Fedema and acute edema
Evaluation of acute edema
Outro

Jan 10, 2022 • 1h 15min
#315 Long COVID
Explore the actively evolving clinical landscape of Long COVID as we discuss epidemiology, pathogenesis, manifestations, and patient-centered management options including the role of a dedicated Long COVID clinic.
Listen as our expert guest Dr. Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez @MVGutierrezMD (Long School of Medicine at UT Health, San Antonio) helps us navigate this rapidly emerging syndrome. This episode will empower you to provide evidence based, patient-centered care for this challenging facet of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. We explore the manifestations including fatigue, dyspnea, psychiatric symptoms, and other neurologic effects. We also examine the emergence of dedicated Long COVID clinics and the imperative of interdisciplinary care.
Update: The original version of this episode contained a brief, but incorrect characterization of mast cell disorders that was subsequently removed after feedback from our allergy/immunology colleagues. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank our colleagues for their peer review.
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Credits
Written and Produced by: Avital O’Glasser MD, FACP, SFHM
Infographic: Edison Jyang
Cover Art: Kate Grant, MBChB MRCGP DipGUMed
Show Notes: Avital O’Glasser MD, FACP, SFHM
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Avital O’Glasser MD, FACP, SFHM
Reviewer: Hannah Abrams, MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez, MD
Sponsor: Blueland
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Sponsor: ACP
Join us in Chicago for internal medicine’s premier educational meeting April 28-30, 2022! We’ll be there in person. For the Early Bird discount, register before January 31. Use code IM22CURB. Visit annualmeeting.acponline.org to learn more.
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Sponsor: Indeed
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit. See info sheet for further directions. Note: A free VCU Health CloudCME account is required in order to seek credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner
Case 1 from Kashlak
Definition of Long COVID or post-COVID symptoms
Pathogenesis of Long COVID
Illness script for mast cell activation
Epidemiology and risk factors for Long COVID
Interdisciplinary care for Long COVID
Illness script for POTS-like phenotype in Long COVID
Illness script for chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis in Long COVID
Management of fatigue and post-exertional malaise (PEM)
Case 2 from Kashlak
Neuropsychiatric manifestations of Long COVID
Anosmia and smell training
Role of the patient voice and community in Long COVID
Disability assessments and management
Take Home Points; Outro; Bonus clip

Jan 3, 2022 • 1h 10min
#314 Constipation: When the Flow Won’t Go with Dr. Iris Wang
Move smoothly through constipation evaluation and management. Learn how to evaluate for the various etiologies of constipation including pelvic floor dysfunction, IBS-C and more with our esteemed guest Dr. Xiao Jing (Iris) Wang @IrisWangMD!
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Credits
Producer, Show Notes, Infographic & Cover Art: Elena Gibson MD
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP
Reviewer: Emi Okamoto MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Xiao Jing (Iris) Wang MD
Sponsor: ACP
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments (Note: timestamps are without ads)
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner, Picks of the Week* (6:00)
Case from Kashlak; Definitions (11:00)
Physiology of a bowel movement (10:00)
Definitions (16:00)
Bowel Habit Review of Systems (17:00)
Rectal Exam (33:00)
Initial Constipation Evaluation
Common categories of constipation (43:40)
Additional evaluation of Constipation (52:00)
Treatment options (1:10:00)
Outro

Dec 30, 2021 • 58min
#313 Recap Extravaganza 2021
We recap the top pearls from 2021, including celiac disease, kidney stones, SGLT2 inhibitors for weight loss & HFpEF, smoking cessation, buprenorphine for acute pain, metabolic alkalosis, nephrotic syndrome, bronchiectasis, obesity hypoventilation syndrome, acute diarrhea, osteoporosis, and diabetes. Plus, Paul and Watto express their gratitude to The Curbsiders family and look forward to 2022. Finally, it’s our annual recap extravaganza 2021 with guest host Chris “the Chiu Man” Chiu (@cjchiu), providing a rapid review of previous Curbsiders episodes for your spaced learning.
Special thanks to the whole Curbsiders team and our listeners for an incredible six years of podcasting!
Note: There is no CME for this mini-episode, but visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org to claim credit for past episodes.
Click here for full show notes
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Credits
Written, Produced, and Hosted by: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP; Christopher Chiu MD, FACP FAAP
Cover Art: Beth Garbitelli
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro
Garbs’ picks: Pelvic pain, smoking cessation
Addiction medicine pearls: Nicotine use disorder; Acute pain in OUD
Nephrology: Kidney stones, nephrotic syndrome, metabolic alkalosis
Cardiology: Peripheral arterial disease (PAD), SGLT2 inhibitors for HFpEF
Pulmonology: Bronchiectasis, OHS
Gastroenterology: Celiac disease, Liver test abnormalities
Bariatric Medicine: Semaglutide for weight loss; bariatric surgery
Endocrinology: Osteoporosis; Diabetes FAQ
Outro

Dec 27, 2021 • 1h 22min
#312 Infective Endocarditis
Master endocarditis! Don’t feel thwarted by a positive set of blood cultures. We’re joined by Dr. David Serota (@serotavirus) for a comprehensive discussion of the pathophysiology of infective endocarditis, frameworks for work-up and diagnosis, the TTE vs. TEE debate, indications for valve surgery, antibiotic tips, harm reduction strategies, and more!
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Credits
Writer and Producer: Adam Barelski MD
Show Notes: Beth Garbitelli; Adam Barelski MD
Infographic: Adam Barelski MD
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP, Adam Barelski MD
Reviewer: Meredith Trubitt, MD
Executive Producer, Cover Art: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: David Serota MD
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner, Picks of the Week*
Case from Kashlak; Definitions
What to do with positive blood cultures
Initial workup for endocarditis
How to diagnose endocarditis
When to get a TTE and a TEE
Indications for valve surgery
Antibiotic tips
Oral vs IV antibiotics
Treatment considerations for patients who inject drugs
Take-home points
Outro

Dec 20, 2021 • 1h 5min
#311 Chronic Pelvic Pain
Pelvic pain is not just a gyn issue! As a PCP, you can feel confident doing an initial workup and starting treatment for pelvic pain. Dr. Lamvu shares a great framework to narrow down your diagnosis and provides amazing resources for those who work in an under-resourced center. We’ll walk you through what to focus on in the history, a trauma-informed physical exam, and the first-line treatments. Feel confident with your ability to help your chronic pelvic pain patients.
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Credits
Writers/Producer: Molly Heublein, MD
Infographic: Edison Jyang
Cover Art: Kate Grant, MBChB MRCGP DipGUMed
Hosts: Beth Garbitelli, Molly Heublein, MD
Reviewer: Emi Okamoto, MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Georgine Lamvu, MD MPH
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest introduction and recommendations
Picks of the Week
Case from Kashlak
Persistent Pelvic Pain Definitions
Differential diagnosis/organ system approach
History
Physical Exam
Trauma informed Care
First line Treatments
Resources for patient education and to build speciality team
Summary and take home points
Outro

Dec 16, 2021 • 1h 26min
Optimize your Feedback Conversations (TEACH ep. 1)
Listen in as expert Dr Calvin Chou (UCSF) leads us through concrete tips to optimize your feedback dialogue with learners. We cover the importance of creating a relationship built on mutual goals of getting to our personal best, helping learners form SMART goals, the ARTful approach to a feedback conversation, ways to minimize bias, and you even get to hear Era role play!
This brand new weekly Curbsiders' mini-series, TEACH, is available on its own feed (Apple, Spotify) with new episodes every Tuesday.
Claim free CME for this episode at curbsiders.vcuhealth.org!
Credits
Infographic: Andrew Delaat
Hosts, producers, writers: Era Kryzhanovskaya, MD; Molly Heublein, MD
Audio Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Calvin Chou, MD
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments:
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner
Picks of the Week
Case from Kashlak
Definition of Feedback
Creating a relationship to give feedback
Helping learners set goals
ARTful approach
Giving feedback on hearsay
Reducing bias
Accepting feedback up the hierarchy
Outro

Dec 13, 2021 • 1h 2min
#310 No Tension About Inpatient Hypertension
Don’t sweat inpatient hypertension any longer. Who needs guidelines when Dr. Noble Maleque (@nobility75, Emory University, Division of Hospital Medicine) explains the spectrum of hypertensive disorders in the inpatient setting, and an approach for thinking about treatment.
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Credits
Production, Script, Infographic, and Cover Art: Monee Amin, MD, Meredith Trubitt, MD MPH
Hosts: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP, Monee Amin, MD, Meredith Trubitt, MD MPH
Reviewer: Adam Barelski MD
Executive Producer: Beth Garbitelli
Showrunner: Matthew Watto MD, FACP
Editor: Clair Morgan of nodderly.com
Guest: Noble Maleque MD
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Sponsor: Locumstory
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CME Partner: VCU Health CE
The Curbsiders are partnering with VCU Health Continuing Education to offer FREE continuing education credits for physicians and other healthcare professionals. Visit curbsiders.vcuhealth.org and search for this episode to claim credit.
Show Segments
Intro, disclaimer, guest bio
Guest one-liner, Picks of the Week*
Definitions
Case from Kashlak
Elevated blood pressure / hypertensive urgency
Contributing factors to elevated blood pressure in the hospital
Hypertensive urgency—to treat or not to treat
Transitions of care and case against intensification of treatment
Case from Kashlak
Hypertensive emergency diagnosis and treatment
Secondary Hypertension
Outro